Forum search & shortcuts

True Bike Porn (IMO...
 

[Closed] True Bike Porn (IMO):Indy Fab,Moots,Eriksen,Seven,DeKerf,Strong, Potts etc

 hock
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

and the bike from next door that could win a beauty contest any time

[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 10:05 pm
Posts: 17783
Full Member
 

cheap chinese copies, just like them bikes of yours
Mine are all copies of cheap chinese copies. 😀


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 10:07 pm
Posts: 214
Free Member
 

Hock how long is that stem on the specialneeds ?

Mine are all copies of cheap chinese copies

i'm jealous now 😥


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 10:10 pm
 hock
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

voluptuous 50s bike pin-up

[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 10:16 pm
 hock
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Hock how long is that stem on the specialneeds ?

too long for my back nowadays... 😐


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 10:18 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

there is something quite lovely about that white stumpjumper.

(ignoring the stem obviously)

do we mean 'porn'? - or do we mean 'beautiful'?

porn is something you wouldn't show your mother.

beauty is audrey hepburn.

(i've been drinking chimay - i may not be making much sense)


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 10:24 pm
Posts: 1196
Free Member
 

mines one of them fake indy fabs 🙂


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 10:25 pm
 hock
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

(this) Serotta = pron
the Stumpi = beautiful (despite the dodgy stem)


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 10:33 pm
Posts: 214
Free Member
 

mines one of them fake indy fabs

I think theyre all fakes


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 10:34 pm
Posts: 1073
Full Member
Topic starter
 

So what's bike pron then? Being delicious? Over the top expensive? Exclusive? Rare? Exotic?
Probably craftsmanship, attention to detail, ingenuity and aestethics play a role.
Unattainability even? And yes, nice pictures help to appreciate it.

For me bike porn is exclusive, rare, exotic, superior craftsmanship and basically everything you have mentioned there except OTT expensive. Reason being that you can buy a custom steel hardtail from any of the manufacturers mentioned in this thread quite easily for what you would pay for a good full sus bike now. i tend to ride hardtails most of the time and keep the full sus for the trail centres so hardtails do it for me. A lot of people on here would think nothing of dropping £3k on an off the peg full sus bike and i'm sure you can buy a custom hardtail for that.


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 10:41 pm
Posts: 6767
Full Member
 

OP pic 3, I just had a "welding" moment....


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 10:54 pm
Posts: 27
Free Member
 

so, I've always wanted an Indy Fab Deluxe, but doubt I'll ever buy one.
where do you get the fakes? how do they differ?


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 11:05 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Anyone with an EWR OWB! There's niche for you!


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 11:07 pm
Posts: 17783
Full Member
 


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 11:08 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Sofaking imports the fakes, email him for more details


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 11:10 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Seeing as we're allowing custom fillet brazed British steel, here's a '94 Dave Yates Swamp Donki. One of his Donkis Nobs with longer top tube and custom mounts for the old Hope mechanically actuated disks. 2x8 gearing and short cage mech another future prediction.

[url= http://farm1.staticflickr.com/27/48330337_4c81f49967.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm1.staticflickr.com/27/48330337_4c81f49967.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickw3216/48330337/ ]Right[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/nickw3216/ ]nick3216[/url], on Flickr

These days I mainly ride this

[url= http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3449/5711351228_9d3e8d7458.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3449/5711351228_9d3e8d7458.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickw3216/5711351228/ ]It just works[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/nickw3216/ ]nick3216[/url], on Flickr


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 7:28 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Obviously what floats a persons boat is totally subjective, but these bikes strike me as being akin to a jag e-type replica in a world of ferrari 458s and 911 turbos.

More Lotus 7s in a world of Monster trucks. Many of these bikes are the result of years of riding, and while they may not be as flash and expensive as an off the peg full susser built up with bling parts the "performance advantage" of which you speak depends on the use to which you're putting them. And some of the riders don't need skill compensating travel and wide bars and stannah shorelift trails to get their kicks.

porn doesn't all have to be all brash Jemma Jameson in perspex heels.


