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Does anyone have a clue what discoduck's point is?
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Don't be pathetically gratefull !
Join in and help Coach the team ? It's not difficult and having played the game yourself your skills knowledge and little tricks will become invaluable, I've given up my Sundays for the past 3 years to coach the team my 9 year old plays in, its stopped me riding my bike on a Sunday morning and I get to strut about on the pitch in shorts with all the fit mums laughing at my legs !!!!!!!
The attitude of some people staggers me, it's as if all motorists are out to kill cyclists and should always go out of their way to accommodate you, courtesy is a two way thing, and as nice as it is for some of you to post excerpts from the highway code, we all know that best practice and following the recommended guidance isn't always possible, and isn't always necessary.
We're all road users, all entitled to our bit of road, and I'm as enraged as anyone by dangerous driving, but as both a cyclist and driver I can see both sides of the argument, and for me it's not clear cut, not all drivers are the devil, and the majority of cyclists I see on the road could learn a LOT.
, it's as if all motorists are out to kill cyclists and should always go out of their way to accommodate you
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I know, I feel the same about people wearing Goretex who aren't professional mountaineers. Bloody Chris Bonnington wannabees. Probably dreaming they're climbing Everest when they're just wandering about Snowdonia 😀I have an unhealthy hatred towards any one who is NOT a professional rider wearing Lycra
Or maybe they're wearing it because it's suitable for the task in hand?
(Excluding the dick I saw wearing full Sky rainbow jersey kit. And no, it wasn't Cav, unless he's let himself go a bit)
What's wrong with ventile ? And this is only my opinion I don't expect any one to agree, Gore-tex is shit !
Great if you want to stand round looking good shit if you have to conduct any kind of excercise in it !
Try Rugby !
Bloodgate, biting, gouging?
Good call.
Thank you sir !
No arguing and name calling, stood up one minuite flat on your back the next, then after the final whistle stood in the bar buying each other a pint !
If the ref says its an infringement then its an infringement, not oooooh let's gang up on the one with the spindly legs and see if we can sway his decision making !
No arguing and name calling, stood up one minuite flat on your back the next, then after the final whistle stood in the bar buying each other a pint !
Nah, instead they just try to blind each other, or mutilate each other's genitals. Role models to be sure.
lemonysam - Member
oi - you stole my line!
Aracer - I posted 3 anecdotes as otherwise I could have written a book!
For balance on my commute home tonight I ride along a stretch of singletrack road - just about enough space for a transit and a bike at its widest. A pair of MAMIL's come round a blind corner towards me 2 a breast. If I'd been in a car even doing 5 mph they'd have hit me.
On the other hand there was a taxi driver with a cup of coffee in one hand and his phone clamped to his ear with the other.
I'd say a score draw for tonight!
However at least motorists have to pas a test of competence even if they then sometimes ignore the rules. A cyclist can go down a rural A road with the ability to do nothing more than ride without stabilisers!
There is a generation of riders now who missed cycling proficiency and Bikeability and their riding is scary! I wouldn't support mandatory training as a bike should be about freedom, but a good number of riders out there could really do with something to help them stay alive.
On the plus side the vast, vast majority of road users do try very hard not to hit each other, hence the relative lack of incidents.
Interesting situation on the way home from work. Guy jumps a red light in London Queen Victoria Street. Two mounted police (on horses that is) ride out in front of him. Stop him and give him an instant fine. Would have been a sight if he decided to try and make a run (or cycle) for it - two police on horseback galloping after him........
However at least motorists have to pas a test of competence even if they then sometimes ignore the rules.
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A pair of MAMIL's come round a blind corner towards me 2 a breast. If I'd been in a car even doing 5 mph they'd have hit me.
Or more likely they'd have heard you coming.
On the other hand there was a taxi driver with a cup of coffee in one hand and his phone clamped to his ear with the other.
I'd say a score draw for tonight!
Interesting scoring system. Some MAMILs who could have scratched some paintwork versus an inattentive professional driver who could have killed someone.
However at least motorists have to pas a test of competence...
Doesn't seem to have done much good though does it, based on your score tonight.
