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The new Aluminium Scandal 29er from on one / planet x

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has anyone built one of the orange ones with purple hubs, my heart says do it! but my head's saying nooo! think of the residuals if I need to sell down the line...

I think another concern is if I set off down that route how much more purple ano do I need? I was going to use the black floating rotors I have but I'm thinking that's not going to work...

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Posted : 19/08/2020 11:55 am
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Orange and purple should never be seen unless separated by a clown in between 🤡🤣

Your bike, your choice. You can always strip and sell in parts if its as bad in real life as it is in my head.

On the plus side the orange paint will probably fall at some point although to be fair, mines holding up really well apart from the chain stay! Don't forget to cover that! It just takes one ride


 
Posted : 19/08/2020 12:35 pm
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but what about double deckers! The frame I have doesn't look half as orange IRL as the pics in this thread seem to appear though, it's a kind of orangy-yellow. I suppose I should just do it! I've pined for some purple ano for ages now and always bottled it in favour of more sensible black...


 
Posted : 19/08/2020 1:16 pm
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Didn’t realise until parts started arriving but colours are her national flag. Any guesses?

Argentina, Bahamas and Kazakhstan have turquoise flags IIRC.


 
Posted : 19/08/2020 1:44 pm
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And of course Estonia is blue, black and white...


 
Posted : 19/08/2020 2:16 pm
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And of course Estonia is blue, black and white…

Yep - that is correct. Photo doesn't really show the blues that well, they are generally all like the chainstay cover...


 
Posted : 19/08/2020 2:57 pm
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After initial humming and hawwing I decided to build it up as a hill bike, now I seem to have bought a brand new dropper for it...So; dropper cable routing; where does it come out?


 
Posted : 23/08/2020 1:15 pm
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Near bottom of down tube then external past bottom bracket and back inside seat tube if I remember correctly, easier for fitting than all internal and looks neat.


 
Posted : 23/08/2020 3:08 pm
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I've just been to see if the new orange finished frame stock had arrived over the weekend, not only are they all listed as out of stock now the GX spec is now £999 and the SX spec no longer listed.


 
Posted : 01/09/2020 9:54 am
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Doesn’t surprise me it’s an excellent riding frame !!


 
Posted : 01/09/2020 9:59 am
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Seems you are able to order them now.


 
Posted : 01/09/2020 11:30 am
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How how is it on less challenging terrain. I'm not use to modern geometry. Will it kill less challenging trails in the Chilterns or be fine? Asking for a mate who is making do on a hybrid but wants something more capable


 
Posted : 03/09/2020 10:05 am
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Finally nearly finished on my build and noticed some side-to-side play in the rear wheel (brand new Hunt Trail Wide). After investigating it further, I’ve realised the movement is in the rear bolt through axle (it has play even when fully tightened - like the hole is too big...

Anyone else had this?


 
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Finally nearly finished on my build and noticed some side-to-side play in the rear wheel (brand new Hunt Trail Wide). After investigating it further, I’ve realised the movement is in the rear bolt through axle (it has play even when fully tightened – like the hole is too big…

Anyone else had this?

No - sounds odd. Is there play when there is no wheel in - i.e. the threads aren't cut properly either in the dropout or on the bolt, or the bolt at the none drive side can be moved around in the dropout hole? If the none-drive side bolt hole is oversized it sounds like replacement frame time.


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 6:36 pm
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No – sounds odd. Is there play when there is no wheel in – i.e. the threads aren’t cut properly either in the dropout or on the bolt, or the bolt at the none drive side can be moved around in the dropout hole? If the none-drive side bolt hole is oversized it sounds like replacement frame time.

It’s the non-drive side and there is play when there’s no wheel in (only a bit but I guess it’s amplified when you waggle the wheel at the rim). Sounds like I need to get in touch with PX (and start cursing again at internal routings...!)


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 7:32 pm
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I ordered one of the GX builds last week (glad I didn't procrastinate too much as they've gone up by £200 since!) and I'm looking at getting a few components to go with it.

I need a new set of pedals as I sold my old bike and forgot to remove the pedals before listing it for sale. I had Shimano Saints which were OK, but I fancy something different this time.

A lot of people seem to rate Deity Deftraps, but black ones seem to be as rare as rocking horse poop, so I was toying with getting some in another colour.

