leaving litter on the trails.
leaving used inner tubes on bush branches.
miserable buggers that ignore you when you say hello.(although thats not just mountain bikers i admit).
riding better than me
not being gorgeous babes
[i]"leaving used inner tubes on bush branches.[/i]"
Like big black c0nd0ms, useless after one pr1ck
Yeah, litter and innertube trees are a bugbear here too.
Sorry I meant to say: "discarded after one pr1ck"
surely discarded [i]by[/i] one prick
Giving other mtb'ers a bad name by behaving like idiots in traffic or paths on the way to trails.
The ones that sneer/chuckle at cheap/shonky bikes are pretty annoying too.
Riding along the middle of the innerleithen to walkerburn back road at 2mph and ignoring the learner car that is trying to get past you.
The ones that sneer/chuckle at cheap/shonky bikes
my bike is cheap and shonky - sneer all you like, I don't mind :o)
Litter has to be the worst. Why cant people but empty gel tubes in their pockets?
Riding three/four abreast along narrow country lanes. Not just annoying but very dangerous as well
All the gear, no idea.
one that leave me at the back................ 😉
I like people with all the gear and no idea, makes me feel better about my riding ability.
People who say "all the gear no idea"
Riders who ride round puddles cos they are too cool to use mudguards. riding with no care for other users of the countryside or the trails they use
stuckup middle class winkers who speak like they,ve got a plum in there mouth and don,t give you the time of day let alone speak to you unless your cliped in to a lightweight xc machine
Those MTB mags that talk about 'just get out and ride', because anyone who buys those (or any other) MTB mag is clearly not, 'just getting out and riding'.
The fact of the matter is that those people who don't give a toss about the MTB scene and all the bike jiggery pokery that goes with it, including those mags, but own a mountain bike and go out every weekend, are the only ones that 'just get out and ride'. And, no one here, on this website forum 'just gets out and rides', because we spend more than half our time 'just' reading the mags, 'just' fannying about on this website forum and 'just' wan£ing over expensive blingy bike parts.
Litter - check
Bike snobs - check
Whippets - checkedy check
Multi - faff group rides - check
Climb grumblers - check,check, checkedy check.
No tube, no pump, no tool - check, ****in' check
😉
B.A.nana............ read your post,now i'm away out to ride.
I'l be back soon to read some more before getting out riding again.
And, no one here, on this website forum 'just gets out and rides', because we spend half our time reading the mags, fannying aboput on this website forum and wan£ing over expensive blingy bike parts.
Oi! No one gets out and rides [b]all the time[/b], but I don't read the mags and have scant interest in bikes at all, never mind their components.
People who don't build or maintain what they ride. Anything else can be forgiven.
I agree with SFB on this - bought a magazine once - it was rubbish, I can't identify a single bike without seeing the name on it, don't care. I just like riding my bike ( and arguing / being educated on here 🙂 )
[s]The insecurity.[/s]
things that annoy you about mountain bikers?
Riders that go on the STW Quantocks group ride while I have to work, and then post pics of themselves waving at my workplace 👿
Bike snobs, litter, slower riders that refuse to get out of the way to let you pass, torn faced ****s, anyone with scant regard for the country side & its wildlife.
maintain what they ride
I have a strict regime of intentional neglect
I dont think Ive ever let myself be annoyed by another mtber.
I suppose I get annoyed when I see someone with a much nicer bike then me, but no idea how to ride it at all. But I'm not annoyed at them, I'm just annoyed that fate or whatever decided to give money to the guy who cant ride as well. Because I know if I was in his posistion I'd probably do the same.
Its nice to have all the gear. The idea can wait.
Riders who ride round rocks/features cos they are too cool to use their (6") bike as intended ..
Litter is far worse though
And people who relieve themselves by the side of a track/trail, you can't be bothered to go a few metres away, where nobody has to be near you
OK, people who go to Stainburn and then avoid all the difficult features and think it's sh!t because they couldn't ride anything, sending an email to our chairman calling it 'Sh!tstain'. 😆
Litter and no respect for the countryside (although this just doesn't apply to MTBers)
Tubes & Gell packets
Riders not bringing along their own food for a long days ride 👿
And people who relieve themselves by the side of a track/trail, you can't be bothered to go a few metres away, where nobody has to be near you
are you objecting to people peeing near you, or near the trail ? Isn't pee fairly innocuous ?
