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Dear all ,
as per this thread
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/tjs-visiting-manchester/page/3#post-2818189
the legendary TJ is oop [down in his case] North this saturday
To celebrate this great event there will be a Rivvy ride with pub stop meeting at 10:30 am for an 11 am start. Roughly 20-25 miles 5 hours ish- TJ will confirm how much time he has
Pace will be social and it will not be a fast ride but a social one.
Meet in front of the house by the top barn in your bestest riding gear/dandy horse.
TJ will be with tandem- I think - and the route will be SS able and suitable for any bike.
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Sounds like a good ride - oh hang on a minute I'll just have a look at some of this Tandem geeza's posts.....
.....no, sorry, but I'd rather shove wasps up my ass than meet him.
Cheers all.

sowwy rusty
Charming steel4real. all welcome you know.
Yes even nobbers are welcome Mr Steel 😉
It will be slow paced so as long as you can manage the distance you will be fine
social ride pace. Anyone getting too sporty will be laughed at and told to do the climbs twice
I could do with a navigator 🙄 so if anyone from roughly Winsford-ish area wants a lift there's plenty of room . Could pick up anywhere up to about j19 M6 , Northwich area, before I get on the M6. 🙂
I could be tempted. anyone want a lift share from manchester?
Is the pub stop mid ride or post ride? I'm not a fan of mid ride stops. We'll probably be there anyway
Pub stop not essential I was thinking about lunch tho. I will have to drive it looks like so beer ain't the best of ideas.
what he said i dont drink
Mid ride cake stops are essential
In that case ^^^^ I'll make some BFO's, they seem to travel OKish . 😉
One more question before I retire for the evening, are we doing the belmont descent? Either way it won't stop us coming but might affect the choice of bike
Junkyards in charge of the route although up for discussion I guess - we will probably be on the tandem. Happy to do the belmont sdescent - I saw it on youtube
yes of course but it is a smooth descent .....
I have not fully planned the route though but I will at some point and do a Memory Map for anyone who cares probably include the Ice cream run
I am now sold. hopefully it will be a good ride with good weather. if anyone wants to ride share from around manchester, give me an email.
Bump for the [s]shirkers [/s] workers
Have fun - would have loved to join in but I shall mostly be on the M5.... 😉
Sorry ... checked with ex and she is away on Saturday so will have the girls.
Have fun!
If it doesn't involve both the Belmont and the Ice Cream run its not a 'proper' Rivi ride. So there! And I want to see someone try the Ice Cream Run on a tandem.
And to counteract all this frankly [s]disappointing[/s] gay attitude to beer, I'm a fan of both the mid-ride AND post-ride beverage. The Black Dog straight after San Marino is the norm. Foods good in there too.
Anyway.... Its a Saturday afternoon social ride FFS! And... [b]AND[/b]... we have, lest we forget, the honour of playing host to Scottish Royalty no less. Standards have to be maintained. Have a word with yourselves 😉
if you don't mind people who push up more than their fair share of climbs, then i could well tag along...
Please do.
You know you want to fella. I'll happily walk up the hills with you 😀
Might be out that way on Saturday morn thrashing the cross bike. I'll keep an eye open for yer. Are you heading over our neck, Junky?
I doubt they have the fitness level tbh 😕
Tockholes cafe will be furthest we get but it depends on pace of the slowest...I assume the riders can pick up the drunks from the pub on the way back 🙄
There are a couple of shortcuts for the less fit - though you will miss some descents as a result but not Belmont
xherbivorex - I'll keep you company with the pushing at the back and being teetotal in the pub.
Mmm that is a challenge, are you throwing down a gauntlet?I want to see someone try the Ice Cream Run on a tandem.
Do it bunnyhop 🙂
Having seen a youtube vid of it it looks OK bar a couple of short sections that might require discretion
Healey nab is amust on a Tandem 😉
Some of the switchbacks on the red at Healey nab are far too tight to do on a tandem!
Some of the switchbacks on the red at Healey nab are far too tight to do on a tandem!
thats why i winked.
yeah, barring any disasters i'll be there!
Looking forward to this now 🙂
Whats this healy nab? How tight are these? we can get round any of the hairpins at Glentress and Laggan Youtube clip?
nice vid. didn't see any hairpins too tight - but Mrs TJ would have a fit at some of the rocky bits/ stepdowns 🙂
i don't think that the switchbacks on the climb back up on the red are shown on that vid, but a couple of them are quite tight 180 degree jobs. depends on whether johnnie wants to incorporate it into the ride; it's about 15-20 mins ride from rivi so fairly close by.
Dunno if it really fits the description of an easy social ride. we would be struggling with bits of that for sure
The red route are pretty reasonable for a social ride to be honest, its all rideable, its just more fun the faster you go 😆
I am in your hands really - just show me a good time 🙂
just show me a good time
Do you want to try some of the pubs in Darwen TJ? Sample a bit of East Lancs culcha?T Think of it as an education
I should be able to come.prefer the pubs near belmont road there as they're bank top .see you , mart
TJ - Better idea sack these lot off pretend you're on the ride and come and get hammered in Rammy with me they won't notice once they start trying to out-do each other on the climbs 😉
🙂
I wouldn't mind coming but hopefully I'll be on a plane to somewhere warm - shame as I'd actually like to meet the infamous teej and see if we had common ground on anything 😉
Says one who has jumped off a few kickers.- but Mrs TJ would have a fit at some of the rocky bits/ stepdowns
Its a shame Lowey isn't coming, he loves it on the back of the tandem 😉
Bunnyhop - MemberIts a shame Lowey isn't coming, he loves it on the back of the tandem
Euphermism of the day.