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 7:40 am
Posts: 24444
Full Member
 

I'd like to give Sofaking's Phil Wood 29er a good spanking


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 8:00 am
 grum
Posts: 4531
Free Member
 

Can't seem to post images on my iPad but I would have thought stuff like this is more bike porn than ordinary pictures of ordinary looking bikes that cost extraordinary amounts of money.

http://www.thefancy.com/things/283752327/Titan-Luxe-Track-Stem
http://www.thefancy.com/things/245430033/Montante-Maserati-8CTF
http://www.thefancy.com/things/283771253/Fast-Boy-Cycles-Custom-Bicycle


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 9:41 am
Posts: 6359
Full Member
 

when i saw that serotta t max,a little bit of wee came out 😳 😀


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 9:51 am
Posts: 41395
Free Member
 

nick3216 -
short cage mech another future prediction.

We were running road mechs in 1988.


And some of the riders don't need skill compensating travel and wide bars and stannah shorelift trails to get their kicks.

Ha ha...need to justify your choice? Steve Peat needs skill compensation then?


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 9:58 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Ha ha...need to justify your choice? Steve Peat needs skill compensation then?

Ha, your inferiority complex is showing.

At least I have the skills and confidence to make that choice. I don't have to justify it to myself never mind Internet keyboard warriors. And indeed, sometimes I do ride wide bars and longer travel. My world is not black and white.

Steve Peat uses those things to enhance his already not inconsiderable skill. I remember him riding and beating people in a narrow barred Kona hardtail though. What a fatuous non-sequitur you raise.


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 1:32 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Wow that black sheep stuff looks gopping!


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 1:41 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

At least I have the skills and confidence to make that choice.

Good job cos that hunter thing is bloody hideous. Looks like a wolfhound having a shit. Did you get those wheels for free? 😀


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 1:48 pm
Posts: 71
Free Member
 

Hmmm, I just don't get it.

Bikes can be nice looking, or ugly. The name that is written on the downtube and how nice they look are not related IMO. So then it's just brand snobbery. You can talk about the time invested and what not, but an off the shelf (top end) FS bike has had far more man hours put into it's design than virtually any custom made hardtail.

For me bike porn is exclusive, rare, exotic, superior craftsmanship

Something like a Scott Scale 899 fits that bill. Does that count? Or does it not have a cool enough name on the downtube? If a Stumpjumper counts (which fitted none of the criteria when new) will the 899 count in 15 years? What changes in that time? It gets a bit older.

It all seems a bit "I'm going to swoon over this because I feel I should".


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 1:51 pm
Posts: 10341
Free Member
 

What's the point in having a fake IF?
It's not like a gucci handbag - surely the point in ownership is the craft and people that crafted it, not the stickers!

Anyway - here's mine. Still haven't taken new photos nearly 8 years on...

[img] [/img]

Shame about the brake mounts on the forks, but hey


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 1:55 pm
Posts: 1073
Full Member
Topic starter
 

Hmmm, I just don't get it.

clearly. its as much about all of the above mentioned factors and having a bike made for you specifically as opposed to a general off the peg bike. Seems we're gettting away from the original topic here though. plenty of people saying they dont get it and these bikes look ordinary. Go look at something else then.

How many times have you heard about angles being tweeked year after year. A custom builder will do that for you first time around and its 9 times out of ten perfect.


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 1:57 pm
Posts: 71
Free Member
 

Aah, I see, so people are posting things that aren't cool enough to be in your 'club', which is skewing it.

I didn't say they looked ordinary, I said that it seems slightly odd that people are getting all excited about something because of what it says on the downtube. If all the bikes in this thread were totally unbranded how many of them would be of interest?

How many times have you heard about angles being tweeked year after year. A custom builder will do that for you first time around and its 9 times out of ten perfect.

But there is no panacea, it's not a case of 'getting it right' - or there would only be one bike design. A custom builder can design to your spec, and IME all the custom bikes I've seen look pretty awful, generally with 2ft of head tube or sommat, so presumably owners feel they have to pursue that avenue as they're too freaky to ride off the shelf.

Or... custom builders feel they have to do things radically different to the off the shelf manufacturers as you'd be a bit peeved if you went to a custom builder and got a Specialized replica at 5x the cost.


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 2:02 pm
 grum
Posts: 4531
Free Member
 

Seems we're gettting away from the original topic here though. plenty of people saying they dont get it and these bikes look ordinary. Go look at something else then.