I'm not against cycle training. It's a good thing. But given that drivers are at fault in 68% of car/bike accidents, whereas cyclists are at fault in 20%, I have to wonder if you are pushing for the right group to get extra training?
the idiotic cyclist thread
149 posts & 77 voices | Started 1 day ago by yunki
Reporting for duty, sir.
not much experience of city cyclists but I do get annoyed at roadies with 2 million lumen lights aimed straight at my face, on flash (which is illegal?).
a lot of people seem to be justifying riding like a t*** because some car drivers do it too... sounds a bit like primary school to me. Surely your conversation is never too important to do the considerate, safest thing and pull into single file whilst a car goes past?
I ride to uni on a bus lane, solves a lot of these problems - theyre great! (probably change my view if I had a car down there 😉 )
rsl1 - MemberSurely your conversation is never too important to do the considerate, safest thing and pull into single file whilst a car goes past?
Missing the point much? Riding 2 abreast lets you control the lane and prevents people from trying to squeeze past you. As discussed up the page... Highway Code says give bikes as much space as you would a car, but hardly anybody actually does that... But often, if there's not space to pass 2 bikes side by side, then there's not space to safely pass one bike.
rsl1 - Member
Surely your conversation is never too important to do the considerate, safest thing and pull into single file whilst a car goes past?
Driver pulls out to pass line of cyclists then pulls back into the line when a car comes the other way...
im talking empty country road here, riding two abreast would surely mean even moving fully into the opposite lane, the car is very close to the outer bike - you're forcing people to squeeze past whereas there is plenty of space if in single file.
2 cyclists wheel on wheel are the length of a car... I've never felt the need to 'pull back into' the side of a car as I pass. I suppose you can't escape that there are bad drivers who will do that though.
im talking empty country road here
A road which is so narrow that cars have to squeeze past cars coming in the opposite direction? If not, then there is plenty of room for a car to overtake cyclists riding two abreast - have you not noticed that cyclists riding two abreast are a lot narrower than a car and only take up about half a normal carriageway, so if the car does go into the opposite lane it will give the outer cyclist more room than most drivers give a single cyclist when overtaking.
I've never felt the need to 'pull back into' the side of a car as I pass.
Neither do most drivers - partly because they won't try to overtake another car in a situation where that might become necessary, partly because they're conscious of the over car being there and don't want to dent theirs. Neither of which considerations apply when they overtake cyclists for many drivers.
I suppose you can't escape that there are bad drivers who will do that though.
Congratulations, I think you might have got the point.
I do despair a bit that even on a forum supposedly for cyclists people still don't get that singling out isn't actually safer for cyclists or helpful for drivers (unless of course they're prepared to overtake dangerously, in which case we come back to the first point) - even when the point has already been explained several times in the same thread!
we all know that best practice and following the recommended guidance is[s]n't[/s] always possible, and is[s]n't[/s] always necessary.
Any other approach is the vehicle operator/road user making it up as he/she goes along. Don't interpret the "rules" that's for the law to do.
There's also the idiot cyclist who didn't charge his lights before the commute home last night.
Pillock. ( I had a little flasher light from potters bar to home) 😳
Don't interpret the "rules" that's for the law to do.
Except for the rules that are utter nonsense. Feel free to ignore those ones 😀
However at least motorists have to pas a test of competence even if they then sometimes ignore the rules. A cyclist can go down a rural A road with the ability to do nothing more than ride without stabilisers!
Here is just one of the reasons why motorists have to pass a test, and cyclists don't.
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Stats on people killed [b]on pavements[/b] by motor vehicles are particularly horrible. For every (vanishingly rare) pedestrian killed by a cyclist on a pavement, there are over *150* pavement deaths caused by motorists.
The couple of people in the cycling club I ride with who stop in the middle of the road at junctions
Sounds like exactly the right thing to be doing tbh.
I meant whilst waiting for the rest of the group to catch up, thus blocking the junction for other road users (rather than stopping at the side of the road in single-file).
Road Captains !
seen yesterday in Sheffield:
a cyclist, riding down a busy pavement, not-quite in control.
yes, it was a policeman, on a 'police bike'.
Well if he's not quite in control then he probably shouldn't be on the road either 🙂
I believe the police guidance suggests that officers turn a blind eye to cyclists on the pavement if they are clearly inexperienced and/or the road is unsuitable for them.
Didn't realise this extended to their own officers though 😆
Would have been a sight if he decided to try and make a run (or cycle) for it - two police on horseback galloping after him........