Right. There. 
aye he makes a fine stoker so I am told
😆
bumpity bump for the day shift.
any more for any more?
I may be able to make it.
i'll be there with 1 or 2 others.
I think I'm going to get leathered with Uncle Jezza and Bagpuss in Rammy instead! 😀
Actually.... I bloody will do unless this sodding weather improves. Its absolutely grim! I've been soaked every time I've been out recently. I'm getting very very bored with it
Do we know the route summary? I might bail on the latter half of the route if we're near anywhere near Rammy. Then again, might do the full route then ride back. Hmmmmmmmmmmm decisions, decisions
I've done the ice cream run a couple of times on a tandem!
Once as pilot (with rigid forks) and once as stoker (think with suspension). Can't say it was pleasant but ploughed through the boulders alright - just had to avoid the old tarmac dropoff bit as it grounded out in the middle 🙂
Tandem now thankfully sold.....
Genuinely sad not to be able to make it 🙁
Would be nice to meet some of the northerners and see what the riding is like.
It really is shame you're not coming Al. I was going to bring these along for you pair
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😉
Thanks binners. We get on fine in real life!
Well we did a couple of years back.
Never mind Al, you can show me and Ms Spanner round Kirroughtree next week instead.
Getting excited now.
You pay for the petrol and it's a deal!
I'm not waiting for anyone mind.
Shame al would like to have seen you brakes really tested
route
Barn - top tower via gardens - rutty drop run down - top bit of wilderswood tarmac climb back up and probably [ given numbers and how boggy it would be too cheeky to do the footpath] up the tarmac road to mast - Belmont descent- PUB- that's probably about an hour in! May then go to tockholes for the non drinkers
back up belmont and shoulder for the athletes and road and belmont road for the Binners
Ice cream run - gives a bail option here [ about 8 mile ride ish??] but from here on to Lead mines clough and over to Healy nab somehow - anyone any decent suggestion apart from Lead mines clough and back via heapey Fold lane- I suspect too many to try the cheeky reservoir paths tbh - there is another pub option here that may make a better option if we want to ride then go to the pub near the end of the ride- no idea what the pub is like as i dont drink.
I will do a Memory map at some point of the route
Given weather of late we will need to stick to the hardpacked stuff or it will be a bit boggy.
This route makes a rough figure of 8 with the first bit hilly and the second bit flatish
I assume TJ is looking for 4-5 hours with an hour or so in pub and 45 mins post ride eating cake in a car park somewhere.
As an Englander, I think I've subsidised the unruly northern tribes enough already, thanks 🙂
With a bit of luck, might make it as well. Question is, racy full-suss or rigid singlespeed? And the obligatory 'what tyres?' !
Nice one Junkyard. Looks like you'll be stuck with me for the whole route. You lucky lucky bastards! 😉
I think its going to be every boggy up there at the moment. It was bloody wet up on't moors last weekend. It hasn't stopped raining since!!!
Pyro - Got to be the full suss for the Belmont 😀
FS is overkill for rivvy IMHO and only the ice cream run benefits from FS but i have seen it done rigid.
The route is all SS [ belmont ascent will be a severe test mind if we do it] but I will probably take gears just so I go can slower- be rude not to talk to binners for the whole ride 😉
Tyres whatever you like there will be some mud but the route will avoid [ where possible] mud/moor/bog and most is hard packed.
Junkyard,
The best way (IMHO) to include Healy Nab from Belmont would be WWW to Tockholes Plantation & Roddlesworth > Abbey Village > Withnell Moor > Cheeky singletrack along the top of Wheelton Plantation > more cheeky singletrack to White Coppice > Healy Nab
Just offering a suggestion like 🙂
aye I thought of that but it means no ICR and i for one want to see a tandem on there!
It does cause route issues though
I was going to suggest something similar, maybe with a severe bit of cheek over Darwen Moor. But the thought of a tandem on the ICR is too good to resist 😀
And Junkyard - Bunnyhop is normally kind enough to slow down for me, so I don't get lonely at the back
Johnny from belmont i'd go up the road from the black dog to georges lane - pidgeon tower - down icr - past wilson's farm to the lead mines up over anglezarke then you have the choice of using the road to the nab or the cheeky singletrack* that starts opposite manor house farm and drops down to the resovoir.
*depends on numbers but i'd take it anyway just a couple of gates to go over
that the way I would do it as well tbh the tandem will handle the steep wet muddy bit into the trees without issue i assume 😉
Only back up belmont and shoulder for the fitter ones, as I like the shoulder and the climb tbh, but they meet at the same point anyway.
Then how about initial climb from back of school > Pike > ICR > Up gardens > Mast.
ah clever like that suggestion THINKS
What time are you meeting? The thought of watching a tandem go down ICR is proving too much. 😆
10:30 ish in front of the house by top barn for 11 am start
I sent him a video he says it will be fine.
We don't have to do the ice cream run. Mrs TJ muttered when shown the vid and it perhpoas will not be huge fun ( especially for her ). On the other hand it looks perfectly possible with the possible exception of one or two bit.
I just want you all to show me a good time 🙂
you will show us, as we point and laugh at you on your descent
Junkyard, answer your text messages!
Hoping weather will be right for sunday
goes to find phone and it is [b]saturday[/b] ....tomorrow may be a wet one 😕
bugger when did it switch to saturday...? that'll be a no from me then. 🙁



