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I'm not worried about it. I paid with PayPal who always side with buyers.
Anyway unless it's not as described or damaged in the post it will prob sell on here for the price paid if I change my mind.
Another email to say my order has been fulfilled, still not sure whether my Schrödinger's Scandal will appear though.
Take a screen shot of the sales page in case you need a warranty. Also check their T&C to see if it says anything about sale items? Screen shot that too
@Blokeuptheroad I've had a dispatch email, might be worth checking your account or contacting them unless you've had one as well.
@akira thanks for letting me know. No despatch email here, I'll call them in the morning. Selling the same frame to two separate customers is some pretty bizarre cock up. Gutted, I may have a unused set of Rockshox Reba 130mm forks for anyone doing a Scandal build. 🙁
Hopefully they sort you out with something, trying to find some Yari or Revs in boost 130 currently.
Got my £125 scandal, gear hanger poking out of box, standard planet x. Looks straight though.
Paid Saturday PM received Monday PM, must be the fastest planet x fulfillment ever.
Frame has more minor damage than 2 chips mentioned. Has had a headset fitted and removed.
Included the rear axle.
Tried to phone them about mine first thing this morning. No phone number, just a web enquiry form. Sent that off with the info from Akira that we both appeared to have bought and paid for the same frame. No answer except a message saying it is taking them much longer than normal to get around to answering queries. This is turning out to be a less than joyous experience.
Well tbh I bought mine on a whim. FOMO a bargain as it were. So if there's no frame for you I could possibly be persuaded out of mine if I've not had the motivation to build it in the next week or two.
Weighed it, size large bare frame without axle but with gear hanger comes in at 1.93kg!
That's lighter than expected!
Px have pretty good products but customer service isn't one of them. But that's why they are cheap.
I just can't understand why they are still sending frames out in boxes that aren't fit for purpose! How many mech hangers and headtubes have to stick out and get damaged before they take some pride in their packaging?
I'm sure I paid £20 postage for mine and the headtube was sticking out.
Do they just not give a shit?
I’m sure I paid £20 postage for mine and the headtube was sticking out.
Do they just not give a shit?
Presumably it keeps the box under whatever dimension the courier has price break at. They must have sold hundreds of Scandal frames and seems only a handful get damaged (based on the idea that the 99.9% who got a pristine frame haven't complained). I suppose you could also argue that unless you built masses of padding into the box then a bot of cardboard isn't going to make much difference anyway.
@wzzzz that is really good of you thanks. Mine was a medium, not sure how I would get on with a large, I'm 5'9½". May take you up on it though depending on their response if and when they reply, thanks! 🙂
My scandal frame came in a really solid box well packaged. Maybe it’s pot luck !
I worked as a courier for 12 years and picked up from many of the larger courier companies and boy did I see boxes launched around or what !!!
If it helps with dealing with planet X my frame is sitting in my lounge, just in case they try and waffle and say it'll be with you but they're very busy.
If buying a new chainset (SLX), does anyone know the best version to get – m7100 (52mm chainline, boost or non-boost) or m7120 (55mm, boost only). I can see the SLX full bike uses the m7120 crank but the GX full bike has a 52mm chainline…
Or does it make no difference? (Not done the boost thing before!) Wheels will be boost hubs.
I can see the chainline for the m7000 boost is 153mm, so the m7100 (52mm chainline) should be ok with 32t round chainring… but I’m just wondering why PX spec the 55mm chainline m7120. Is that just what they had or would it be better?
Just to answer my earlier question on page 19 (in case it helps anyone else) - an SLX M7100 crank won't fit (not even close - would need 2 spacers on driveside to stop crank arm hitting chainstay, but then there isn't enough spindle poking through to attach the NDS crank arm). So I'll have to sell the M7100 crank and get hold of an M7120 (which I assume must fit as PX spec then on the SLX bikes).
@rod, whats the difference in q factor?
My xtr m9000 wouldn't fit but m9020 fits fine.
