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Lots of love for White Room!
Not many going with TA yet. They seemed to be much quieter in 2013 than 2012. Hope things are ok for them.
White Room.
I've just started considering an MTB holiday in the alps and been surprised by how expensive the fligts are. Manchester to Geneva is basically £300 pp with EasyJet once the extra costs are added on for the bike and hold luggage. This is all assuming EasyJet reverse their ridiculous 23Kg bike limit!
Any cheaper options? Not a massive fan of driving as the Mrs doesn't like to drive over there.
Fly and hire, the White Rooms bikes were really good.
Usually go to the White Room, last year was total amazeballs. Guides were great, Pat sat in dog poo, Alex ripping the trails, Stevo Whooping and a bunch of great Scots.. Also found my love of full on DH riding. Going to be hard to follow that this year... Probably going to hire an RV and hit Utah/Moab.
Pat sat in dog poo,
Ha ha, Pat crashed balls first into a rock and then later in the week blew his tyre off the rim with his head next to it trying to get it to seat tubeless. He's pure comedy gold.
Austria. Leogang, Saalbach/Hinterglemm and hopefully some new stuff in Maria Alm.
Great riding and I have a place there. 😛
[url= http://www.apartmentamade.com/ ]Apartment Amade - Maria Alm, Austria.[/url]
Probably Destination X with TA this year (did TA Les Arcs 2 years back to back, a few yrs ago). Did Chatel, PDS last year. Wont be going back to PDS again. Trouble is Whistler ruined us for the bike park experience (Chatel is knackered, Les Gets was good but a mission to get to, Morzine was OK, liked Morgins (once it had dried out) but, really we all thought it was a bit .....meh!). So ditching the big bikes this summer and off in search of some natural trails with pedaling and uplift, hence Destination X.
Austria. Leogang, Saalbach/Hinterglemm and hopefully some new stuff in Maria Alm.
Great riding and I have a place there.Apartment Amade - Maria Alm, Austria.
Interested!
Doing a week in AdH for the mega and nipping over Les Deux Alpes for a day or so. Then, hopefully, driving up to PDS for a few weeks and eating nothing but pizza.
Only been PDS once before and for nowhere near long enough. Can't wait!
Possibly going to Chatel, maybe for PPDS / to visit friends who moved there. (will be taking/hiring a bike).
Also St Sebastian is on the cards, again to visit friends and it would be rude no to take a bike and ride some of them lumps they got there.
2 weeks in PDS (mostly Les Gets) riding DH tracks with my son - him on DH bike me on my Liteville. Possibly 1 but hopefully 2 long weekend trips to Molini.
Currently debating what to do. Been with the mountain bike chalet a few years ago. Last year i missed out but mates booked an independent chalet and hired a guide for 3 days. They preferred this
Like the look of the white room but probably looks too structured.
Has anyone got the train to bourg?
The direct train from London only runs in the winter, so in the summer it means a few changes. OK in principle, but it could mean dragging a bike box across London and then Paris as you change between stations.
2 weeks touring around the usual resorts and trails, then 5 weeks working on the bike in Chamonix. Maybe finsih off with a trip to Andorra afterwards.
..oh, and then 1 month in Utah / Colorao / Arizona. Gotta do the Mega, the Maxi and The Whole Enchilada in the same year.
.....and that's after a 3 week trip to Scotland.
Aint sabbaticals amazing!!!!!
Trans Provence tour for me!
mrhoppy
Pat sat in dog poo,
Ha ha, Pat crashed balls first into a rock and then later in the week blew his tyre off the rim with his head next to it trying to get it to seat tubeless. He's pure comedy gold.
And not to mention going pretty spectacularly OTB just about 5feet into the first bit of single track on day 1 after leaving the Land Rover!
At that point i thought, "blimey, these white room guides are really not mincing around" 😉
Sounds amazing, I'll change my plans
Between Pat and Yvan, I think White Room could probably assemble 2 normal guides 😆 Loved riding with those guys.
Pat at WR is hilarious , we had to pluck him from a trail when all I could see was the top of his crash hat... he isn't slow by any means. Alex on that Orange 29er made everything look so easy , then it was your go 😯
Lake Garda is in the Alps.... :/ personally i find the place a bit over-hyped. spent lots of time down there with work and have had a chance to ride many trails in the area.
my feeling is, is that if you have a big bike with 6-8" of squish and double ply tyres then you're laughing. the trails are very rocky. i like technical rocky riding, but 1000m descent of thump-thump-thump gets bit boring and tiring (DB Alpine w/Lyrik). after a few days you begin to get the feeling it is all a bit samey. not that the riding is overly hard, you just never get that "flow-zone" feeling. there are some gems, like up above Pregasina, where there is more flow/speed but they are the exception rather than the norm.
if you've not got a big bike and don't like long rocky descents, you may not like it
As always, I guess it depends what you're after. I've done a couple of weeks in Garda and really really rate the place, mainly for the reasons Alpin finds in "a bit samey", i.e. those long thump-thump-thump descents that are punishing but great fun on that big bouncy bike with dual plys 😉
To continue with the opposing view, I'd have said the stuff below Pregasina (vecchio Porto Ponale, etc) was much more interesting than the stuff higher up. Bottom sections of the 601 are the same too. Think Sweary Northener Hebden Bridge-esque tech' that just goes on for milesssss..... 😀
The best bit about TWR weeks is that you don't have to be awesome at riding your bike, in fact, often, it's the slightly less than awesome bits that you remember, and laugh about the most:
Luckily, with about 1,000,000 hairpins per trail, by the end of the week you'll be good at them!
