Always liked the brand, any one any experience on these?
Yep. Built up a czar 1.1 last summer after my old flux cracked.
If you've ever ridden a dw link bike, it behaves in a relatively similar manner. Of course, being the 29er it's super fast. It eggs me on to ride faster and faster. I wish I could as fast as it deserves.
Interestingly, it isn't actually that light, but it's not noticeable out on the trails.
any more?
I don't have one, but Ben Thomas will be on one for this season:
http://marathonmtb.com/2016/01/26/turner-bikes-sponsor-mountain-trax-vauxhall-cycling-team/
Not a personal experience of it, but FWIW a buddy of mine has one, and absolutely loves it.
Hope that helps!
Me, the Gf and a mate own one.
We're in our third year with them 8000 miles on mine. Best bike I've ever owned. Fast and comfortable.
I've had plenty of Turners and this is the best (also own a Flux 27.5). We had some minor issues with the bushes but this was sorted with a new set. The new Czar is on bearings which I've yet to hear anyone talk about in comparison to the Czar 1.0 but I imagine in the grand scheme of things not a huge difference more a refinement.
A lot of folk have gone for 120mm fork and I don't get that at all - it flies with a 100mm as it was designed for.
Any more questions?
I've had plenty of Turners and this is the best (also own a Flux 27.5).
How does it compare to the Flux 27.5 ?
If your looking to buy from the USA I have a cracked turner that you could use for a trade in for "not very much" money.
The Flux 27.5 is still surprisingly light, so rides okay for XC too.
I prefer the feel of the Czar as it's just so much sharper; wheres the Flux feels more a bit more leaden. There a few factors so it makes it difficult to nail it down why. But I built my Flux fairly light but equally I've ridden it in the Alps etc.
The Flux is the bike I take to the Peak; ride mainly in the winter and generally put on my roof rack. The Flux is a long bike on the top-tube so feels bigger.
The Flux feels more of an out-going model - you can't help but enjoy the benefits of the Carbon Czar but then do you want to give it the same stick in the hills. However for the Kielder 101 - the Czar was the right choice.
I do hear of people "knarling" the Czar up which is great but I don't think that was it's original purpose.
Thanks Guy's, thinking about treating myself!!!!!!
I have one for 4 months now its awesome one of the best bikes i have owned, climbs well really comfortable. Goes downhill really well i an running 100mm Sid fantastic my fork is a 120 with the airshaft changed to run 100 never feel i need more travel at 100mm. 26lb with a dropper.
Always wanted one.
On paper I'm between a Large and an XL. Would like the seat tube/height of the L but would prefer the length of the XL.
Because of this I got a Spearfish which I love, still tempted to upgrade my Flux to Czar but probably a bit too similar to the 'fish and likely only 1/2lb lighter.
Not a whole lot lighter than a 'fish but the DW-link over split pivot I would say a bit better. Maybe not enough to change.
With the VTT length - yeah - appears to come up short but once you get your seat pin at the correct height comes up longer due to the lean-back of the seat tube - longer than my Intense Hard Eddie which ironically shows a longer top tube according to the spec.
I had a medium Spearfish but ride a large Czar.
Spearfish was a great bike Czar much better downhill and i find more grip on loose stuff.
Really liked the fish.
Interesting - wondering whether to scout around for a 27.5 Flux frame now they are finished to replace my 26 as I don't really want a carbon bike and a Burner is too much of a bike for me.
Then the Flux 27.5 sounds ideal for you.
*hijack*
Have been mulling over selling my large frame Czar. Ideally as a complete bike (SID RCT3, AC race wheels, XX1, XTR etc)
email in profile if you're interested. The Czar love-in on this thread has me realising I should probably try to keep it though 🙄
too late to edit my post above... email apparently not in profile, but it's stephenroundhill AT hotmail DOTco DOTuk
Why you thinking of selling?
Lots of reasons...am racing less, am thinking selling all my mtbs (not giving up, just rationalising what I have), might get a lightweight hardtail and heavier trail bike, not sure really.
I have 3 bikes the other two have just stood since i built the Czar , i have a Alpine 160 and a Thumper , Czar is just quicker on the trails i ride, it pops of the ground easy seamlessly flows cant say enough good things. Only time i had to slow up was on a really rock section of trail i hit it as if i was on my 160 bike it ploughed through but let me know it was an xc bike. I dont race its my trail bike.
Interesting - wondering whether to scout around for a 27.5 Flux frame now they are finished to replace my 26 [b]5 Spot[/b] as I don't really want a carbon bike and a Burner is too much of a bike for me
Same here, they just seem like rocking horse $h1t
What size Flux would you gents both be looking for?
We have an XL in stock but I could see if we have anything ex-demo/show that might be suitable.
I know we have a couple of Burners up for sale at the moment ....
http://www.silverfish-uk.com/Category/14029/Clearance
I think it would be large for me. I had a medium 26 flux and changed to a large with shorter stem and wider bars. Being 5ft 10 I was right obj the edge of the size chart change between medium and large.
TurnerGuy, I'd definitely go large if I were you. I'm the same height and the medium would be too cramped. I use a large with a 80mm stem...could go to a 60 no problem. But on a medium I'd need 110mm plus 😯
*edit* - sorry just realised you were talking about the Flux.
*edit* - sorry just realised you were talking about the Flux.
never mind I will remember that if I end up going for a Czar..
small for me Richie
Well I said I was going to treat myself, first ride at the weekend and absolutely loved it, 24lbs rides really fast great climber and a lot more than 100mm on the descents!!!
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Love that!
Max
Cheers Max, think I might have to change my forum name!!!!
Ps max I see your after a sync, I have a medium one based in Hudds, if your near to throw ur leg over to try?
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Ahh,
Looks nice.
Think I am gonna need a large at 6'2"
I am boarderline so need to sit on one.
I am also eyeing up the Stanton ti Sherpa as they do an XL.
Thanks for the offer though!
Max
How's the Sync ride anyhow?
Much give in those ti tubes?
Max
Max
The sync and the turner are 2 bikes I have been searching for for a long time!
The sync feels stiff but flexible and forgiving, just feels so right, this will be staying in my garage for a long long time, I have tried a lot of bikes over the last 10 years but the sync will still be here in 10 years looking forward !!!
Hope this helps!!