Launched yesterday, bit vague on the details as to whether you can follow routes on it, whether there’ll be OS maps (or something equivalent) and whether it can be linked to strava etc.
Admittedly I’ve just read about it straight after waking up so may have missed these details myself, anyone know the answers or care to pick it apart?
https://www.apple.com/uk/apple-watch-ultra/
The £850 price tag with 36hr battery life in normal mode means I can’t be arsed to look farther than my Instinct.
Far more interested in the new iPhones capability with making emergency satellite calls. 1st genuinely new bit of phone tech in years. Wonder how much that service will cost….
whether there’ll be OS maps (or something equivalent
All the OS mapping Apple Watch apps that I know of require you to have your phone with you.
As for Strava, you can link the Apple apps to it. Not tried it though as I strongly dislike Strava.
I want one. But then I think it’s an £850 watch that will be obsolete in 5 years. I’ll buy one when I achieve my life’s ambition of having more money than sense.
DC Rainmaker has a shortish report on it, but yeah, the battery life doesn't look great. 36 hours in normal mode presumably means maybe 8-9 when running GPS.
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2022/09/apple-watch-ultra-hands-on-everything-you-need-to-know.html
Other problem is that you of course need an iPhone.
36 hours in normal mode presumably means maybe 8-9 when running GPS.
Maybe. But “normal mode” means not in low power mode, which is coming to all Apple Watches and basically switches off things like GPS and max screen brightness to double the battery life. For reference, I can track my ride on my series 7 all day (say a 5 hour ride) no problem, so this new ugly brute should do your 8-9 hours and have plenty left. No way it’ll do more than one day of riding/tracking without a charge though. The thing that eats battery fastest on the Apple Watch is taking and making calls… so a bigger battery is welcome for anyone wanting to leave the phone at home when riding. Apple have still got a long way to go there though.
9hrs with GPS is best case, no cloud, no extra satellites, no second to second recording.
You can't fit a battery big enough in a stupid form factor like that. But it isn't for outdoorsy people - it's the watch equivalent of the hunter wellies worn on the London tube.
it’s the watch equivalent of the hunter wellies worn on the London tube.
I might borrow this 🙂
Looks lovely, but totally impractical for the purpose they are marketing. Seems to be aimed towards dynamic, brave, adventurous outdoorsy types who spend their weekends climbing mountains, diving in exotic locations, or running across deserts. I personally can’t see any of those people wearing one of these if the battery life is that low. Low power mode will mean degraded service/stats collection so seems a bit pointless.
The real use case for this appears to be armchair enthusiasts who love to talk about climbing mountains, diving in exotic locations, or running across deserts. I expect the adventure button would get a fair bit of use though - imagine being able to quickly switch to a compass in night mode, very useful for navigating home from the wine bar.
Shame as I do like Apple products, but I’ve yet to really see the point in the watches.
This made me chuckle, in the footnotes:
The Cycle Tracking app should not be used as a form of birth control.
I’ve missed a good apple bashing thread…
It’ll get as much adventure use as 99.9% of most fenix’s and instincts ever made.
Seems to be aimed towards dynamic, brave, adventurous outdoorsy types who spend their weekends climbing mountains, diving in exotic locations, or running across deserts.
It’s not for camping or bivvying with no source of power, that’s for sure. It’s for what most people do, a day out in the mountains/sea/hills when you’ll by tucked up in bed the following night with your stuff charging. Even for the backpackers, carrying a charger/battery is already pretty normal. Not getting one, and the battery does need to be improved further… but this isn’t for long self reliant expeditions in the wild, is it, it’s for the kind of realistically achievable outdoor fun we all love.
Far more interested in the new iPhones capability with making emergency satellite calls. 1st genuinely new bit of phone tech in years. Wonder how much that service will cost….
Free...
...but US/Canada only at launch, and text messages (no calls) to emergency services only.
