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I dont usually carry a first aid kit but was thinking about taking a bit of superglue just in case someone makes a big hole in themselvs in the middle of nowhere. Is normal superglue ok?


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 12:48 pm
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Apparently yes, but I think the application technique isn't necessarily just to fill the hold and squeeze, though I could be wrong, as I think that "seals off" the injury parts from healing with each other. I tend to hold together and glue over the top of the hole. There's some discussion over whether normal glue contains too much cyanoacrylate (thats what superglue is AFAIK) and can cause necrosis, but I've been told by several medical professionals that it's the same thing exactly. Never been too sure if it was a generalisation stemming from people just saying "its superglue" and then people just using real superglue!


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 12:52 pm
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wasnt superglue invented in ww2 or vietman for holding people together once they had been shot?


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 12:54 pm
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Jammy111, I thought the same, Korea or Vietnam


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 12:59 pm
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Not sure if it is the same or not, but the stuff we use at work is only suitable for smaller wounds that have not penetrated too deeply to the underlying tissues.
The method of application is to hold the edges of the wound together without distorting the surrounding area. If the edges don't meet neatly, don't glue!
Apply the a


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 1:21 pm
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Not sure if it is the same or not, but the stuff we use at work is only suitable for smaller wounds that have not penetrated too deeply to the underlying tissues.
The method of application is to hold the edges of the wound together without distorting the surrounding area. If the edges don't meet neatly, don't glue!
Apply the glue across the wound just like stitches. Start in the centre and work outwards, spacing your stitches equally. Apply a final strip along the wound, taking care not to contaminate the tissue underneath with glue. The kit we use has a sponge type applicator to give an even stripe of glue.

Needless to say, this should all be done in a sterile environment to prevent infection, and only once the wound has stopped bleeding;-)

If in doubt, PRESSURE-999-BANDAGE


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 1:35 pm
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so you sustain a "BIG HOLE" - your MTBing, your wet, sweaty, muddy, covered in cow poo and sheep wee - only close a STERILE wound after considering an x ray for debris - so NO. irrigate the wound with your camel bak, cover with a dressing (cling film / silver survival type blanket / gaffa tape to keep dry), go to walk / hobble in centre

If in doubt, PRESSURE-08454647 -BANDAGE


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 1:37 pm
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if anyone finds me with a bloody wound could they try more traditional methods of stemming the flow of blood until a qualified assesment can be made of the wound and appropriate treatment please?


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 1:40 pm
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I've used it on [b]clean[/b] cuts at home and it's worked lovely.. as previous posts have put, needs to be a clean injury that's not too deep.

Interestingly, a mate cut his leg open last week biking, after it was totally cleaned the hospital glued it back together, he said it hurt like hell but it's healed really well..

I'd avoid taking it onto the trails, it's more important to clean thoroughly and cover to stop further crud getting in.. if you glue something shut that still has rubbish in you're asking for infection


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 1:46 pm
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I would use steristrips myself. One issue is these thing need a certain level of skill to get good results. Have you got that skill? If not leave it to someone who has


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 2:12 pm
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Minor cut sure but forget major bleeds unless its the only thing...

Anbody called Rambo here?


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 2:14 pm
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[b]NO NO NO[/b] Superglue is toxic. It was invented for the war, but the stuff you buy is not good for!

If you get a big hole, by all means clean the crap out - the sooner the better as you'll still have adrenaline going through you -but [b]DO NOT PULL OUT LARGE OBJECTS[/b] they could be stemming seriously bleeding. If this is the case, clean the surrounding area (bottles of eyewash/contact lens solution - (the bottle is great for a hgh power jet!), pad around the wound apply pressure and get to A&E, if things are really and there is blood absolutely pi55ing everywhere, use a Tornique style devise (note proper ones are not to be used in civvy street). Apply it as close to the wound as possible. If the flow of blood stops, ease it off as you don;'t want to restrict blood to other parts of the body, if it continues reapply pressure - make it [b]TIGHT[/b]!

Good thing in a small med kit is a bottle of Iodine for cleaning.


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 2:21 pm