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[Closed] TdF Stage 11 - A Tough One [Spoilers]

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1. GBR WIGGINS Bradley 101 SKY PROCYCLING 48h 43' 53''
2. GBR FROOME Christopher 105 SKY PROCYCLING 48h 45' 58'' + 02' 05''
3. ITA NIBALI Vincenzo 51 LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE 48h 46' 16'' + 02' 23''
4. AUS EVANS Cadel 1 BMC RACING TEAM 48h 47' 12'' + 03' 19''
5. BEL VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 111 LOTTO-BELISOL TEAM 48h 48' 41'' + 04' 48''


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:09 pm
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What happened? (following by text!)

Crossed finish more or less together, hugs'n'kisses, flowers, wine and phone numbers exchanged.....


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:10 pm
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Wiggo doing his best to make sure a horses head doesn't appear in his bed one morning.


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:10 pm
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Froome either spent to hell or hasnt had his media training ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:11 pm
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Aww isn't that lovely. Did either look round to see if a note saying "Drop Me" was stuck to them? ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:12 pm
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[i]Another awful day for my team. Balls. [/i]

On the contary I've had two stage winners in as many days ๐Ÿ™‚

Still languishing down in 70th odd place though ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:12 pm
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Aww isn't that lovely. Did either look round to see if a note saying "Drop Me" was stuck to them?

LOL. So have to do that to someone.


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:13 pm
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Roche 6 mins down. Ouch.

Nice ride from Pinot again, the next "French cycling star"? (how many of those have their been?)

Froome will get a shot next year at one of the GTs. Although I think Rogers, Porte, Uran and Henao will be wanting shots soon enough too.


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:14 pm
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Fun day - well done Froome (watch out wiggo your no2 looks v strong!)


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:14 pm
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Any bets on Froome not being on Sky next year?


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:16 pm
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I'm getting a horrible feeling that Mr Wiggins is the chosen one for Sky for sentimental/media/marketing reasons.

Wiggins is definitely better than Froome against the clock but I get the feeling that if Froome was riding for himself he would more than make up for it in the hills. One on one for the GC my money would be on Froome.


 
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I think Froome will stay with Sky. He gets a lot of support that he'd probably not get anywhere else, plus didn't he sign a 2 year contract at the end of last season?

Froome will have plenty of opportunity as he's a lot younger than Wiggo.

There's 3 Grand Tours for them to share between each other with plenty of decent support riders.


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:22 pm
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I'm getting a horrible feeling that Mr Wiggins is the chosen one for Sky for sentimental/media/marketing reasons.

I'd say it's more than Mr W fits in with the tactic of "grind the oppo to bits on the road, then win it in the TTs"


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:23 pm
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What a day.

Froome taking off like a man possesed then stopping short as his radio ear-piece explodes.
Rolland crossing the line with a bloody thigh showing through the big tear in his shorts, proper hard man style.
Nibali and Wiggins getting engaged.
Evans looking like he's just swallowed a lemon.

More dull boring racing like this please.


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:24 pm
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There are going to be some tired legs tomorrow.


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:27 pm
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I'm off to find a hat to eat ๐Ÿ˜ณ


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:27 pm
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My sky plus stopped recording with 4k to go. Did froome attack Wiggins or was it planned?


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:31 pm
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My sky plus stopped recording with 4k to go.

Eurosport? Ruined most of my highlight shows so far!


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:33 pm
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Phil Liggett on the Evans attack "Best Attack of the Tour this Year". Nice one Phil, you could say that if Evans won the stage & yellow from there, but making 15 seconds and not being able to keep the wheel of your team mate. It was a bloody catastrophe more like.


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:39 pm
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Bloody commentators not being able to tell the future and such. My nan could do a better job!

FWIW I thought that was a fantastic attack, he just didn't have the legs to hold off the sky train. I'm wondering if he was hoping to draw Wiggins out away from his team and into a 3 on 1 situation, but Wiggins didn't fall for it.


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:42 pm
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exactly, keep your hyperbole till the finish Phil.


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:45 pm
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exactly, keep your hyperbole till the finish Phil.

...Do you know what hyperbole is? ๐Ÿ˜•


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:47 pm
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i'll rephrase so you understand

exactly, keep your exaggerations and emphasis for effect till the finish Phil.


 
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...Do you know what hyperbole is?

Do you know what mint condition is? ๐Ÿ˜•


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:52 pm
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LOL @ Yossarian! ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 5:58 pm
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Could Froome's attack have been a team tactic to see if Nubali would or could follow?


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 6:02 pm
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No i doubt it I just think he did it in the moment

The thing he has is a change of pace...Brad can grind at a very high pace but he cannot change pace

No longer sure which one of them is the best tbh
What did froome loose with the punture + if he had continued to attack?


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 6:14 pm
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it's all pretty academic really if they were racing each other brad had the chance to drop him earlier in the climb when he(chris) struggled to keep in contact.