I suspect it will stay US/Canada only for a long time, if not for ever, given the infrastructure it seems to need (Apple employees in "Relay Centres" to pass on the messages to the emergency services in some situations).
https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/07/apple-emergency-satellite-iphone-14/
There is a UK company working on this as well… although its name escapes me… something cheesy like “Spitfire”…
“Bullitt” !!! [ thank you google ]
I suspect it will stay US/Canada only for a long time
That’s a shame, genuinely useful feature.
It does look nice, but I can't see many serious sportspeople switching from more traditional brands.
This amused me too:
Call and text.
Cellular connectivity is built into every model. With a service plan, you keep in touch with up to 18 hours of 4G LTE all-day battery life.
18 hours and all-day don't seem to correlate here 🙂
Re. the satellite mode - I can see how the Venn diagram of people who buy this watch, and people who need to call to get rescued, might have quite a bit of overlap 😜
36 hours battery life. In a watch marketed at endurance athletes etc. Hahahaha! And £850! LOL.
It’s not for camping or bivvying with no source of power, that’s for sure. It’s for what most people do, a day out in the mountains/sea/hills when you’ll by tucked up in bed the following night with your stuff charging.
my current only gripe with my Garmin is that it wont do a full day skiing with gps running. Need to take a power bank and give it a boost on longer lifts.
knowing you'll get a 9-4 GPS track, view any texts without having to take your gloves off and definitely have enough juice to contactless pay in the bar afterwards would be the level of outdoorsy they are aiming at.
I'm disappointed. I like Apple products and was hoping for a simple ruggedised watch rather than this behemoth as have been holding off a normal Apple Watch for fear of smashing it in normal everyday life - diy, riding, walking around etc.
The battery life is apparently long enough for people to run a marathon with. A mate that works at Apple commented that he'd need more than the battery life they are claiming for that.
I honestly think this will be the equivalent of those Breitling watches aimed at pilots... The Chelsea Range Rover of watches, worn by people that 'need' them for their 30 minute power walk across Hyde Park. Everyone that actually does endurance events will use either a Garmin, Suunto or a G-Shock.
I honestly think this will be the equivalent of those Breitling watches aimed at pilots…
Nailed it. In fact the Breitling Emergency has a pull-out radio/satellite beacon that probably has better battery life.
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Re. the satellite mode – I can see how the Venn diagram of people who buy this watch, and people who need to call to get rescued, might have quite a bit of overlap 😜
Proper LOL.
knowing you’ll get a 9-4 GPS track, view any texts without having to take your gloves off and definitely have enough juice to contactless pay in the bar afterwards would be the level of outdoorsy they are aiming at.
Except:
Battery and performance may be affected at very low temperatures.
Also
I’ve missed a good apple bashing thread…
I'd class myself as an Apple fanboi, but Apple watch seems completely pointless to me.
but Apple watch seems completely pointless to me.
I wouldn't buy one of these, but I had a AW4 and now an AW7. I don't miss garmin at all. view it as a remote screen/control for your phone and it makes a lot more sense.
charging/batttery life was my biggest concern when I switched but in reality its a complete non-issue. its got more battery life than I have and takes about 30mins to charge from nearly empty. I've only ever run it flat once.
in standalone GPS mode (it'll use your iPhone GPS if its connected), I think the 7 uses about 10% an hour.
t’ll get as much adventure use as 99.9% of most fenix’s and instincts ever made.
My Instinct gets zero use cos it’s at home in a box with a couple of old Swatches and a cheque book for a bank account I closed ages ago. I gave up trying to navigate the ridiculous menu system or get it to integrate with the 2 Garmin apps that were required. Now my Apple Watch synchs perfectly ( as you’d expect) and works as a little remote module for my phone.
@jam-bo interesting. The wife decided she wanted an Apple Watch for her birthday, she has a Fenix 5 but doesn't really need all the bells and whistles, just something that will track runs and play music while she runs. Importantly it needs to look nice for work, going out, etc (her Fenix isn't exactly glamorous).