The thread title is bike porn, people are disagreeing with your definition. Very defensive aren't we. You basically admit in the OP that i's not about how the bike looks it's about the name on it.

So then it's just brand snobbery.

Basically. If people feel good about having a 'special' bike then why not I suppose - I just wish they would be a bit more honest with themselves about the reasoning behind it.


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

lol getting head angles tweaked, frame builders building what you want etc.

People don't know what they want, they know what they like.

A lot of people were set in a mind set with old school geometry a few years ago and would have happily carried on with steep head angles etc, except the industry including the likes of Brant etc tried new things and everyone is now benefiting from their ideas and test bikes.

So its typically that someone wants something unique, but that rides no different from your average Taiwanese frame.


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 214
Free Member
 

Sofaking imports the fakes, email him for more details

i am too busy now and handed over my import franchise to the tollah. ring him or email him and he will sort you out

What's the point in having a fake IF?

it almost rides like a real one, or so ive heard 😕
well the few ive owned do anyway.


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 5:18 pm
Posts: 1196
Free Member
 

I thought my IF was real until the flaws were pointed out to me


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 5:25 pm
Posts: 214
Free Member
 

yeah they are not easy to spot from the real thing


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 5:27 pm
Posts: 251
Full Member
 

[i]Shame about the brake mounts on the forks, but hey [/i]

never mind the brake mounts what about your lawn!


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 5:28 pm
Posts: 214
Free Member
 

Anyway - here's mine. Still haven't taken new photos nearly 8 years on...

are you sure thats real ?


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 5:40 pm
Posts: 10341
Free Member
 

🙂


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 5:44 pm
Posts: 17783
Full Member
 

If people feel good about having a '[s]special[/s]' bike then why not I suppose

This ^^^.

I have a garage full of bikes some mainstream some not.
Why should I not spend the same amount on a custom hardtail as i do on a more mainstream full suss.

None of them cost much anyway as they're all fakes. 😆


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 5:50 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Anybody own a Moots? Always been interested as to how they ride


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 5:58 pm
Posts: 2449
Full Member
 

I really really want one of these...

but I might wait for the Surly Big Fat Ugly Ogre, a 29er with 4.7" fat tyres will be almost a 36er...


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 6:02 pm
Posts: 1073
Full Member
Topic starter
 

trying not to be defensive but when you start a thread requesting something in particular and then people start going off on tangents and dragging me with them then it gets to be a bit of a pain. yes this is STW and yes everyone is entitled to their opinion but i just wanted to see some nice bikes that i like and not have to try and justify them which is what i feel like i am having to do. maybe i have been wrong about some of my comments about custom built bikes but again everyone is piping in and saying they are ordinary bikes this and blah that. if you're not really that into custom built bikes then why are you reading this thread and making comments. Also no i'm not just into bikes with names on them. i just bought a Diamondback Axis frame from 1996 for £30 for gods sake so i think that rules out that argument plus ive had a few Marin hardtails as well which probably wouldnt look cool to the STW massive as well as you guys are all into your Orange 5s, Cotics, Lapierre and blah blah, blah blah

now can someone please tell me about these fake Indy Fabs so i dont end up with one someday? or are you just pulling my leg

thanks you


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 6:12 pm
Posts: 17783
Full Member
 

now can someone please tell me about these fake Indy Fabs

Email tollah and he'll give you the details.


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 6:15 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

if you're not really that into custom built bikes then why are you reading this thread and making comments

This thread isn't about custom bikes.


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 6:17 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Yes please ^


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 6:36 pm
Posts: 1073
Full Member
Topic starter
 

This thread isn't about custom bikes.

i beg to differ as it is mostly about custom bikes as if you read the thread title, WHICH I STARTED! then you will see these are all custom built bike manufacturers.

well done the STW crew has sucessfully put me off my own thread. congrats you ****ts!


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 7:47 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

[url= http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4006/4548874546_e319c2e63d.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4006/4548874546_e319c2e63d.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickw3216/4548874546/ ]FBOTY[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/nickw3216/ ]nick3216[/url], on Flickr

Not custom. Skill compensating (or enhancing?) suspension that worked even Back In The Day. Porn? you decide.


 
Posted : 26/01/2012 8:01 pm
Page 2 / 5