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Down at the local jump spot last week and i caught a pro dog walker putting logs,sticks and small fallen trees across the trails.
Not just a few,i mean a serious effort..all the way from top to bottom.
I challenged him and said he could cause serious damage to riders.
His response was, ' that he'd put wire across before but this had resulted in a kids mouth being split '..almost proud of it.Now he just uses sticks (nice man) and if anybody gets hurt it's their fault as they shouldn't be riding.
I know hes been caught before by another rider,at that time he was stopped manually- digging out the landings of jumps.This in the past resulted in serious injury.There has also been barbed wire and even knife blades put into the bike trails.
We have tried to hide out and film him but either he doesn't appear or he catches people sitting out,infact the last lad to try catch him was told ' you need a ripa doc and its illegal to spy,film him '. He got very cross and denied any wrong doing.
How do we go about getting this guy warned,stopped etc ? The land is private and the owner actually rides the jumps or her husband does.So there isn't an issue with the legality of riders,although the bike trails do cross a BW.
Any ideas ????
if he's been seen by independent people more than once then talk to the police.
Based on the above have you approached your local Police and expressed this? I imagine this would be of great interest to them. At the very least this bloke is at risk/a breach of the peace etc imminent.
What an imbecile.
Get a couple of mates to corroborate your story, then tell the cops he keeps getting his c0ck out at you while you ride. Simples.
Follow him home. The next time you see him; recite his full address. Say nothing more, make no threats.
then tell the cops he keeps getting his c0ck out at you while you ride
Class. Serve him right though.
If he's a professional dog walker then he'll probably have a business name or something to trace him by, so definitely report to the police.
Any ideas ????
Shove one of the logs up his arse?
Own with bombers, pee in shoes?
Belittle his choice of dog breed?
Kill him and use him as the foundation for another jump.
Google: how to tie a person to a tree without rope
Belittle his choice of dog breed?
have you no mercy..!!?
Just kick him in.
You don't need video evidence to go to the Rozzers.
Any of the above really, that is one of my pet (no pun intended) hates. They could really hurt someone.
Can you report it to the landowner - what he is doing is effectively vandalising their property.
I guess that they might have some liability if someone was injured? - in their interest to tell this guy to keep off their property.
If a kid had his mouth split by a wire over a trail the police would have a record. Go have a chat with them
No one is going to give you permission to install CCTV in the woods, but we were told it was OK to take photographs if we saw stick activity in progress.
But if you use a trail camera to photograph local wildlife who knows what you'll see.
And chat to dog walkers - they know each other and will be as hacked off as the mtbers - we found sticks were often being cleared by dog walkers! This can give you a clue to names etc.
Then dump an envelope of photos through the local police station door, and wait. Make sure you mention reckless conduct in the covering note.
In a local case the stick laying stopped and a report was sent to the PF(and I bet the sticklayer got the row of his life from his wife when the polis rocked up at his door).
Approach the land owner for the authority to remove him from the private land.
****man has a right of way to use the bridleway but thats all.
You can always follow the man back to his car or home and then call the police. What good that will do and the appetite from plod to pursue this individual is unknown.
The alternative would be violence but given your nature of posting for a solution it seems you would prefer to avoid this?
Alternatively, a group of friends turning up on pushbikes at say 7am on a sunday and ringing his doorbell and face him down and ask him why he feels its neccessary to act lke this. Legal and you have marked his card suggesting any further injuries will be reported to the police...
moustache 😯
freakish googling coincidence led me to bencooper of this'ere parish alter-ego, "Mr Boombastic"
http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/47513-Trespass-Law
and based on what he's put there Id suggest stick man is displaying indications of "Aggravated Trespass"
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/33/section/68
which would be a criminal rather than a civil offence.
A person commits the offence of aggravated trespass if he trespasses on land [F1in the open air] and, in relation to any lawful activity which persons are engaging in or are about to engage in on that or adjoining land [F2in the open air] , does there anything which is intended by him to have the effect—(a)of intimidating those persons or any of them so as to deter them or any of them from engaging in that activity,
(b)of obstructing that activity, or
(c)of disrupting that activity.
A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months or a fine not exceeding level 4 on the standard scale, or both.
