my fireline, which im selling, came in at 27lb with reba 120s and american classice disc wheels
Selling your fireline - could be interested (along with many others i'm sure!), can you say what size and how much?
cheers
Pikes RCT3 150mm were 1900g bang on. That's 75g more than my Rev RCT3 with 20mm maxle (both black). Well worth the extra weight for the performance.
The Trace's are 1875g so just 50g heavier than the Rev's. (white so obviously lighter :D)
Only one ride on the Trace's so was playing around with air settings still but so far pretty good and fuss free. Minimal settings to play with (so could be a good thing depending on your point of view) but so far they just work. Massive range of rebound adjustment, Plenty of support in midstroke, stiff plush all the things you want. Can't comment on recovery/composure in real choppy section as yet.
I need to ride them a bit more (and the pikes too) to form a thorough comparison but so far I'd say they're pretty close on performance for my usage.
All up mine was about 24lb, but I'll do a check when i get a mo as the setup has changed a fair bit.
@jimandfrisco
size 18" medium, im 6ft ridden 3 times
Jim the price is £550 posted
includes smoothie mixer headset and bottom bracket ( £760 on one)
the frame is immaculate with no scratches or damage or marks.
selling as i bought a moonlander fatty 🙂
Lester
email is in my profile 🙂
CHute6, [url= http://forums.mtbr.com/29er-bikes/titus-fireline-evo-29-review-894036.html ]here's a review I wrote on mine[/url]
I'm 5'-9" and went with the 18" based off the reach #, which I'm very happy with. It's still more compact than a medium yelli screamy and a 150mm dropper post fits for me. Only the headtube is a bit long but that was an easy fix with the chromag flat bars.
Since these photos I've upgraded some parts since I like the bike so much. XO carbon cranks with a wolftooth DRM chainring, Specialized purgatory 2.4 tires, 150mm KS dropper, TA rear axle. I also have a wolftooth 42t cog I'll put on soon as the shoulders ready (2-3 more weeks). Pics were with the fork at 140mm.
Haven't weighed it.
Of the AM hardtail 29'er frames I've owned this is by far my fave. Only custom geometry could make it fit slightly better for me, since I'd prefer a 17" ST with 15.75" Reach. Otherwise I love the geometry- the chainstay length, head & seat angles and BB height are perfection.
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Thanks for the pics and I think your review emailsucks98 is about the most comprehensive out there.
The new pikes seem to be the fork to go for and the 140mm rct3 are 8mm shorter axle to crown than the fox 34's.
Out of interest, spoke to TF Tuned this morning & they confirmed they could drop the travel in 10mm increments but it involves re-machining the air shaft for around £60 but obviously if you wanted to go back to 140mm then it would need a new air shaft. Pretty fair I think. I did ask if there's much difference between the dual position and solo air & they confirmed the solo air is the better performing fork if you can live without the travel adjust.
What are you guys thoughts on tyres?
Might have to try and get some more hope parts on there yet, lol.
Think the world needs to produce more anodised blue parts
Think I'd hang off until the official springs arrive. Won't be long. That way you have two springs for £30ish rather than one at twice the price.
You can get them from the states if your really keen too! Check eBay.com.
Oh yeah I also noticed a rare white pike single air on eBay at £450 too if its still on!
Thanks Chute6.
On the Pike- I have the 150mm solo on my Banshee Prime and have a 160mm air shaft waiting for installation. swapping the air shafts doesn't look like too much more work than putting spacers into the fox, but I'm not sure rockshox makes a 130mm/29" air shaft. the 160mm airshaft was about $30usd.
Who knows though, with the shorter length of the Pike and the right headset, maybe it would be fine at 140mm.
The pike really is an awesome fork- I've had mine since august and it's definitely a cut above.
Tires- I'm a huge fan of the specialized butcher front / purgatory rear combo- at least for Pacific Northwest / BC conditions thats a winner combo.
I've a Purg too for muddy and rough days (great tyre) but running a conti mk2 2.2 BC rs upfront. Thought it'd b a bit frail (585g) but so far its OK for my riding. Survived garburn a couple times... I'm pretty light on front tyres tho.
On the rear I'm a bit heavier so running a Saguaro. Great tough (700g) fast roller and muddling thru the odd bit of deep mud OK so far this winter.
About to build up a couple of light bicycle carbon wide rims 35mm shortly so interested to see what that does to the tyres. Thinking I may be able to move to slightly lighter 2.0 & 2.1 tyres... Or just reap the benefit of the larger volume of my current 2.2s on the ht.
I run a Butcher/Purg setup on mine (well, to be fair the whole wheelset is straight off my Enduro).
