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I wasn't convinced there was much booing so much as people shouting "Froome". See also Joe Root and Kevin Youkilis for examples.
Highlights said that the time quintana lost in the Zealand stage was bigger than the overall margin. And i think he lost a bit in the tt too. So he rode all the rest of the hills faster than Sky. Must be cheating, heading to Paris with my cup of piss as we speak.
pint or a half??
So he rode all the rest of the hills faster than Sky.
They actually said as much in the highlights programme. If the polka dot jersey was done on time, Quintana would have it easily but it's done on a points score based on position over the top so Froome, who was simply higher placed more often wins.
That was more or less how Virenque used to win it - target all the 3rd & 4th cat hills then limit losses on all the real mountains.
Hats off to Froome though, that's one hell of an achievement. Yes, the mountainous course favoured the double yellow/kom this year but to make it stick took some doing!
Brilliant stage today, nailbiting finish!
I would think a half pint would be appropriate for Quintana.
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Someone spat on Froome again???
Here.
No, that was yesterday's.
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Froome won in the end because of time gains he made because him and his entire team were in the right place at the right time almost 3 weeks ago!
Caught everyone by surprise using exactly the same tactics employed in 2013! Blast the first big mountain stage when everyone else is finding their climbing legs, then limit losses.
Nope. in 2013 he took 1:45 on Quintana on the first mountain stage, this year he took 1:04 (less than Quintana took back today). However he took 1:28 in the crosswinds on stage 2, more than the final winning margin.
That was more or less how Virenque used to win it - [s]target all the 3rd & 4th cat hills then limit losses on all the real mountains.[/s]Being doped up to the eyeballs.
(Yes, I know that belongs in the doping thread, but I couldn't resist!)
Tonight's highlights showed a knob in a KOM jersey/t shirt spitting at Froome. He pedalled on but looked back at culprit as he realised what happened.
[quote=crazy-legs ]it's done on a points score based on position over the top so Froome, who was simply higher placed more often wins.
That was more or less how Virenque used to win it - target all the 3rd & 4th cat hills then limit losses on all the real mountains.
er, I didn't see Froome targetting 3rd and 4th cat climbs, I did see him at or near the front on the big climbs. It was just the way it was set up this year with lots of summit finishes which made the double possible - I make it that Froome got 91 of his 119 MPR points on summit finishes (enough on their own to beat all but Quintana). Clearly he had seen the possibility early on (knowing Sky I can't believe it didn't occur to them before the race) as he did go chasing points, but it was the summit finishes what did it.
To be fair, Virenque did go on big exploits when he was on another planet, and did deservedly win the jersey from the POV of what he did on the bike, more so than some of the more recent winners.
[quote=stanfree ]It seems very unfair that the big stage win in the Pyrenees last week should fuel such speculation in the french press and ultimately lead to the spitting and piss throwing.
Particularly given who it is speculating - maybe they just think that because they did it...
Am I alone in thinking that was all just a bit dull? Great to see Pinot noir get a stage win, but with Froome riding like a damp firework, Quintana not-really-ever-quite making it, some unpleasant oiks in the crowd, and the tour pretty much being decided 3 weeks ago.. It all seems to have lacked je ne sais que somewhat..
Still, at least we can all look forward to Cavendish securing a thrilling win in Paris tomorrow.. Oh, hang on..
yes, you are alone.
Still, at least we can all look forward to Cavendish securing a thrilling win in Paris tomorrow.. Oh, hang on..
If he does win it'll be against all the odds, so thrilling indeed 😉
Tomorrow should be a fun ending, can't decide whose most likely to win. My money is on a German, but not sure which one and I reckon Cav and Kristoff won't be too far behind and even in with a decent chance of winning.
What Nipper said.
[quote=no_eyed_deer ]the tour pretty much being decided 3 weeks ago.
So you never thought Q might do it today? One of the tightest races for years, so many occasions when Froome could have lost it, whatever the talk was that he'd already won it before the first proper mountain stage.
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......heading to Paris with my cup of piss as we speak.
They'll never let you on the plane.
Why not buy a cup in Paris (or take your own with you) and piss in it when you get there?
Or were you planning on taking someone else's piss?
Hmmm?
Massive dark cloud over this TDF and nothing to do with Froome's performance, way too many dickheads in the crowd. The booing at Froome was ridiculous, not least as he was riding alongside a convicted doper.
Now waiting for the dedicated threads about Quintana's doping. It seems everyone has forgot that it was Movistar that destroyed the peloton in that first stage in the Pirenees, shame for Quintana he overestimated how well he was going after he rest day and can't ride in cross winds.
Yep movistar played their hand on that stage just 50km too early. Wonder if they had just quintana and not valverde how different it would have been.
Been great watching from day 1.
My highlights
Rohan Dennis taking the tt just for the look on his face - his Facebook page still has his yellow jersey pic as his profile.
Tony Martin coming off the cobbles to win and go yellow in style
Mur d hoy finish
The attacks and finish on pyrenees day 1
Grumpy Cav tweets
So you never thought Q might do it today?
Having checked the Guardian webpage, before watching the highlights in the evening, no.
Unfortunately being at work yesterday meant I couldn't dedicate my life to live-viewing and - spoiler alert - the highlights become somewhat less exciting knowing the result anyway.
The booing and negative shite is really f'ing sad. Put off the whole spectacle for me.
*remembers first rule of STW fight club: never start a post 'Am I alone in this?'*
Massive dark cloud over the TDF - looks like rain in Paris today.
[quote=no_eyed_deer ]Having checked the Guardian webpage, before watching the highlights in the evening, no.
Unfortunately being at work yesterday meant I couldn't dedicate my life to live-viewing and - spoiler alert - the highlights become somewhat less exciting knowing the result anyway.
Ah, so it was a bit dull when you were watching the highlights already knowing the result?
Awesome stage but the win never really looked in doubt for Froome, sadly.
If only there were another mountain stage or two still to come, then we'd have a fight on our hands.
Hopefully Bertie will show up in form next year too.
So it'll be his last season, go for the double again or just the Tour to stand a better chance of winning?
Can't see him making the same mistake twice.
Porte might be heading up BMC for next year's TdF too I guess.