Can anyone tell me if the frame colour in real life is similar to the pictures online? I was wondering whether to go crazy and get some lime green pedals and grips if the frame is bright orange, as there are loads of places who have the lime green pedals in stock: Gopping pedals. I have a horrible feeling it'll look shite though! Any alternatives recommended for someone with largish feet (size 11.5).

Also, I'd like to order a dropper ready to fit when it arrives, but I'm not sure how much drop I'll be able to get away with. For reference, I'm 191cm (6'3" ish) with a 92/93cm inseam (36"). Is anyone a similar size to me and if so what size dropper did you go for?


 
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Bright contrasting colours rock go for it 👌🏻


 
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Thanks @Plusone I think I'd rather have the pedals I want in a gopping colour than some other pedals I don't fancy in black. Now to decide between orange or lime green...

Anyone have any advice on dropper Post length?


 
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My off the shelf GX build arrived today (ordered on the 9th and had a build slot allocated for yesterday). So far so good! I can't fault the comms from Planet-X and everything arrived well packaged and undamaged.

It was hard to tell the exact colour from the images online and I was debating over green or orange pedals (see above for the level of gopping I'm talking about!) Anyway, I decided to go for the orange and its not a great match, but I still quite like it.

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I did some rough calcs on dropper length and I wasn't sure I'd get a 200mm post in there so I played it safe and bought a 170mm Ascend post. The price swayed me as I picked one up for £125.99 and the 200mm was £169 when I ordered it. As it turns out I've got 230mm showing but I didn't want to wait to find out!

Just done a quick shakedown ride and it feels really weird as I've been on my gravel bike for the last few months, but it feels playful and I cant wait to take it out properly tomorrow:-)


 
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Finally nearly finished on my build and noticed some side-to-side play in the rear wheel (brand new Hunt Trail Wide). After investigating it further, I’ve realised the movement is in the rear bolt through axle (it has play even when fully tightened – like the hole is too big…

Anyone else had this?

hmm I have noticed the occasional knock in my rear end but assumed it was the dropper. I'll take a closer look some time


 
Posted : 24/09/2020 9:12 pm
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Mini PSA for anyone looking at a Scandal, they are back down to £999 until the 18th Oct. Slightly different spec to when I bought mine (different wheels and tyres etc). Bargain!


 
Posted : 12/10/2020 7:29 pm
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There's a Guy Kes ride video. Spoiler Alert he says it's really good.


 
Posted : 12/10/2020 7:35 pm
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Yes well when does he say any different? If it's not good it doesn't make it onto Utube. He also mentions a titanium version? I bought the Dog instead due to a dodgy back, then I discovered Dropper suspension posts and Brooks sprung saddles... Love my Dog though.


 
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It said at the bottom of the video "Includes paid promotion".......does that mean he's unlikely to say it's a sack of crap?


 
Posted : 12/10/2020 8:07 pm
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I don't think Guy has ever treated a product to anything other than over excited terrier enthusiasm...


 
Posted : 12/10/2020 8:17 pm
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Hmmmm, working his way through the entire range and Titus bikes. Includes paid promotion.

Seems like a nice bloke but I don't trust any of them.


 
Posted : 12/10/2020 11:05 pm
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I bought my Dog due to this forum and his review. I can't argue with anything he said. I'll add that it will climb any rocky ascent that I've got the legs for.


 
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I’m waiting for the frame to come down again; as good a deal as this is.


 
Posted : 14/10/2020 1:20 am
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I’m waiting for the frame to come down again; as good a deal as this is

Sent you a pm ref my frame


 
Posted : 14/10/2020 6:45 am
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The scandal(I got a £250) frame deal. Is a great bike and so well finished with tidy routing etc.


 
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I don't know if this has been done but sizing - the scandal and big dog are supposed to the long low and slack. I was looking at the geo and size guides. If you are around 5'7" they recommend either small or medium but small has a reach of 415, which is shorter than most for that height of rider. Given Brants comment about people riding bikes that are too big for them, how did owners choose the size?


 
Posted : 14/10/2020 3:50 pm
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@cromolyolly im at the opposite end to you. I'm 6ft3 and I buy the biggest frame available.