Singlespeed...
I hate guys who pick on less skilled riders instead of helping them get better. I really hate guys who are lucky enough to have their girls ride with them but make the girl feel like she's holding him back. Trail sanitizers bug me more than the guys who make trail braiding pussy paths around every techy feature, but it's close. Guys who bring their kids out with no helmet, or no water, or no clue. Guys who drink bad beer and think I'm a snob for refusing one when offered.... There's more, but I feel I'd better go settle down now.
I hate bikers who speed past or ride recklessly around walkers. Just gives us all a bad name.
Most recently? The Southern eedjit who watched my mate faceplant at GT and started shouting at him to, "Get out of the way lads, come on, move", as my mate was trying to get up. Wasn't as if he was carrying any speed either - we'd just had to stop and push round some trailbuilders.
What a twunt.
Life's too short to get really anoyed with fellow bikers, we all share a common interest, so save yourself the agro, there are too many other groups (e.g. oap ramblers) to get wound up about methinks.
People who somehow think themselves superior to "OAP Ramblers", just because they ride a bicycle.
And people who type the word 'methinks'.
People who MOAN about others irritate the F*CK out of me.The superior/sneery attitude of some people who respond to genuine questions on forums.
lack of courtesy to other users on public trails whoever they are
lack of mechanical ability (grinding gears...) and not cleaning a nice bike
people who claim to do freeride when they clearly don't
bike arrogance/snobbery is very annoying (especially from those 'in the industry') but i don't think it should be on the list as it's not specific to mountain biking, it's personality. it's evident in all hobbies and all walks of life so is clearly just human nature
i like MOJO's point about riding with one's girlfriend and not appreciating it. i will from now on!
Those MTB mags that talk about 'just get out and ride', because anyone who buys those (or any other) MTB mag is clearly not, 'just getting out and riding'.The fact of the matter is that those people who don't give a toss about the MTB scene and all the bike jiggery pokery that goes with it, including those mags, but own a mountain bike and go out every weekend, are the only ones that 'just get out and ride'. And, no one here, on this website forum 'just gets out and rides', because we spend more than half our time 'just' reading the mags, 'just' fannying about on this website forum and 'just' wan£ing over expensive blingy bike parts.
I found that pretty annoying - god forbid anyone be so into something that it extends beyond the actual riding.
I pretty much buy every mag and ride plenty thanks.
Right better get packed to hit the Quantocks, riding 4th day out of 4 this bank holiday weeked... 🙄
People who are riding the new tracks at Gisburn forest before they are finished!! I dug out a section at the last dig and when I went back yesterday it was totally trashed taking twice as long to finish. ****ing selfish if you ask me. There is signs up asking people to stay off for just a couple of weeks to let the trail settle/bed in so why can't they just wait?? grrrr
I give up time to help dig at the volunteer days and drive 120miles a month to do so hence the frustration when a few ruin all the hard work.
Can't be doing with elitism, superiority, hostility; whatever the location or situation.
Wish I could stop being frustrated at, e.g., not being able to manual 100yds and just ride safely instead.
I'm going to chime in with - Deliberate Skidding
Also -Teenagers who judge a book by it's cover and pigeonhole everyone
Lack of respect (for anyone), but then that annoys me about any part of life.
People who make riding tricky bits look easy.
"elite rider on your left" at Mayhems (when the left is the bit I'm on) - If you're that effing elite, pass on the side there's room, don't expect me to move out of your way.
Standing around in car parks while someone spends an hour to build their bike, that they should have been doing last night. It doesn't happen much though, as we tend to go and do a quick loop.
Agree with "elite rider on your left" comment, had someone at Ashton Court yelling "move over", then cut in tight enough to almost clip me. We were riding across a trail in an open field at the time.
People who take " 'morning" as a cue to join you and talk constantly about themselves for the next hour/until you let them take a left and sneakily go right.
