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TdF Stage 5: Lille - Arenberg (spoilers!)

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Well, Saturday was CROSSWINDS!, today it's COBBLES!
Beginning to wonder after yesterday if I should just write "probably a Wout van Aert stage today" and just leave it at that... 😉

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Anyway...
Today's stage is a short but violent one, 153.7km with the latter half of it featuring 11 cobbled sectors totaling 18km. It's likely to be a race of two halves - the first for the actual winner of the stage, the second for the GC riders to simply get through it unscathed - it was around here in the 2014 Tour that defending champion Chris Froome crashed out.

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Pan flat (as per Paris-Roubaix) and although the race finishes at Arenberg it doesn't do the famous Arenberg Trench, instead sparing the riders by finishing at the old mine building. Weather today looks dry and warm so less chance of complete chaos but possibly some nice pics of the dust flying as they charge into the [i]pave[/i] sectors.

Riders for today? The obvious one of [b]Wout van Aert[/b] although there's the chance he may have to play super-domestique to [b]Primoz Roglic[/b]. Roglic however did a semi-classic around here in mid-March as preparation for today's stage and fared pretty well.
The other "van" - [b]Mathieu van der Poel[/b] is known to be targeting this stage and there's always the possibility that [b]Tom Pidcock[/b] will be let loose for the day.

[b]Peter Sagan[/b] has shown consistency if not outright brilliance so far and he knows what it takes to win on cobbles. That said, today is over 100km shorter than Paris-Roubaix.

Today starts at 12.35 with the first cobbles coming at about 2.30pm (both UK time)


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 10:03 am
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https://twitter.com/millarmind/status/1544584051574587392?t=J3qiPlMzIdx38uEFyOk0XA&s=19

David Millar and Ned Boulting out on a little recce. On thoroughly unsuitable bikes...


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 10:08 am
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Gonna be fast from the flag I reckon.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 10:12 am
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Can see this being a stoater. I've MvdP in my dream team but everyone seems so good at marking him these days. Hopefully Wout is given the nod to go but how much would yesterday have taken out of him. I've Kung and Mohric who I'm hoping also have a dog.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 12:03 pm
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I'm going Mvp who has been conspicuously absent so far and is obviously saving it for this stage


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 12:04 pm
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Looking forward to this. I think several small groups at the finish line today, all (including the first) named on the tv screen after the GC contender they contain.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 12:08 pm
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Going to be watching this one.
I think the chances of a big name having a bad one today are really high


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 12:08 pm
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I wonder how tired MvDP is after 3weeks hooning around Italy fuelled only on pizza with pineapple and pasta and ketchup.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 12:55 pm
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I wonder if MvdP has got the legs for the Tour - he did give it everything on the Giro, and that was his first full grand tour? I'd love to see a great WvA / MvdP /Pidcock battle though.. with a bit of Sagan mixed in...


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 1:08 pm
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WvA averaged 62km/h for the last 10.8km yesterday.....and thats after having to recover from ripping apart the others on the climb.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 1:21 pm
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WvA averaged 62km/h for the last 10.8km yesterday…..and thats after having to recover from ripping apart the others on the climb.

Tailwind and slight downhill finish though which is why (or at least partly why) the bunch weren't able to go any faster than that.

If it has been a headwind finish, I think he'd have been caught.
See what he manages today!


 
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I’ve Kung and Mohric who I’m hoping also have a dog.

Whilst I'm hoping they do have dogs, what I thought I'd typed was 'go'.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 1:48 pm
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I wonder if WVA will be on baby sitting duty today? Hence the big dig yesterday. MVD is surely going to attack early to see if Wout is allowed to follow. Pidcock seems to be all in as a domestique, he is playing the part of the injured Kwiato


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 1:51 pm
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Definitely going to be an interesting one tactics wise, JV team look so strong though, it is almost a whole team in JV versus Podagar as an individual... but do Jumbo have too many stars and the yellow/ green jersey conflict may cause trouble..


 
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MvdP saying he hasn't quite got the legs yet but a quick look at his bike, special paint job and cobble sections detailed on the stem suggest he might be up for it. Is he being coy about his chances.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 1:59 pm
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MAgnus Cort attacking again !!!! what a loony !


 
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MvdP to smash off the front with 60k to go and go absolutely shit or bust.

Pidcock seems to be all in as a domestique, he is playing the part of the injured Kwiato

I wouldn't be too certain about that one, given he's put in a highly respectable TT on the opening stage and been up at the front on all the subsequent stages, I can see him as being a back up for when G inevitably crashes


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 2:14 pm
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Geraint isn't too bad at riding the cobbles.
Come on Taco VdH I need some points in my velogames, currently sitting bottom on the STW game.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 2:26 pm
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It's been quick so far today, over 50kph average!

Hilarious that Magnus Cort is in the break again - is he going for overall Combativity Award?!


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 3:07 pm
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Holy shit, WvA down!
Team-mate clipped the central reservation and took him down.

He's back up and riding...


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 3:11 pm
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looked like he went down quite hard.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 3:12 pm
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Are the peloton actually going to ease up and wait for him?! Approaching the first cobbled sector, positioning critical and the leader out the back....?!


 
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commissaires are not going to be happy, bloody close


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 3:16 pm
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Looks like he is trying to play bumper cars.
Will he get pinged for drafting the team car?


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 3:16 pm
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Peloton are speeding up if anything. Time gap to the front dropping slightly to the peloton, but not from front to yellow Jersey


 
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Will he get pinged for drafting the team car?