Aye,i think we could hook up a few riders and dog walkers to 'relay follow' the idiot back home.Its down at Adel woods if anybody knows it.
Check out Adelwoodz facebook and scroll down a bit,he's made it on to that so far.I think one lad has reported it to police.
Nowt done so far...i guess it takes death these days.
Any riders who use the spot note; the idiot usually goes down around lunch time 12pm-12.30 ish......iiiiiidiiiooot.
wrecker - Member
Follow him home. The next time you see him; recite his full address. Say nothing more, make no threats.
Like this one
After you follow him home, leave sticks and barbed wire in front of his front door.
And kick his dogs.
OP states the landowner rides the trails and it's private land. Seems to be the answer right there. Vandalism and endangering life/property through a deliberate act. I would have though it's akin to threatening behavior and the thin blue line would happily pay a visit for a quiet word rather than for manslaughter.
His response was, ' that he'd put wire across before but this had resulted in a kids mouth being split
I would like to say based on this, hospitalize him in self defense.
Going to the police is a more sensible option though.
What's the business name he uses? Have you seen his van?
clutch fluid the word stickman on his motor
Punch him in the throat
When we used to deal with poachers undoing the sump bolt enough for it to rattle loose...
OP states the landowner rides the trails and it's private land.
OP, go and speak to the landowner about this ASAP. If the actual landowner goes to the police about this, action will be taken.
I like the one about him getting his cock out to you..
Better still he did it in front of your little girl/boy who is now traumatised and can't speak...
Or quietly threaten him that, that could happen to him if he persists, in the nicest possible way of course...
Wee on his dog.
Can't believe you didn't **** him. I'd have lost my shit.
As has been posted, calmly and politely make him fully aware you know of his business name, his home address and when he is around. Do it in such a way that he cannot try and say that you threatened him, that way you are merely telling him something.
Blatantly film and photograph him, while telling him (get this on camera) that you will send this to your local paper. If by any luck you have a local rag owned by Northcliffe Media (with a "thisis...." site), they LOVE this kind of content as it helps them serve up more ads for their SEO and CPM ad campaigns so they like a good controversial story.
Just politely ask him not to continue doing it. Violence or aggression in any given situation is not permitted in singletrack world.
Firstly. RE: the local jump spot. Is it public or private land? If you shouldn't be there, you undermine your own credibility somewhat.
Secondly. Regardless of whether you should or shouldnt be where you are, stringing up wires is a pretty dangerous practice and I suspect the police would take a dim view of such things.
Dont get into a confrontation with him, take a picture of him and get in touch with the police. Let them deal with it.
Surely deliberately setting traps with the sole pupose of causing harm (or even death) to others is very, very illegal and in the great scheme of things in a whole other league to riding a bike on what may be a cheeky trail? I'd be mentioning words like 'manslaughter' to him and comments like I know who you are and where to find you etc...
Oh I do like threads like this...
I'd definitely kill him dead.
RE: the local jump spot. Is it public or private land? If you shouldn't be there, you undermine your own credibility somewhat.
OP has stated the landowner themselves rides these woods. And having just joined their FB page, it's apparent the owner very much gives their blessing.
beefheart - Member
And kick his dogs.
Why? what have his dogs got to do with it? They didn't make him do all this stuff.
why didn't you follow him home that day you saw him if you're group had been after him for so long?
I think we should give the guy a taste of his own medecine. Take a leaf out of this mans' book....
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I tried to follow him but he saw me and went off on one.He seems to be very angry and likes trying to blame those trying to stop him ? You can't get a word in he never stops yaking.I got pissed and walked away with him still yelling.I quote 'Leave me alone you weirdo,i'm not damaging the trails its another person', followed by effin and jeffin.
I think i managed to get in 'Do you ever shut up'.One thing i did notice, once he'd spotted other dog walkers he started screaming louder and trying to accuse me of ...not sure really.Whole ream of bull shit flew from his mouth.You know the type no doubt.
Thankfully the other dog walkers know said land owner and their kids ride here so they're going keep an eye out too.
I so wanted to nut the guy !
you got to laugh,he said he was going to the police as he felt threatened...is that cause you are 'breaking the law, breaking the law..bevis&butthead came to mind.