People who don't take the hint, catch you later and resume the incessant jabber.
2hottie - How do you get involved with trail building?
Litter annoys me, I've yet to see anyone throw a wrapper away intentionally. I've never seen an innertube, I keep looking as I want to make a crud catcher and chainstay protector.
People walking their dog on at a trailcentre on the trail and not the walkers path.
I fall in the "all the gear, no idea" look and use it to my advantage 😉
People that don't ride with helmets, I find that plain stupid.
Braking bumps on a nice fast flowing section.
"are you objecting to people peeing near you, or near the trail ?"
both
"lack of mechanical ability (grinding gears...)"
are you including people who ride singlespeed bikes?
people that moan about mtbers that have all the gear but no idea, "who cares" there probably just jealous Cu's they cant afford it.
Why do others actually care about what others are buying, wearing, or riding, surly its just a good thing that your just out on your bike for what ever rezone your into it?
Litter is the ultimate cardinal sin
laughing or sneering at people that have cheep bikes
"A chain that's screaming for some oil"
I always say hi to others I meet out and about, it really bugs me when I just get ignored.
The no helmet thing really gets to me to, I saw a guy cutting about with his 2 year old on one of them bike seat thingys that sits above the back wheel, he had a helmet on but his kid didn't, what was he thinking it's just plain crazy!!
Litter really annoys me and not just mountain bikers dropping it. What bikes people ride doesn't bother me and i've seen the girlfriend syndrome while out riding.
one that leave me at the back................
Ton - Nick and I assumed the 'rear gunners' position so well (well, so far off the back........) in the Dales that I think your days of being 'off the back' are gone 😉
Litter - inner tubes and gel wrappers, especially.
People who are impolite and inconsiderate to others (other riders, walkers, equestrians)
"Excusers" - i.e. people who blame their failings on anything but themselves. Wrong tyre choice/ pressure, not having the big bike, anything other than them being not fit enough or not skilled enough.
People who spend loads of time on MTB forums, mostly telling other people to "just get out and ride".
Some posters above seem to be annoyed at other riders for not being up to their own god-like standards and having to use chicken runs - which seems a little harsh to me.
2 things for ,e
1. people over the age of 15 who persist in using words like rad to describe themselves or anything to do with mountain biking.
2. People who are so obsessed with MTB's that they know everything about everything and are more than happy to tell you this. These people also tend to be able to give you a biog of every rider on the MTB dvd you are watching. Who would have thought ROAM could beso tedious!
Some mtb'ers can come across as VERY smug and middle-class (I am as middle-class as they come btw, but you know what I'm getting at). When I went to a bike demo day when I first got into biking I wore trackies and some people def looked at me funny because of it.
Litter and being inconsiderate/unfriendly to other trail users etc is very annoying.
When I went to a bike demo day when I first got into biking I wore trackies and some people def looked at me funny because of it.
I get the same looks when wearing Lycra, I think it's the sight of a beached whale in skinshorts causing fear.
ignorant ****s who dont acknowledge you when you move out of the way
Helmet nazis?
Downhillers going down the XC descent at Cwm Carn. Too scared to go over the jumps???
Those that seem to think other forms of cycling are worse/less than mountain biking - e.g. road biking, touring.
Those that think mountain biking is entirely based at Glentress or any other trail centre and can't be done "in the woods/fields behind your house".
Those that think other people in the outdoors are in the way (walkers, horse riders etc.). We're all out there for much the same reasons...
People who think that just because they happen to only see some one on certain kind of bike riding what they deem to be unsuitable for that bike that the rider must be too scared/pathetic/unfit to ride the"proper" stuff. You have no ideawhat that rider may have, or be about to, ride.
Joxster,
Links to the trail building at Gisburn Forest:
http://www.singletrackworld.com/2009/03/gisburn-forest-gets-180000-for-mountain-bike-trails/
http://www.singletrackworld.com/2009/03/gisburn-forest-trail-building-this-sunday/
http://www.singletrackworld.com/2009/02/singletrack-trail-guide-gisburn-forest/
http://www.forestofbowland.com/cons_volunteering.asp
The next dig is on the 17th may
Helmet nazis?
