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Cheers Nixie, 1907 for me.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 11:25 am
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I have done bologna once before (two lap event), it wasnt pleasant!

Laps on that course are singularly awful.

I'm on a 19.02 start. Bear in mind that the time showing though is to the previous full minute so I may actually be 19.02.50 - I think they're 5 second gaps between riders but I've a nagging suspicion it's 10.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 11:26 am
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~10mins20sec up the Bologna ramp at 3.6W/Kg.

Best strategy is along the lines of just under your best ~8-15min Wattage on the flat and then just over your best ~8-15min Wattage on the hill, more power on the hill provides more time gains.

With an FTP estimate now of ~271W, I'll be aiming for ~250-270 on the flat, start the hill at ~275-290 and gradually try to hold towards ~320+ for the last few mins in negative split TT style to try and complete in just under 20mins... Whether I get anywhere close is another matter! 😆

Full course https://www.strava.com/segments/20560239
Flat section https://www.strava.com/segments/20581369
Hill section https://www.strava.com/segments/20560392

1902 start for me I think.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 11:31 am
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@simster if you go here https://zwiftpower.com/profile.php?z=826056 there should be a green icon in the top right saying to join STW.

@w00dster if you go on the companion app and find the race for next week - click on it and you should be able to see your start time at the bottom. They are at 10 sec intervals so if you have 19:00 you will go between 19:00 and 19:01.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 11:36 am
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Anybody done this before what kind of time are we looking at, if around 20 minutes is it a case of trying to hold your ftp plus 5% for the duration

As above really. I've only ever done TT bikes (since they're normally forced) but I usually try hold about 300 or so on the flat 330 ish on the climb. My FTP is about 316 supposedly. So about 95% 105% I guess.

What tends to catch me every time are the couple of flat sections on the climb where I tend to drop to low 200s before I remember.

I'd certainly suggest giving fast Friday a go this week if you've never ridden it before.

From what I can see my best solo was 17.48 at 4.1wkg 325w avg


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 11:40 am
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19.06 for me. Sounds like I need to do some swotting up on the course...


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 11:45 am
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Wow, I pulled a result out last night! Felt good and was nicely warmed up, dead chuffed. I'll do a Rosber and bail out now then eh...

TT will be *fun*, never done it before, this is making me nervous!

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Will we automatically be put on a TT bike or do we need to buy and select one?


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 11:47 am
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You should be on a MTB 😆


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 11:50 am
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Yeh you should be on a MTB - if you aren't switch over to one. I think even if graphically you are on a road bike it will have the characteristics of the MTB. I have contacted Zwift but prob wont get a reply until the evening due to time differences.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 11:53 am
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Got it!


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 11:58 am
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Certainly made me work for it, then managed to pull away on the final descent. 

You won't be the first or last to do that! The lack of draft will kill light riders, really noticed it last night. The wheel sucking approach I perfected to get me a gc podium in series 1 won't work now for sure.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:02 pm
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Start time for me is 19:09 for the TT. Never done one before, so wondering if I need to try & search one out before next Tues....


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:04 pm
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Who’s at 7.01?

*waves*

I'm expecting to be passed 🙂


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:06 pm
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How is everyone seeing their start time for next week? Doesn't tell me on the web when I follow the link I used to sign up, and on the companion app I can't figure out how to see ALL the events I've registered for (can only see the next event I've got coming up which is tomorrow's TTT)!


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:25 pm
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Slight update on the fastest lap results last night. I missed benman's lap so the fastest 5 laps were actually:

1. nixie
2. Seabass
3. Paino
4. Benman
5. Phil56

Apologies to DrP who has lost his sprint point!


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:26 pm
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@zilog6128 on the companion app homescreen on the pircture under the events tab/banner you can scroll left and right to see other events you have signed up for. Once you have found it on there then you can click on it and check your start time.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:28 pm
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@stumpy01 and anyone else who hasn't riden it before...

There's a 17.00 on Friday on the bologna circuit for those interested

Annoyingly I'm sure that used to be a later kick off than that as 5pm is pushing it for me.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:30 pm
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Can't make a 5pm ride unfortunately so it looks like I'll be riding this one cold...should be interesting!


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:33 pm
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Apologies to DrP who has lost his sprint point!

Curses.... "shakes fist" 😉

DrP


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:35 pm
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What's everybody's best time for the bologna course then?

Looking at my times, I think mine is 17.17, which won't be troubled next week given I'm unfit and on a mtb.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:38 pm
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@oopnorth there's a 9am one too.

I guess TTers are all unemployed at the moment.

(looks like the tdz has taken a few of the time slots I think FF would normally occupy)


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:42 pm
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so looking at the strava leaderboard.. Women (likely similar weight to me, at 70kg) are getting sub 7 minutes with 340w average.... i reckon i could keep that wattag up for 7-9 minutes, TBH
Likely to be slower on a MTB, as those times will be TT bikes...