When bikes just do small, medium and large I don't even bother with them as I've been burned before with a bike that's just too small.

Sometimes bikes come in XXL like the santa cruz tall boy. That fitted me and XL felt too small. I ride a XL stump jumper but they did that in XXL too but I went XL so that I could manhandle it easier.

Size and fit is a personal preference, what works for one doesn't work for someone else. Normally I advise you go sit on one but not possible at the moment with a scandal.

What are you riding at the moment? Have you matched the geometry against different size scandals?

I like to use this website when looking at new frames. Add the right size scandal, then pick your current frame and click compare.

https://geometrygeeks.bike/bike/planet-x-on-one-scandal-2019/

Just double check the data already input is correct!


 
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but

I ordered one of the GX builds last week (glad I didn’t procrastinate too much as they’ve gone up by £200 since!)

At that point they had no mech hangars listed.
I couldn't understand why anyone would buy a bike you couldn't replace the mech hangar.

After investigating it further, I’ve realised the movement is in the rear bolt through axle (it has play even when fully tightened – like the hole is too big…

Anyone else had this?

^ ????


 
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@damascus. Thanks. I've had a bunch of bikes, none of them claimed to be long low or slack. I had a Kona unit in 17 (medium). It had a reach of 16.8" iirc but it was rigid so wasn't going to get any longer with sag. I looked at the Sonder Signal and Neil recommended the medium for me (he is similar dimensions and designs the medium to fit him) that's 17.3" reach.
I just assumed I'd be a M in the scandal/big dog. Then I read Brants comment about people riding bikes that are too big, so thought I should follow the recommended sizing - except that would out me on a "long" bike that was .5" shorter than most bikes I've had in the past, except my 1990 mtb.
I should look at ett too, since steeper seat tubes seem common now, which makes longer reach for the same ett.


 
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I'm 5' 8" and got a medium Dog. You'd think it would fit but, with the dropper post it came with I was 1cm less than the minimum insertion point. I've got long arms as well so I wouldn't want reach to be any shorter, nor the head tube which now has a mild riser bar and 4cm of spacers. Height is a pretty crude guide, not a rule.


 
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Loving mine more and more. It has been wetter than an otter's pocket here last couple of week. It is ace in the slop.


 
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Hi.
I'm could also do with some help on sizing. I'm 5'7" so right between S and M sizes...any recommendations?

Coming from a 2008 Giant Anthem, which bears no relation (pre-dates stack/reach geometry charts. 574mm top tube; 110mm stem; 26" wheels), this looks like a good way to try something more "modern".

I note it's not a full GX build - the cassette is 11-50 PG-1210 (NX). Is the rear hub upgradeable to an XD driver in the future?

thanks.


 
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PSA for px bikes. The scandal is currently £999 which is £200 off. New offer is an extra 10% off everything which is automatically applied making the scandal, big dog and whippet £899. No idea if it's supposed to work or not so get in quick.

COUPON DISCOUNT % OFF
COUPON: 10% OFF EVERYTHING ENDS MIDNIGHT 16/10 (EXCLUDES FLASH DEALS AND VOUCHERS) class="save" £100.00 OFF

Code LCVIP 1510


 
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What sizes are people / their bikes and how do they ride? I’m 5’10 and have pushed buy on a GX Medium build but I’m in between sizes so not sure if I should be m or l?
Currently ride an anthem sx in medium


 
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The large is big, the xl is really big.

Brant designed these originally as a small, medium and large and then px added the xl on.


 
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XL frames are supposed to be big, the problem is too many aren't big enough. I've posted this pic before, an XL Scandal vs a c.2011 XL 26er Cannondale. Bit longer, yeah, but I was running a 100mm stem on the Cannondale.
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@mooseface I’m the same height and got a medium, the large would have been far too big for me... I’ve had large in most of my previous bikes, except my current Sentry and the Scandal.


 
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@steamtb thanks for the info I think I’ll stick with the M, do you run a dropper what and what size?


 
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I have a problem with undersized bikes as well. I'm 6'3" with ape arms and a 35" inseam and struggle to find the right fit.
After a XL Scandal but not paying £700-£800 for a frame!!

Cheers

Mike


 
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@mooseface yes, I just put a 125mm brand x on there which is fine 🙂


 
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