We went to the Apple store to look at them and the guy there said that she'd need to take her phone with her if she wanted to record runs. Is that right? That was a deal breaker. She's on GiffGaff and they don't provide the eSIM pairing option thingummy if that makes any difference.
[sorry for the hijack OP]
You don’t need the phone with you. I track (with GPS) runs and rides on my AW4. Can either use the Strava app or the apple activity app. Uploads the ride/run to the phone for upload to cloud when I get home.
I'd probably be in the market for one if it wasn't for the £849 price tag!
RE the battery life, they said in the presentation that it would be long enough for "most people" to complete an ironman "long distance triathlon".
As it is, I'll probably stick with an apple watch for every day use (still on an old S3, will probably upgrade soon) and Suunto for running ultras.
Can either use the Strava app or the apple activity app.
I don't take my phone with me when riding at all. My series 7 tracks my rides, is my wallet for paying for things, and my phone if someone important wants me. This brute would do all that for longer. I'm not into the big bulky diving watch look myself, so I'd get a series 8 with cellular connection instead, if I didn't already have a silly unnecessary wrist computer and I was looking to buy one. You don't need the cellular connection for tracking... but if the plan is to leave the phone at home often, it's useful.
Let's be honest it's not an outdoor/multisports watch it's just another expensive aspirational "Tech Accessory" from a company that makes expensive aspirational tech accessories.
Garmin, Polar, Sunto, Leyzne, etc will not be worried by Apple's smart watch offerings.
Jebus my Missus and Eldest (Both iPhone users) each have a Fitbit Versa 2 those are just just bogo smar****ches, not the latest greatest tech, they're happy enough with the basic fitness tracking/HR functionality. those do a solid week in normal mode, and does what most muggle smart watches should and just uses phone GPS if it needs location information...
The £850 price tag with 36hr battery life in normal mode means I can’t be arsed to look farther than my Instinct.
^^Ditto^^ I'm a week in with my Instinct Solar (I already think it's going to dislodge the G-Shock from regular rotation) I can't imagine why you'd pay 6x more for something that can't even hold 2 days charge, the Instinct Solar can apparently go for a couple of months* (*in battery saver mode)...
I’ve missed a good apple bashing thread…
It’ll get as much adventure use as 99.9% of most fenix’s and instincts ever made.
Depends really if you consider looking for a spare USB port so your watch remains useful for an entire weekend an "adventure", say what you like about the posh Garmins they're far better on battery life, at least making the odd adventure away from a plug socket an option, Plus at £850, if you go adventuring you might scratch it. Apple do sometimes deserve a good bashing...
We went to the Apple store to look at them and the guy there said that she’d need to take her phone with her if she wanted to record runs. Is that right?
i think the AW1 and maybe AW2 didn't have built in GPS and so needed the phone.
now they have it, but only use it if they aren't connected to your phone via bluetooth.
Garmin, Polar, Sunto, Leyzne, etc will not be worried by Apple’s smart watch offerings.
I'd bet they are...
The dcrainmaker video on it said recording workouts could cover an Ironman triathlon (17 hours or so) but it's not clear yet how that new low power mode works. Hoping that will also mean a normal 44mm apple watch might do a few more hours and that would cover my longer rides, last time it made it about 6 hours before dying.
It's similar money to the high end Garmins but probably better functionality for most people.
We went to the Apple store to look at them and the guy there said that she’d need to take her phone with her if she wanted to record runs. Is that right?
Taking an iPhone with you saves a heap of watch battery capacity, as it just uses the phone. It's very noticable.
It does mean though that you have to think about where you put the phone - riding with it in a hip/back pocket really affects signal so the GPS plot can be all over the place.
Garmin, Polar, Sunto, Leyzne, etc will not be worried by Apple’s smart watch offerings.