^^ ridden 601 a few times.... not an easy trail as such, but not massively wow or tricky, just hard work on a hardtail. or as you say, punishing 🙂 had to carry the bike once, but there were a lot of guys carrying their big bikes down sections that were a little naddgery.
the 429 above Pregasina from Passo Guil is one of my favourite trails.
Vinschgau has more to offer in the way of riding, IME. it hasn't got that "wow" factor of sitting by the lake drinking (overpriced) beer, either, but you can tweak almost every ride so that it ends at the Bierkeller.
if i were a road inclined then Arco/Riva/torbole would definitely be a good place to base your holiday. lots of long, twisty climbs with amazing views on very quiet roads.
Anyone on here been with Rivierabike?....
Poor Pat, I feel quite bad about that now. At least there are no videos of his transparent pants at the swimming lake.
yeah losing my alpine virginity this year in august and wondering where to go so any suggestions would be helpful.
the group is swaying towards Les Arcs, but we are taking the WAGs and they are more interested in walking so a mixture of flowing singletrack (for us) and nice views and pretty villages (for the better halfs)
Deux Alps has been suggested, we are also driving so needs to be fairly easy to get to from uk
The best riding in Les Arcs is on the numerous and scenic footpaths - go for it!
thanks Wallop, cant wait, already my mind is wondering to sunnier days - hurry up summer i'm bored of winter now
Umm not sure yet. May go back to the White room as it was excellent or maybe Veriber and go back to the White room another year. We were at White room last year but it was really good. I think me and the GF need to have a tough evening or 2 making some decisions.
As we want to go for 2 weeks we are looking for somewhere else for a few days on the way home that doesnt need a guide and isnt Morzine as we have been lots and want a break from it
[i]Dave, have a look at the area around Zell am See.[/i]
Ta! I'll put it on the list...
Those coming to BC and flying peasant class, Air Transat/Canadian Affair, who haven't booked fights. I heard yesterday that flights might be going up soon to account for the Canadian Dollar tanking.
That said, the Canadian dollar is expected to drop more so either way your GBP will go a bit further out here this year.
Dave - Moderator
Dave, have a look at the area around Zell am See.Ta! I'll put it on the list...
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I've put a bit of info together for the area here.
[url= http://www.apartmentamade.com/summer.shtml ]http://www.apartmentamade.com/summer.shtml[/url]
JEngledow - Member
Andy R, Where are you staying and are you riding on your own or with a guide? I noticed an advert for mountainbiking (I think as it was all in Greek) in Kardamili a few years ago and have fancied it ever since!
I'll be in Platsa, (about 15 kms south of Kardamili and at about 400 metres) as we're fortunate enough to have a house there.
There's a place in Kardamili called 2407m Mountain Activities that offer some guided mountain biking and hiking stuff but I've never used them and just explore on my own - I've got a fair knowledge of the area as we've had our house in Platsa for eight years.
Any more info you need don't hesitate to email me.
godzilla - Member
Awesome! See you there Andy.
Me, or another Andy?
We're thinking somewhere in the Morzine region but looking for long weekend rather than a full week (Family holiday to consider afterwards)
Can anyone suggest somewhere in Morzine region which does 4 night stays?
Like the look of the white room but probably looks too structured.
Hey trickydisco - if there's a few of you, you can have your own guide and do whatever you like! We're pretty chilled. Otherwise, drop-in/out of guiding as you like - some people like to just go and hit laps of the bike park / DH track some days.
I would be interested i long weekend options too. I have been to Morzine for the passed good few years and have had a truly amazing time. Yes it can be seen as bike parky etc etc, but guaranteed you will have a great time. Paris in February and sun holiday with the other half are threatening any Alps based trips this year..... BUT im not ruling out a mtb trip in Morzine and a road bike trip in the alps just yet.... Just need to find a way to keep the better half sweet. Jeezo, Paris could be expensive!!!! 😯 😐 8)
Alpe d'huez for the Megavalanche, biggest mountain riding ive done is welsh trail centers so totally unprepared for what lies ahead.Buying a van and driving over, going for 8 nights so will get plenty of riding in. if all goes well then it could become an annual trip.
Where am I going.....Val-d''Isere /Tignes
Why....Because I have use of an apartment free 😀
All the excuse I needed
@Tricky- structured probably isn't the right word for White Room (and I'm sure for other quality tour operators)- I've been twice and had 2 pretty different weeks, they have plans and they know what works and doesn't work but it's totally tailored for the riders. Our group asked for something different on one day, Stevo went off and figured it out and made it happen... We had riders dropping in and out of the days too, proved impossible to get some people out of the cafe at the foot of the lift 😉 It's your holiday, not a boot camp 🙂
I'm part of another group going to The White Room between 5th to 12th July! Four of us going, two on Orange 5's, and two on On One 456's.
The best riding in Les Arcs is on the numerous and scenic footpaths - go for it!
How easy is it to find decent trails in Les Arcs without a guide?
Anyone have a ballpark price figure for a long weekend with bike hire? Will sleep anywhere
I'm heading to Saalbach/Hinterglemm for the 2nd year in a row at the end of July.
Making sure I stay in the village this time so I get the free lift pass (Joker card).
I'm not a DH rider (longest travel bike I have is 120mm) but some of the Bike Park stuff is great for me and gives me a different type of riding to the normal XC stuff.
Weather was mixed last summer so didn't get a chance to do the longer trails when I was there but planning to do them this time. (Hackelberg trail etc)