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Posted : 06/01/2021 12:42 pm
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Looking at my times, I think mine is 17.17, which won’t be troubled next week given I’m unfit and on a mtb.

Wouldn't be troubled by me if I were fit and on a TT bike.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:44 pm
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@drp

Women (likely similar weight to me, at 70kg) are getting sub 7 minutes

If that's for the full course you're going to be very disappointed 😂


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:45 pm
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@robbo1234biking awesome thanks, 19:08 for me!


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:46 pm
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If that’s for the full course you’re going to be very disappointed

Oh yeah... eek!
I think that's simply the final leg of the climb!!!
OK.. will see if i can scope a track run somewhere!!

DrP


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:47 pm
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I haven't done sub-20 mins on a TT bike - I have improved since then but can see it being about 22mins at least for me on a MTB if not more.

@zilog6128 - its a hidden feature that I found by mistake - classic zwift UI.

@DrP - if only you hadn't chosen NY for Sunday Hills...


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:48 pm
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Might be of use to some...(me)

Takehome message...
[b]Sub FTP for the first 6km... Over FTP for last 2km/climb[/b]

DrP


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 12:53 pm
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How does the start work? Is it like the TTT where we have to work out the correct launch time or will the clock count down to our individual time?


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 1:01 pm
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You go in lanes and are released automatically by zwift at the correct time.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 1:03 pm
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Is it like the TTT where we have to work out the correct launch time

With us lot? That would be bloody hilarious.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 1:16 pm
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5 months ago I'd have been pretty confident of a high placing.

Now all I expect is 20 odd minutes of abject suffering and a mid table result to show for it

Bologna is all about the pacing..the course is 2 halves and you want a negative power split. If you blow up on the climb you'll hemorage time.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 1:18 pm
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If you blow up on the climb you’ll hemorrhage time.

That will be me! I'll go off far too fast for my ability and die big style on the hill...it's fully expected 🙂


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 1:27 pm
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I've got a 19:11 start time so somewhat later than a number of you. I've never ridden the course, so can see it going something like:
- Out of the blocks, keep it steady.
- Realise the riders in front are just about visible and go nuts trying to catch them. Establish I'm an idiot and back off.
- Get to bottom of hill, think I can hold mega-watts (a little over 300w), manage it for a short period
- Contemplate giving in and how much I dislike Robbo once a week
- Die a death mid-way up the climb and do what I can to make it to the finish line.


 
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@jimdubleyou *wavesback* you and me both 🙂


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 1:43 pm
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@stumpy01 and anyone else who hasn’t riden it before…

There’s a 17.00 on Friday on the bologna circuit for those interested

Cheers @dengeourbrain ...I noticed that earlier on zwifthacks. Might have to give that a go, although have a Robbo workout session in the morning too. Could treat it just as a sighter, I suppose.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 1:57 pm
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I’ll give the Fast Friday TT a go, scheduled off at 1703.
Plan is to be just under FTP for the flat and about 105% of FTP for the climb. No idea what time I’ll get but be interesting to see how I get on.
Realised why my avatar looked like he had piles and couldn’t sit down last night, my daughter uses my Zwift account, I’d changed the height and weight setting but the Zwift FTP was 190 rather than my 263. Don’t think this impacted my overall time, I managed to keep close to my FTP for the 48 mins.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 2:38 pm
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Are you going full dress rehearsal and riding an MTB for Fast Friday @w00dster?


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 3:12 pm
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Not a chance! Just want to get a feel for my effort levels on both the flat and then the hill.
I’ve not done much 20 minute above FTP type riding so want to get a feel for what I can sustain.....probably not much more than FTP.


 
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Are you going full dress rehearsal and riding an MTB for Fast Friday
haha that would make you look like a mentalist 🤣 Don't think Zwift lets you select a non-TT bike for a TT event though? Robbo needs to get onto ZHQ and make them introduce a ridable MTB with clip on aerobars 😃


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 3:27 pm
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I might give Friday a go on an MTB.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 3:27 pm
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MTB and Aero helmet FTW! It's a strong look


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 3:36 pm
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w00dster

my daughter uses my Zwift account, I’d changed the height and weight setting

I might try that next week. My daughter weighs 16kg or so at at the moment. Should help me up the hill at least 🙂


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 3:40 pm
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MTB and Aero helmet FTW! It’s a strong look

There's a chap on my commute regularly does full sperm outfit on a Brompton. I caught him at a set of lights once and had to ask and its because he keeps his tri bike in the office as its next to the "pond" so uses the Brompton to head in to the office as warm up and just dives straight in.

Very odd.


 
Posted : 06/01/2021 3:45 pm
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stumpy... I'm 1910..so I'm your minute man!!!

DrP


 
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