Almost certainly but whether it'll be financial or a time penalty as well, I'm not sure.

Edit - he's back in the peloton


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 3:18 pm
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mental pace


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 3:33 pm
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Sagan crashed now! Just went into the corner too hot and slid out.
Back up immediately but right at the back.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 3:38 pm
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Pog second wheel in the peleton !


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 3:39 pm
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I think 2nd or 3rd place to be, just with nose out of the window, but as near the front as possible.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 3:51 pm
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I'd like to see Magnus Cort do well today, purely for the entertainment value he's given us since start


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:07 pm
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amazing shot!


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:24 pm
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MvdP spat out... that was an awesome shot with all the dust behind the cars...


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:24 pm
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MvdP out the back


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:25 pm
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MvdP dropped.
Blowing to pieces now, this is insanely fast. Some epic photography too with the dust clouds!


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:25 pm
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Vingegarrd mechanical


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:27 pm
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Vinegard needed a new bike too, going to be hard to get back


 
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Ben O'connor stuffed. This is brutal


 
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Pog is a class rider!


 
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Vinegard needed a new bike too, going to be hard to get back

PMSL at the Jumbo bike changes and them all ending up on bikes the wrong size! Looked like a game of musical chairs - all get off and swap bikes.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:30 pm
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WvA going to lose the yellow today


 
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Bora are really piling it on now!


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:32 pm
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WvA falling back to do domestique duties.. not often you see a yellow jersey do that..


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:32 pm
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now that's domestique.... going back to help out and likely losing a yellow jersey... wow.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:33 pm
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Don't know why but i have a feeling something big is going to happen in the next sector.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:34 pm
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It's turning into the cycling version of the Wacky Races..


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:35 pm
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Rpglic has been down


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:37 pm
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This is nuts!


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:38 pm
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Gendarme knocked that hay bail over into the road. Then just looked at it, helpfully


 
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operation put jumbo to the sword


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:39 pm
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Not just jumbo, ineos and others in trouble too


 
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Shame WvA went back just before Rog down. If both Rog and Vinnegard (sp?) had both lost minutes already, they may have said to WvA, sod it, go for it...

Pog just looks so comfy whatever he is doing, looked great at Strade Bianche and Flanders, nothing seems to faze him.


 
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Are any of the Ineos GC boys still in the main group? Can only make out Van Baarle who doesn't seem to have G on his wheel anymore.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:41 pm
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Nope, the rest of the ineos gc are in the wva group


 
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Lovely to see Jumbo in trouble.


 
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Pog should ride Roubaix, he's ripping them a new one over the cobbles!


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:48 pm
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Pog is amazing, but there is just something that feels wrong about it all


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:49 pm
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One day at the top of the STW fantasy league and that's it done with after today 😢😂


 
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amazing, the lad loves to race


 
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Everyone-"WvA can do anything"

Pog- "Haud ma beer"


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:52 pm
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Part of me thinks it's been a corker of a stage, but with no JV competition, then it will be a one man GC show again, and rest of race won't be as exciting


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:54 pm
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Yep, you can't help but feel pog will be in yellow from now until Paris, unless he has a crash


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 4:57 pm
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it does feel like the tour has just been decided.  Hope it's not so though


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 5:00 pm
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Not over yet then, wva might keep yellow and pog isn't going to get a much as thought


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 5:11 pm
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Wow


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 5:14 pm
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WvA did a hell of a job getting back to being so close to Pog, must have burnt a lot of matches doing that whilst Pog looks like he has been for a pleasant bimble in the french countryside


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 5:15 pm
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awesome stage and brilliant recovery from WvA


 
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I don't think pog looks that fresh, there are going to be a lot of burnt people today. Tomorrow should be quieter


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 5:17 pm
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Vingegaard only 21s down on Pogacar, not catastrophic.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 5:21 pm
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I thought the time gaps would be increasing by minutes not seconds.
What a stage


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 5:23 pm
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It's over for rog. No way he can make up 2 minutes unless pog has an issue, vingegaard is the leader now. Lets see how close he is to pog on friday, but it looks like its only going one way from here on.


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 5:40 pm
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Rog has dislocated shoulder! That must have stung on the cobbles...


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 5:44 pm
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Rog has dislocated shoulder!

isn't that what he did last year as well?


 
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in which case it must have been quite a decision to drop 3 men back to pull him in.  I guess that means they think he is good to be able to pull back time but I can't see how


 
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Gallery up here - I guess there'll be a load more added overnight.
https://www.letour.fr/en/stage-5/image-gallery


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 6:56 pm
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vingegaard is the leader now.

It'll be interesting to see how he goes against Pog now he doesn't have to consider anyone else in the team (well except WvA!).


 
Posted : 06/07/2022 7:11 pm
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I think Pog was lucky there, also is it just me or is Roglic really shit at bike handling? I know he came from ski racing or something but seems to struggle with keeping rubber side down?


 
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I guess that means they think he is good to be able to pull back time but I can’t see how

I expect the thinking is that it's still good to have him as a potential threat to Pog for later in the race even if the threat is much reduced. Last thing they would have wanted is Pog only having to think about Vingegaard.


 
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If you must swap bikes with a teammate, don’t ride for the national team of the tallest nation on earth 🤣. Sitting on the top tube is a DQ, unless you can’t reach the saddle. What a stage.

WvA was magnificent. I winced as he almost rode into the back of the car. Yea I’d lose my handling mojo after that too. I think the others rode their luck (or lack of).


 
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Just seen the highlights - that was brutal to say the least!!


 
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