I'm guessing m7100 has a shorter q factor than m7120
@damascus - yeah, the M7120 is 178mm Q-factor and 55mm chainline. The M7100 is 172mm Q-factor and 52mm chainline.
Hi there. Anyone found a lever version of the rear axle to fit the scandal?
The website says it's one of these
148 BOOST M12 x 1.75, 12mm thread, 169mm
Well thats an issue. I bought the M7100 groupset with the m7100 crank.
Seems weird you have to by a 2x crankset for it to fit
Well thats an issue. I bought the M7100 groupset with the m7100 crank.
Seems weird you have to by a 2x crankset for it to fit
M7120 is still a 1x crank/
@bigreg, I posted about the rear maxle on about page 14 ish which shows pictures side by side.
I bought a ktm one to replace mine and its been spot on. Its slightly longer than the oo rear maxle but it works fine.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223324807576
KTM 12 x 148 mm Boost Through Axle Thru Axle M12 x 1.75 Thread
Looks like they've run out of 35 forks? Complete builds are currently only being offered with Judy Silver TK which seems inferior on every aspect. 30 vs. 35mm, steel vs. aluminium, Solo Air vs. DebonAir, TurnKey vs. Motion Control.
@blokeuptheroad, there's a Medium on Classifieds at the moment if you haven't sorted a frame.
@hamishthecat thanks for the heads up. Still waiting on the final word from PX but I have another frame lined up ta 👍
Any thoughts on the SLX equipped finished bikes, once I'm getting out more I think a switch to a 29er from my C456 might be a good idea, I'm also looking at the Ragley Big Al.
Fork and tyres bit pants, slx stuff and finishing kit not a problem. Wheels okay but a bit cheap and heavy, needs dropper though. You'll be luck to get a Big Al but comparable frame, better fork, deore obviously not as good as slx but meh, same level of wheels and better tyres. Also needs dropper.
The fork does look like a massive weakness. Not so much the stanchions (I don't think you need ultimate stiffness on a hard tail) but the downgraded damping. I'm finding the 35 great for the money.
The rest I'm not so sure, GX has been really sensitive to setup and I've always preferred Shimano. But it shifts nicely, and it doesn't weigh any more than XT.
The Fulcrum wheels aren't the widest or lightest and I've just discovered can't take 6-bolt adapters.
The guide brakes are underwhelming. But I'd planned to solve that with big rotors and better pads.
Looking at the spec, I'd wait till they get 35's or frame only's back in stock. For £1200 you can (as long as you have some spare finishing kit or other bits or even a donor bike) easily build something comparable.
I'm sort of looking for a complete bike, all my hard-tails have been bista bikes dating right back to my geared Inbred so there's little modern stuff to transfer on to a new frame.
I'm slightly confused about the Rockshox 35, I thought it was a step up from the Recon RL?
I’m slightly confused about the Rockshox 35, I thought it was a step up from the Recon RL?
The Rockshox 35 is a step up from the Recon RL, however Planet X havee changed the spec of their builds and are not currently supplying the Scandal with the 35s. It currently comes with Rockshox Judy Silver TK.
A bit of a minor PSA for anyone who has one and want's to upgrade the brakes, as trying to do it with the bits in the spares box turned into a major PITA.
6-bolt rotors will not fit fulcrum wheels. Every other brand has the lockring threads internal, campag put them on the outside which means they foul the center of the disk if you try to mount them with adapters. You could file down the center of the disk I suppose, but that's your teeth! Also don't lose the lock rings for the same reason.
A 'triangular' PM-PM +20m mount won't fit in the rear triangle. But the smaller ones do.
Not this one.
This one.
A 200mm disk will fit in the back, but it might depend on how thick the rivets are if it's a floating rotor as they will pass close to the mounts on the chainstay. A generic 160-203 PM-PM mount won't fit on the frame though, you'll have to file the corner off the mount to clear it.