In Oz , the helmet nazis , are the Police . Just keep paying those fines 8)
Fixing braking bumps to then watch a Rider come through and lock up the back brake for no real reason, usually get an 'I cant help it' when we shout for them not to?! yes you can, you don't have a problem with the front brake ffs?!?!
litter, especially inner tubes etc. in trees, that took ****ing effort to get it there, why not use the effort to put it in your bag/pocket..
TJ - Helmet nazis, nice one 
Trash
Bad manners
Cr@p trends
Grumpy driving instructors on the Innerleithen to Walkerburn road.... 😀
Had a great time in Innerleithen tho...
(and I told my mates that you'd definitely come on here and moan about it!)
huge groups of riders all out together.......sorry but there you go........
being told what is 'rad'/cool/or not acceptable.........without people understanding...........i use riser bars with bar ends at times due to injury but i get the comments.
People who take " 'morning" as a cue to join you and talk constantly about themselves for the next hour/until you let them take a left and sneakily go right.
I was interested in this, because I'm not a very sociable person. I enjoy group rides and random chatting, but prefer not to engage in tedious conversations - and biking is perfect for this, as all you have to do is take a different line, flub an obstacle, or speed up and the person is gone :o)
If someone were to continue bending my ear I would just say "Please stop talking to me, I'm not interested". But usually just ignoring them works fine.
huge groups of riders all out together
yeah, there IS such a thing as being [b]too[/b] friendly 🙁 Any more than 40 really does my head in.
Dh boy that are too lazy/unskilled to ride something else than a DH bike and that:
-Ride recklessly around pedestrian
-Trash the trail because these morons can't ride down around a switchback, they feel force to ride through it digging the trail and making the switchback useless.
****ing id10t
I don't see too much tubes around. However I can name a lot of places that have been close to bikers due to the mentioned DH boy such as Edwards and co.
I usually ride on my own and don't see many other mtb'ers, but what I do find annoying are those few I see that treat natural or Upland Path trails with no respect i.e. skidding, short cutting or riding with no consideration for the damage they might be causing to old delicate singletrack.
Go back to your trail centres.
left hand berms
<grumpy old git mode on> Where are all these inner tubes hanging on bushes, I'll have to get out to more popular places? I'm not poor but I'd never leave one behind, never mind the litter issue, by the time you've got it off the wheel it takes no time to slap a self sticky patch on, or put in a spare, take it home and patch it later. Even punctured and ripped to bits they have 101 other uses, I've got a stack of them in the garage next to the WD40 and the mole grips. <grumpy old git mode off>
yeah, there IS such a thing as being too friendly Any more than 40 really does my head in.
sorry Simon, but the damage large groups of riders do to the moors around the north west is shocking, plus not all groups are as polite but my worse experiences have been with large groups of riders who completely disregarded common decency, politeness and where very unfriendly.
sounds like someone hasn't got any friends or riding buddies
How would a large group of riders do more damage than a few smaller groups with the same total number of riders?
Young twenty something riders giving me grief, lets see how hot you are in thirty years time.
Agree with TJ about riders taking poor lines rather than get wet or muddy.
And riders that have only been going 30 seconds that tank past you when you've been out for five hours.
People who opose my right to use flat bars.
RichPenny - MemberHow would a large group of riders do more damage than a few smaller groups with the same total number of riders?
Apparently it does. something to do with the vegetation having time to recover between each injury / episode of damage
something to do with the vegetation having time to recover between each injury / episode of damage
here we go again 🙁 FWIW, in the Lakes I've seen far worse damage caused by sudden rain than years of bike passage (whatever the numbers)
SFB - this is undeniably true.
More damage is done by the passage of 50 people in an hour than by 50 people in a week
The reason you see damage from sudden rain is because the vegetation has been damaged leading to run-off that takes the soil away.
However it all depends on the terrain and path whether it is sustainable or not. I have no issue with sustainable and reasonable access even if its big groups. all it required is a bit of thought rather than head in the sand blank denial