I'm sure they are - this watch will eat into a large amount of the Fenix (etc) market. And apologies for misleading the thread further up - I believe it has 60 hours of normal life. While that's nothing like as much as a Fenix, it's almost certainly enough for a mid-packer like me to finish an Ironman.
Not that I'm planning on getting rid of my Instinct!
My Apple Watch does everything that I need it to.
I love that I can go cycling or running or walking and not worry about carrying a phone or wallet.
I sold my Fenix as it was both overkill in many contexts and yet not as good as an Apple Watch for things I wanted it to do.
I agree the Apple watch is great as a general smar****ch with decent sports credentials - competing with the likes of the galaxy watch, ticwatch, fitbit etc etc.
But with this new one they're targeting the hardcore (endurance) athletes and watches like the fenix 7, epix etc which IMO is laughable, especially with 1.5 days battery life in general usage.
This will be very popular with the cross fit crowd, or those with £50k's worth of land rover who spend 3 weekends a year 'adventuring' in the Welsh countryside...
Still, gotta give it to Apple - they know their market and I don't doubt this will be snapped up by hoardes of people.
Taking an iPhone with you saves a heap of watch battery capacity, as it just uses the phone. It’s very noticable.
It does mean though that you have to think about where you put the phone – riding with it in a hip/back pocket really affects signal so the GPS plot can be all over the place.
Love it. Buy a smart fitness watch to use for tracking activities, has to use phone GPS to get any decent battery life. 🤣
riding with it in a hip/back pocket really affects signal so the GPS plot can be all over the place.
so apart from a handlebar mount, where would be good?
the Instinct Solar can apparently go for a couple of months* (*in battery saver mode)…
I only wear mine when cycling, to record my turbo workouts (for body battery) and on hols as a pool watch & to record an MTB ride. This means I’ve only charged it 3 x since I bought it last November. All other times it sits on the windowsill switched off and slowly charges. It’s at 78% now showing 21 days normal mode and 67 in Power Saver.
It’s also muddy, dusty and has some sweat and gel on it, definitely one of the 0.1% 😀
But then I think it’s an £850 watch that will be obsolete in 5 years.
I doubt the battery will last that long, wife's iWatch battery won't even last a day doing nothing with it - only a few years old. Non replaceable as well....
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I’m disappointed. I like Apple products and was hoping for a simple ruggedised watch rather than this behemoth
This is what I was hoping for as well. Not a cat in hell chance of me buying one of these new ones for £849 even if I won the lottery. Think I'll stick with my 7 till it breaks or they no longer do updates.
They do a cheaper model...that doesn't sound too far off this one though. It might not be as rugged but it'll probably do most things. If you use an Apple watch now for all that then it probably won't be much different...
I only wear mine when cycling, to record my turbo workouts (for body battery) and on hols as a pool watch & to record an MTB ride. This means I’ve only charged it 3 x since I bought it last November. All other times it sits on the windowsill switched off and slowly charges. It’s at 78% now showing 21 days normal mode and 67 in Power Saver.
It’s also muddy, dusty and has some sweat and gel on it, definitely one of the 0.1% 😀
Like I said I'm a week in and I didn't even fully charge it when I first got it. I've been wearing it every day with HR on full time and tracked maybe 6hrs hours cycling (every hour of GPS logging seems to knock a day off of the standard mode power reserve), it's still reporting 10 days battery (19 in saver mode) remaining, I'm sure I'll start being a bit more efficient with the way I use it in the next few weeks.
That's mainly why I look at the "ultra" and I just can't imagine spending so much more on something that has so little battery life and thinking it's suitable for "Endurance" or "outdoor" type stuff.
I guess we aren't comparing like for like though...Garmin, etc is a watch with fitness metrics key to it - smart notifications are nice extras. The Apple watch is a device that integrates with your electronic life and it happens to tell the time and also can do some fitness tracking.