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 6:19 pm
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Fair point


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 6:21 pm
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TBH, it looks like Wiggins will win, but I won't be rushing to buy the DVD, makes an Indurain tour look exciting...

Fair Play! I Really picked the wrong stage! what a cracker!

Err, can we talk about Froomes emergence as a world beater in two years, which have been plagued by injury and illness? If he was Italian we'd be ripping him to shreds, that radobank doctor is earning his beans...


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 10:04 pm
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My sky plus stopped recording with 4k to go

You can set it to overrun by 10 minutes


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 10:09 pm
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Blimey, those are some long legs that bloke Froome has! ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 10:21 pm
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Glitchy Bump

Froome does look like he can win it one day


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 10:24 pm
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junkyard, yeah, tomorrow!


 
Posted : 12/07/2012 10:25 pm
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You can set it to overrun by 10 minutes
the kids had clashed it with Postman Pat!


 
Posted : 13/07/2012 6:52 am
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Still hanging on to yellow by the skin of my teeth.....I'm going to miss it when it's gone :0(


 
Posted : 13/07/2012 8:12 am
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Bradley, get off Rorschach's computer !

๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜ณ


 
Posted : 13/07/2012 8:13 am
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My sky plus stopped recording with 4k to go

My virgin tivo did the exact same thing (as did my mates). Really annoying!


 
Posted : 13/07/2012 9:25 am
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[i]It's quite clever. Froome can attack and Nibbles will go with him, all these little digs will break Nibbles and Wiggo will just keep trawling on in his usual rhythm.[/i]

Thats exactly the points I was making when I said I'd like to see Froome attack.

wiggins/froome = hinault/lemond


 
Posted : 13/07/2012 10:03 am
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so if froome continues to drag wiggins through the rest of the tour and stays in second and froome stays ahead of everyone else at the last TT (wiggins sets off last right?) do you think he'll ease off and let froome take it as the rightful winner? seeing as how he does [i]so far[/i] seem to be the better rider and presumably is being reigned in from stamping over everyone else to nurse bradley.

just an idea


 
Posted : 13/07/2012 10:11 am
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[i]do you think he'll ease off and let froome take it as the rightful winner?[/i]

Not a chance. This is wiggins tour, froome will have his time.


 
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Blimey, those are some long legs that bloke Froome has!

Smelling salts and a cold shower for CG

It's quite clever. Froome can attack and Nibbles will go with him, all these little digs will break Nibbles and Wiggo will just keep trawling on in his usual rhythm.

I reckon it might have been discussed as a general tactic, then when the situation arrose the DS gave him an earfull and/or the wording was more "Nibbles has nothing, sit up" rather than "Wiggins has nothing, sit up".

If they had gone the really interesting moment would have been whether Wiggins and Nibali would have worked together to catch him, or whether Sky would view the lesser of 2 evils to keep Nibali back from Froom and let Froom get close to Wiggins in the overall or try and catch Froom and keep the top 3 as they are.

Not a chance. This is wiggins tour, froome will have his time.
+1 Froom was dropper erlier in the stage (nothing to say if he'd done less of the work Brad or someone else woudln't have been the one being dropped though?) and I don't think he'd have 2 minutes in his legs, I reckon it was one last kick to see what happend or to prove a point I don't think he intended to break away and stay away.


 
Posted : 13/07/2012 10:15 am
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This is wiggins tour
well I presume rather than it being "brad's turn" it was decided at the start that BW was the strongest all rounder and had the best chance of winning but froome (along with rest of team) seems to be doing most of the work, has energy left to spare and is pretty good TTer aswell, he may have been the better choice and is only in second due to team orders.

Not really expecting bw to give it up, just an idle though.


 
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[I know I am a hopeless romantic but...]

I would like to see Sky reach the point where they can drop 'team orders' between Froome and Wiggins and let them race. It's clear Froome has a turn of speed that Wiggins can't match but I'm not convinced [i][b]yet[/i][/b] that he's the better all-round rider.


 
Posted : 13/07/2012 10:21 am
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seeing as how he does so far seem to be the better rider and presumably is being reigned in from stamping over everyone else to nurse bradley.

Not sure you can be that certain this would happen
Wiggo dropped Froome on the hardest part an nursed him up so we cannot be certain what would have happened to Froome had he been dropped when he was struggling
Wiggo is still a far better TT than Froome

I accept it would be very close if they were in different teams but remember the same folk who "nurse" Wiggo up have also nursed Froome up. Had froome not cracked and had to lead Brad up then he may have "cracked" further up like brad sort of did. We dont know if Froome could have sustained it to the top either see Nibbles or cuddles for example

He does have superb recovery and he ha s change of pace that Brad lacks though
I assume Sky know who is actually the strongest rider [ froome said there was no chance Brad would be slower than him on the TT for example] though and I assume one day Froome time will come.


 
Posted : 13/07/2012 10:23 am
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