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[Closed] To Kashima or not to Kashima

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I'm sending my forks and shock to Mojo for a service and considering the Kashima updgrade. I've never ridden a fork with Kashima but the marketing speil makes it sound good.

I would be paying just over £150 on top of the standard service for the fork and £80 extra on the shock. Is it worth the extra ££230?


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 5:13 pm
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I wouldn't pay that for a Jumper? 🙄


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 5:17 pm
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I personally wouldn't bother with the shock as I've noticed less stiction in the rear shock compared to the fork. They are generally more heavily sprung/ higher pressure, have a smaller area of seal contact and have more force working on them.

The difference between my Kashima and non-Kashima forks was very noticable. How much of that was down to the coating and how much to internals I don't know (one fork was a Talas RL and the other Talas RLC Fit).


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 5:24 pm
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That's LUDICROUS pricing!


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 5:25 pm
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don't kashima it the best upgrade by far would be to ask mojo to fit the SKF seals thats biggest difference you'll notice. (though i'm sure they're fitted as part of a standard service now)


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 5:25 pm
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Kashima is a lot plusher on the forks but don't think for a mo they are harder wearing in any way. T


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 5:28 pm
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Don't bother.

You may as well service the forks, ride on them then sell them and buy some kashima forks later on for the same wonga.


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 5:28 pm
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Just spray some of this on your stanchions safe in the knowledge that it can be easily & cheaply re-applied:

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My new Fit Talas did not come with Kashima and they are buttery smooth. Fork Juice also helps keep the seals clean just pump the forks a few times & reapply if required.


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 5:41 pm
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My Five has a kasima RP23 and RLCs, both noticeably plusher that the old stuff.


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 5:49 pm
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without doubt less stiction. not however less plush, if that makes sense ?

initial movement is stunning, no seal stiction.....


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 6:04 pm
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don't bother with Kashima

ask for the SKF low-friction seals, it makes a much bigger difference

and make sure you do regular "lowers servicing" on your Fox fork, it keeps them running buttery smooth and prevents any premature damage to the fork stanchions


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 6:31 pm
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don't bother with Kashima, ask for the SKF low-friction seals, it makes a much bigger difference

They have had to up the compression tune of the 2012 RP23's etc due to the lowered friction of the kashima coating. If they have had to do that, I think you will find it makes a lot of difference.


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 6:34 pm
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@flow

I should have clarified, my comments were about the Fox forks, not the shocks

no experience with Kashima on the shocks, my RP23 XV BV has no Kashima and runs just fine with the stock seals and regular applications of Finish Line Dry Lube spray and then Fork Juice on the outside of the seals, after cleaning


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 6:37 pm
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Cheers for the advice.

I think I'm going to go for the standard service and put the money I would have spent on the Kashima upgrade, towards some new wheels 😀

Will get some of that Fork Juice though.


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 6:44 pm
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Did I miss something?
I thouhgt Kashima was just a way of differentiating between the monied and the great unwashed, purely based on the colour of their stanchions?

\and yes I have kashima stanchions, you penniless oaf.


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 6:47 pm