They are pretty good - i've used the Butcher before, so know it's kinda like a faster rolling, slightly less grippy Minion, which is fine for what I use the bike for.
A lot less grip on an HT in general though. Thats taken me some getting used to.
Well that's it, I've joined the club now.
Picked up my 20" Titus Fireline ti frame from on one today and bought those RS Pike solo air 140mm in white off eBay (new and never fitted to a bike) so feeling pretty smug atm.
Ordered my hope hoops on stans flow EX and hope headset.
Still none the wiser on tyres tho???
I really rate the captain tyres in 26" as I like faster rolling tyres but what about 29"
Same story with maxxis ardents?
Anyones thoughts on on one tyres?
Good man, another Buddy of mine has just made the leap too. Nice combo too.
Ive so far stuck with something grippy up front but as you say you can get away with something a little less draggy on the back.
As well as 29" wheels rolling better, the extra grip from the larger contact patch means an easy rolling tyre can still be practical. Double bonus which means you can cover ground rather efficiently 🙂
I'm considering the Michelin Race'R for a rear when stuff dries out. Currently running Smorgasbords front and rear - good grip, even in mud, but not exactly fast rolling.
I've been thinking about some specialized captain tyres as I always liked the fast rolling ability plus they are a lot cheaper than maxxis and still nice and light.
Any experience with these guys?
Can't wait to ride it now
Also what size rear tyre will fit into the rear tyre??
My smorgasbords are a big 2.25
I've been reading good things about the maxxis ardent, especially in the 2.4 width.
Run these tyres on my 26" canyon and they seem to be light with low rolling resistance and a large casing to absorb the impacts etc
Not sure whether a smaller 2.4 size would fit tho
My Saguaro 2.2 comes up at about 57-58mm wide on pace to tl28 rims with a 23,mm inner dia. Still plenty of room at the sides.
Can't wait to see how big they come up on 30mm inner dia rims!.
I run captain 29er tyres on my fully rigid ss inbred. I find it a great alround tyre with loads of grip and very fast rolling. I only change to something bigger ( conti rubber queens) for superfast days, like last weekend at Bike park wales. Great value too.
Doh darn phone autospell... That was on pacenti tl28 rims!
That's good to hear, although cant seem to find it anywhere in larger than 2.0.
I used them all over the uk when I had an SC Nickel and they were great.
Would like to find something with a larger casing tho.
Anybody running maxxis 2.4 on their Titus Ti Fireline ??
Not tried 2.4, but generally width isn't the issue, it's tyre height clearance to the Seat Tube
I've managed to get most it together now, just waiting for a new rear disc in the right size.
Decided to try the tried and tested tyre combo of specialized purgatory front and ground control rear so we'll see how it goes.
I see what you guys mean by the tall headtube as It feels pretty high so have swapped some of stem spacers round atm. Hopefully first short ride tomorrow or the next couple of days
I see you've gone for the new lightweight 10spd chain 
Looks good chute6- I dig the blue!
on the head tube length, I haven't ridden flat bars since the 90s, but chromag flat bars set everything right fit-wise on my build. One bonus of the tall head tube, it does make the front end easy to get up.
I've finally managed to get out for a test ride and so far pretty impressed and can definitely feel the difference in the larger wheels. Loving the geometry with the 140mm fork as managed to pull a cracking manual that seemed to last for ages, lol.
I've currently got the stem slammed straight on top of the headset which seems quite a nice position with 20mm rise bars.
Really impressed and surprising how easy it was to jumps on it and rag it.
Will need to find a dropper post for it in the future but quite happy for now.
I used the 1x10 set up on my 456 beforehand and seemed to get on quite happily but may change the rear cassette to an 11-36 from the current 11-34 to get the same range. Quite like the simplicity in my local gritty area.
Anyone running a front mech?
If so which one fits?
Thanks
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You can use a standard top clamp mech, but the issue is the cable being quite close to the tyre.
I went for a Direct Mount FD, because it accepts a full length cable outer, giving a lot more space for a tyre. Problem solvers sell an adapter to fit a DM FD, but it's expensive. On-one sell one too for £10, which is what I use. It's been flawless so far.
Heard there were production issues with Firelines now. Any news Brant on when a new factory will be found to make this frame again, and when we will see them back in stock?
Oooh - so do I now own a "limited edition" frame??
Is anybody running this with a 100mm fork? I am thinking of buying one and have a 100mm reba I want to run. I'm also curious about reviews of the frame in general. Here is what I've dug up about 100mm forks any my super obsessive thoughts on the subject...