They are built for different user groups and use cases...so although it seems very expensive and very low battery life it probably appeals to those who like doing things from their wrist.
Not for me and I've had a proper rant about it this morning to some unfortunate work colleagues, but I'm done now and reckon it is a bad choice for outdoors people but probably going to work well for those who can afford it and spend a wee bit of time doing stuff that might be handy tracking.
I had an Apple Watch 3 when they came out but it fell from the bedside table charger and cracked the screen so I’ve never bothered again, far too fragile but if my spms magically disappeared and I was still able to ride a bike and work as a mountain guide I’d probably be very interested in the Apple Watch pro, I figure it’s a bit overkill for my current situation as I’ve not left the house in 3 weeks and the only useful elements to my health would be the fall protection/alarm and body temperature, I doubt I need the gps capability to navigate my 1 bed bungalow.
Oxygen levels and heart data are useful (applies to the cheaper current models as well). Shame yours broke. I think they’re much tougher now… mine has been through the wars… metal is scratched and scuffed… …mostly form dry stone walls… but the “glass” is as good as new.
I suspect I had the “swelling battery” issue that aided the breaking of the screen but as the screen was broke the apple store wouldn’t entertain the idea and refused to warranty the watch despite being only 5 weeks old. I may look into getting another as if I fall down I cannot get back up without help from someone.
it’s the watch equivalent of the hunter wellies worn on the London tube.
Of course it is. But then:
It’ll get as much adventure use as 99.9% of most fenix’s and instincts ever made.
Most of the stuff made by the brands mentioned are simply lifestyle/status symbol items anyway. If you ‘need’ such things to toddle around Snowdonia or wherever, then you probably shouldn’t be there anyway. You should never be reliant upon any such electronic devices if you’re going to anywhere truly remote; proper knowledge of what you’re doing, the local terrain and environment, and being able to navigate without such devices will be far more useful in a proper survival situation. So this is no worse a gadget than most other similar devices really. Wearing a Garmin or Suunto etc watch because it’s more of an ‘adventure’ device doesn’t make your penis any larger.
the screen was broke the apple store wouldn’t entertain the idea and refused to warranty the watch despite being only 5 weeks old
That’s shit. Sorry to hear that. Would put me off ever getting another one, that’s for sure. 😕
I think you’re all mad if you don’t think Garmin and the like are threatened by this. Apple will get there with the battery life and last bits of sport tracking stuff in a few more years, and they’ve nailed the stuff that Garmin and Fitbit have never and probably will never figure out on the phone integration and usability stuff.
And as said above, only massive posers need an £850 watch to do their sports with, so perfectly within Apples demographic.
^^^
Exactly. Remember Nokia…
I think you’re all mad if you don’t think Garmin and the like are threatened by this. Apple will get there with the battery life and last bits of sport tracking stuff in a few more years, and they’ve nailed the stuff that Garmin and Fitbit have never and probably will never figure out on the phone integration and usability stuff.
They're partly threatened, but unless Google gets its shit together they've still got a massive market in Android. And of course Garmin and Fitbit will never figure out the phone integration unless antitrust authorities take action and force Apple to open up its phone to 3rd parties.
Garmin, Polar, Sunto, Leyzne, etc will not be worried by Apple’s smart watch offerings.
Maybe not Garmin's biggest worry but other smaller players are and should be really worried. It is not that their products became obsolete immediately but seems the purpose built devices will be harder to sell even if they are better in many respects.
Apple is such a giant these days that it may crush smaller players by accident. Look at Lightning headphone adapter they made - it is cheap, small and has better sound quality than all(?) other devices on the market.
Not a fanboy, just user who wishes Window mobile was still an option.
I brought a series 7 to replace the series 4 I broke the screen on. The series 4 was fine, even nearly 4 years later. I tried a garmin venu, and it sucked as a smar****ch compared to Apple watch (no surprise there, and I was expecting that) but the fitness benefits weren't much better than apple watch ones TBH. The only benefit was the battery, which isn't an issue for me as I don;t wear my watch to bed.