I saw two mounted police chasing a car on Glasgow:
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They got him too 😉
Awesome.
Are mounted officers required to shout "Nee-Naw Nee-Naw" when in pursuit?
And where do they stick the blue lights on the horses??
Are mounted officers required to shout "Nee-Naw Nee-Naw" when in pursuit?
Neigh.
Interesting scoring system. Some MAMILs who could have scratched some paintwork versus an inattentive professional driver who could have killed someone.
Interesting that you think I was more concerned that someone might get a scratched car than my actual concern which was that a MAMIL doing 30mph would hit a car doing maybe 20mph and kill himself.
At 30mph they would no way hear a car coming towards them due to the wind in the ears - I ride that road the other way in the mornings going to work and that corner is blind and you hear nothing.
With the HC thing about giving a bike as much space as you would a car, does that mean that you should pretend the bike is as wide as a car, or that if you would pass a car with say 80cm between you then you should give a bike 80cm of room as well? Not arguing either way, just curious as it seems ambiguous.
The HC does come with pictures to help you with stuff like that. If you bothered to read the whole thread it might help...
I agree that the HC text is ambiguous, especially as the supporting picture is quite clear. It seems almost to be written to give drivers a defence.
Bloody cyclists: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sheppey-crossing-crash-kent-pileup--involving-up-to-100-vehicles--leaves-more-than-200-hurt-8799266.html
The HC does come with pictures to help you with stuff like that. If you bothered to read the whole thread it might help...
I find the picture confusing as well tbh. If there were 2 cyclists in that picture (or another car) then overtaking on that road would be impossible without the offside wheels being on the grass verge.
So has anyone else experienced an on the spot fine for misdemeanours on a bike? Seems to be an increasing trend in Portsmouth!
[url= http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/hundreds-fined-in-pavement-cycling-clampdown-1-4514128 ]Portsmouth Local[/url]
On a charity ride last Sunday..
We were funnelled onto a cycle path from a roundabout.. Guy on beach cruiser / fat tyre style bike cuts across me at last second. I manage to avoid him and suggest he might look before making any sudden moves..
He replies "I'm just trying to enjoy the ride"
When I mentioned that my enjoyment of the same ride could be curtailed by getting knocked off by someone else's last second swerves he apologised: for not having eyes in his arse!
Wasn't quite sure how to respond to his Stephen Fry like wit so just rode away from him
Earlier in the summer i saw what i thought was UTTER STUPIDITY....
Riding through the centre of town, on the main road, a mother, riding with a tag on + child. OK, not a problem usually!, except that she had a dog attached to her h.bars 😯
Not a small dog either !!!!
Shook head in dissbeliefe 🙄
Cycling with kids and dogs, eh? They have a word for that in Holland: "Cycling"
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Christ she's not even wearing a helmet! And neither is the dog! And where's her high viz??
I can only assume that seconds after this photo was taken they were both horribly killed. 😉
Nope I'll tell you what happened !
Some one saw her ! Thought how disgustingly perverse her none helmet wearing nonchalance was and the fact that she wore a cap was making a mockery of the whole affair !
They daren't say anything to her for fear of confrontation but then went home logged onto their favoured cycling site "tuliptyrebashers" and tried to disgrace her because she dared not conform !
Highway Code says give bikes as much space as you would a car, but hardly anybody actually does that... But often, if there's not space to pass 2 bikes side by side, then there's not space to safely pass one bike.
And Rule 66 states that you should only ride in single file on narrow roads.
It's called manners, something which 90% of the population seem to be sadly lacking these days.
Yesterday coming back from Brighton to Lewes on A27 kept pace with a cyclist in front who was going a good speed. Didn't get too close and didn't have an 11th gear to overtake. Caught him going uphill and he waved me on which I thought was pretty cool and said so.
When I got into Lewes and traffic there was a bike cop who I cycled past and before stopping at a red light. The earlier cyclist then sails by me and through the red light. I turn back to look at the cop and shrug. Catch up with the cyclist and overtake and at the next traffic stop he swoops past me again and this time onto the pavement. Turn back to look at the cop and smile, and he takes off and collars the guy. I know this shouldn't give me any satisfaction but when you ignore all the rules other road users follow you increase my chances of being taken out by some driver that sees you and thinks all cyclists are scum.