I spoke with someone from Titus yesterday about whether or not the Fireline EVO 29 could be run with a 100mm fork. He basically said "no" b/c the bottom bracket would be too low. It is interesting, however, that it would be similar to the Pivot Les, at least by my calculations, that is, about 12.1in static. Here is my calculation, the Fireline has a 12.4 static bb height w/ 120mm fork and w/ sag, it is 12.1in or 2.4in bb drop. The sag should be about 20-30mm which would be equal to a 100mm fork static. Does this make sense?
I do not hear complaints about pedal strikes on the Les reviews. Also, Niner SIR 9s and the Air line have a BB drop of 2.4in when run w/ 80mm forks. Finally, I'm running my SIR 9 with the niner carbon fork which is comparable in A-C length to 100mm forks (although no sag) and I prefer to have my EBB in the low/rear position. The offset of the EBB is 8.5mm. All this makes me think that 12.1 in static is doable and would provide a nice low-slung, quick cornering, nimble ride. Of course, this all depends what trails you are riding and your sag.
Does my reasoning above make sense? Anyone want to work out math problems for the rest of your day? Maybe more importantly, has anyone had problems w/ a BB height of 12in or so or BB drop of ~2.4in? Am I spending way to much time on this? Should I pick up the crying baby in the other room instead?
Finally, if you look at how the static numbers would change on the Fireline with a 100mm fork (similar to the "riding height" numbers for the Fireline with 120mm fork), it starts to sound a lot like the static numbers for the LES. The HA would be ~69, SA ~73, CS 17.1, BBH 12.1. A titanium ride with similar geometry to the LES for under $1000 sounds pretty appealing. Am I reaching here?
Here are some links if you feel like crunching some numbers:
Titus Titanium Fireline Evo 29er Frame
Bike Detail | Pivot Cycles - Mountain Bikes for XC, Trail, Downhill
kairoot,
I'm sure it will work, I have been pondering running an 80mm fork on the Fireline & I have just been playing in the garage comparing it to an old style Scandal frame. So with a A-C hight of 480mm, the BBdrop is about 5mm more than the Scandal, the head angle is still slacker but the seat tube angle is greater. I'm going to give it a go once my headset reducer gets here so I can run the 1 1/8th 80mm forks on it, I'll let you know.
HTH
2unfit.
I spoke with someone from Titus yesterday about whether or not the Fireline EVO 29 could be run with a 100mm fork. He basically said "no" b/c the bottom bracket would be too low.
Can you forward me that email please.
100mm fork up front running lots of compression damping would be great on the groomers IMHO.
keep the speed up and rip around.
still love this great bike 🙂
Brant (Brant, Brant, Brant), I take it your not happy with the response given, what AC fork hight do you think you would be able to get away with?
Having pondered some more today I'm going to try reducing the RS Rev to 100mm & run a Orbit gravity lower cup, an overall reduction of about 33mm, it felt high & ponderous on a standard XC ride so I'm hoping it will work out.
Cheers.
Brant, it wasn't an email. It was a phone call so I can't give you any more detail about what was said or who said it. I am very curious to her your take on the 100mm fork, however. Her life is in your hands, Dude. Report back to us as soon as it's done.
Now at 100mm, waiting on the zero stack lower headset.
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Kalroot, I have now installed the zero stack headset & the BB hight is 305mm (to the centre of the BB) and the BB drop is 70mm, this is using RS revs adjusted to 100mm static, 507mm A-C.
HTH.
Cheers.
Any linkies to that headset by the way? Is it a bit of a lump or on par with hope, cane creek etc?
Gee,
It's not a lump, there really is nothing to it, so probably lighter than the Hope, there is a link to the pictures of the bearing on the previous page, god only know how long it will last though, probably only as long as the good weather!
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Cheers.
2unfit, that is great. I'm curious to see how it rides. Are you getting a lot of pedal strikes? Have you run it with a 120mm fork? How do the two compare.
Still waiting on Brant's 2 cents on 100mm forks.
Ahhh its that one, now I remember. Must b getting old!. Missed the link before but wow those bearings look tiddly. Mind you recently had cartridge headset give up on me so might be worth a shot. Anyone run for a bit care to comment?
Just put my Fireline Ti Evi Ltd 20" frame in the For Sale section if anyone is interested. Link here: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-titus-ti-fireline-evo-ltd-29er-20%e2%80%9d-frame
Great bike - a real work of art - but little used as I preferred my FS Titus FTM.......
John
Still waiting on Brant's 2 cents on 100mm forks.
Why run an 100mm fork AND an internal lower cup?