As for having to take phone with you when on a run, I imagine that's if you get the wifi one, and want to make calls. I have the wifi one because I couldn;t justify the data plan costs for how rarely I'm out without my iphone.
I think the apple watch ultra will be good for weekend warriors, who think they are doing something extreme, but make it in time to go to the bar afterwards.
@tonyd For tracking sports best the use an app call ‘workoutdoors’
http://www.workoutdoors.net/
Weird flex but ok
Not really. The vast majority of such devices sold are never used anywhere near genuine wilderness areas, or in actual extreme conditions. Apple know this, and are masters at producing products that fit the market perfectly. Same as most 4x4s never see any actual dirt etc.
I have an Apple Watch (S7). It’s bought it because I thought it would be ‘fun’ to have. IE; it’s a toy. I like it; it actually has helped me become more active and to exercise more. I’m use it on the Tube and buses, for the NFC ‘Oyster card’ function. I use the Apple Pay feature in shops. I can use it as a remote for controlling all sorts of other needless lifestyle gadgets around the house, such as lights, hifi, Apple TV etc. I love it. But then I’m not a Bear Grylls wannabe. Perhaps I’ll buy some Hunter wellies just to go on the Tube. 😀
I think you’re all mad if you don’t think Garmin and the like are threatened by this.
On reflection and having just reread DCR's conclusion to his Venu 2 SQ review Perhaps you have a point:
I worry slightly about how Garmin might handle both some of Apple’s WatchOS 9 features that will shortly come to the Apple Watch SE (like running power and triathlon mode), as well as how a watch like this might compete against new Apple Watch SE hardware, if Apple shifts focus more towards sports as everything indicates.
To date, Garmin has been hesitant to include more endurance sports features in their Venu lineup, instead, shifting that towards the Forerunner/Fenix areas. I’m just not convinced that strategy is going to work over the next 12 months. But, I guess those questions will start to be answered about 6 days from now.
He would have written that having had site of the Apple Ultra so was probably looking at a new rectangular Garmin watch expecting it to have done better on the smart watch side of things and to have more endurance sports features, instead it's probably a better sports watch still but the gaps are noticeable and it's really not a smart watch, it's another fitness/sports watch.
Garmin's problems are software/firmware (as ever) Apple's problem is truly understanding a new (to them) market who, yes will pay a lot, but probably expect a bit more than the tech Bro's and 'Jobsonites', certainly on battery...
so apart from a handlebar mount, where would be good?
seems fine in a pack/bum bag - it's just having your leg between it and the sky that seems to be a problem! Mind you, it's never as accurate a track as from a Garmin Edge
I love my Instinct Solar - hands down the best watch for the stuff I do like kayaking, cycling and walking, but she sure is ugly. Probably wouldn't wear with a suit or in an office job - then an apple watch would be nice. Not sure I see the point of a £850 'rugged' one though. Its like those uber expensive garmin watches that quietly dissappeared when people realised that £1.5k for a watch that would be obsolete in a couple of years wasn't such a great idea.
I love my Instinct Solar – hands down the best watch for the stuff I do like kayaking, cycling and walking, but she sure is ugly
Conversely I love the look of mine, and think that Apple Watches are fugly. But then again I also like G-Shocks, so I'm probably not the best person to comment 😀
I love my Instinct Solar – hands down the best watch for the stuff I do like kayaking, cycling and walking, but she sure is ugly
Conversely I love the look of mine, and think that Apple Watches are fugly. But then again I also like G-Shocks, so I’m probably not the best person to comment 😀
I don't think Apple watches are fugly, they're pretty enough (in a world now full of homogeneous wrist worn rectangles) but I do prefer my instinct as a watch to wear when actually doing stuff, again I own a couple of G-shocks and it's a similar thing.