If you want to run a Shimano (or other 203mm rotor) on the front you'll need some washers as it's a 180mm mount on the fork so a +20 is too small and +25 is too big. I found 1 washer under the mount and 1 under the caliper was about right. 180-203 mounts probably do exist somewhere but by this point I'd lost the will to live.
I've got a 220mm front rotor waiting, but will fit a wheel with torque caps before that!
Got a pile of rotors and mounts so hoping blind luck means some combination works. Just waiting for forks and tyres.
Anybody decided they don’t want their carbon fork? If so I’m after one.
So starting to plan to build up my wife's new scandal (bought pre baby to be built post baby!).
Looking at setting up SLX level (however mixing in kit I have already got).
Reading as much above as possible, realise I need to get a crankset with a Q factor of at least 178mm - ie SLX 7120. However to save costs I am thinking of going 11 speed without micro spline - can I run an 11 speed cassette and chain on a 12 speed crankset / chainring? I also read that chainlink is important - looks like it again needs to be over 55mm - presuming a FC-M7130-1 should be ok then?
Is there an option to fit a boost chainring to an existing crankset?
Built mine up, went alright except for the usual issues. Had to do some funny routing as rear brake cable too short and didn't have a spare, also was going to bodge external dropper post but don't think it would work with partial internal routing without snagging the back tyre when dropped.
A quick heads up for anyone who missed out on the cheap Scandal frames.
I've aborted my build to part fund a full-sus so selling frame and fork for £400 over in the classifieds here.
Needs to be collected from S. Yorks though.
Anyone else mentioned the rear brake mounting? The rear bolt is bloody tight to get to in the triangle, difficult for caliper alignment.
Yeah just running 160mm and had to use ball end Allen key and even then in was a bit of a faff. Brake mount on seat stays was much easier to deal with, guess for internal routing and looks chainstay works well but it's a pain. Mines a medium but I'm guessing a small would be even more awkward to adjust.
Anyone having any issues with gear set up. Running ten speed Shimano and it's just refusing to work properly. Shifter shifts fine and I can see cable moving, cable moves through freely, I can move mech physically up and down the block. Then when I put it all together I shift three or four times before it moves up or down. I can see the cable moving at the shifter end but nothing happens at the mech end.
That's potentially some crazy outer compression. Have you got all your cable ends cut neatly and ferrules pushed fully on?
Have you mounted the rear mech with the attachment linkage pointing straight back/horizontal? Sometimes it's easy to get it angled wrong. Have you got the cable clamped right in the mech clamp bolt? Sometimes easy to pass it on the wrong side of the bolt.
Yeah think it might be outer compression. Everything else I've discounted. Might try new outer tomorrow.
Did your frame arrive with the dropout sticking through the box?
All good now, replaced old outer that I had on the shed and could have been anything with shiny new orange Shimano outer and it's all good. Rear brake needs bled but that's another evening.
As per my question above, just wondering if anyone had any advice on mixing the 11 speed cassette and chain with a 12 speed crankset / chainring....?
Looking at setting up SLX level (however mixing in kit I have already got).
Reading as much above as possible, realise I need to get a crankset with a Q factor of at least 178mm – ie SLX 7120. However to save costs I am thinking of going 11 speed without micro spline – can I run an 11 speed cassette and chain on a 12 speed crankset / chainring? I also read that chainlink is important – looks like it again needs to be over 55mm – presuming a FC-M7130-1 should be ok then?
Not sure if there's anything specific about the 12 speed chainrings, but that always worked fine in the past.
On an unrelated note, I've fitted the SLX M7120 crankset now and it's fine. Still not masses of clearance between the crankarm and chainstay but enough.
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Scandals been ace on my local trails. Running SS with a set of 130mm Rebas and it's been great fun. Light, simple and quiet. The Bontrager XR1 tyres on 30mm rims are incredibly fast rolling in the dry weather we've had, but are hopeless when they get a wif of rain. One of the best bikes I've had and far better than the Cotic SolarisMax LS.