Again I'm not target market.
I have an Instinct Solar and an Apple Watch 7. I use the Apple one for daily wear, work, walking, swimming, indoor bike, gym. I use the Garmin for outdoor bike, hike, weekends away etc. I use a chest HR for all cycling as need to keep an eye on my HR.
All activities sync between them, and Apple Fitness, Garmin connect and Strava.
Personally I don't think I'd swop the Instinct for the Apple Ultra (unless maybe I didn't have any Apple watch)
I googled some smar****ches as a result of this thread, and found this:
https://www.garmin.com/en-GB/p/700437
I don't play golf. Could I still wear it on the Tube? Can I get one to go with my Hunter wellies? 🙂
I googled some smar****ches as a result of this thread, and found this:
https://www.garmin.com/en-GB/p/700437
I don’t play golf. Could I still wear it on the Tube? Can I get one to go with my Hunter wellies? 🙂
Best of all you didn't even pick The most ridiculously overpriced version and I bet you've got a car so you're allowed to buy the 'driver' version 😉
I guess Apple are still amateurs when it comes to extortionately overpriced, pointless smart watches after all...
Oh wow! 🤣 That's mad.
I guess Apple are still amateurs when it comes to extortionately overpriced, pointless smart watches after all…
£849 now seeming like an absolute bargain, plus it does loads more. And works properly, or has Garmin software reached 'actually useable' levels yet?
I guess the best bit is how totally superfluous a watch is when driving.
The clue with that particular range is the name, it's a descriptor for the target market, slightly misspelled just so they don't notice. It absolutely goes with hunter wellies...
I use my watch for turn by turn directions when driving, it uses vibration patterns for left/right/continue… I often have music playing loud I don’t want to turn down or have interrupted.
That Gamin watch is astounding.
Modern Tool Watch
Well quite
Thinking back to my youth when I was possibly close to a few adventures. There must be a Venn diagram with 2 huge circles that barely overlap. People with time for an adventure people, people with £849 for a watch
I have an instinct and an Apple Watch (possibly the 4). Instinct is fairly new but I have to admit for a Luddite it’s not very intuitive. I’m forever faffing with it.
But for the price I paid, £160 (non solar), I’m happy with it. Records my rides (indoor and out) and heartbeat. I don’t use it for mapping, but imagine that would confuse the socks of me. Battery life is good though….but I’d quite like to be able to pick and choose what alerts I get (only WhatsApp and not email would be good)
Apple Watch is easier to use. But I don’t really like it. Dunno why.
You choose which alerts via the Connect app on the phone.
Settings - Notifications - App Notifications
On IOS Dick there is no App Notification settings.
There are two settings. Allow Push notifications and Email Notifications.
The email notifications is to allow Garmin to email you notifications of your activities.
My girlfriend who has Android has the ability to select what messages to receive.
There is, I have mine set for calls and texts only (iPhone 13 with Instinct solar 2)
has Garmin software reached ‘actually useable’ levels yet?
That’ll be the day!!
Ah sorry, I assumed as it was possible on the android app it would also be possible on the iOS app...obviously not as 'feature rich' (although not sure how much richer it is to be able to select which apps will show alerts on your watch)...
has Garmin software reached ‘actually useable’ levels yet?
Weird how we all differ, isn't it? I don't have any problem with Garmin software. It's all quite neatly set out, just hierarchies of menus that you drill down into to do anything. I suspect it probably means the software was designed (and not just created) by programmers, who find a logical nested tree interface "intuitive".
I was happy with my Garmin Instinct until I was relieved of it. Decided to try the Fenix 6 Pro, and I prefer it to the Instinct.
That was pushing my comfortable spending limit for a watch (£300), no way would I drop eight-hundred notes on a smart watch.
Any more thoughts? I’m half considering one as a replacement for my Fenix 6X Pro.
The 8 looks good though too.