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Project slow down well in progress. Still got two 9" Christmas cakes to eat! On the plus side less handicap 😆.


 
Posted : 01/01/2021 3:47 pm
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Sign me up again thanks, cannon fodder category!


 
Posted : 01/01/2021 3:48 pm
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Yes for me Rob, same ftp and weight as last time thks.


 
Posted : 01/01/2021 7:10 pm
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My invite has gone... can ya ping me another please xxx

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Posted : 01/01/2021 10:33 pm
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Yes I'll have a go again please robbo. Been Ill but I'm back on it again now.


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 1:37 am
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When do you need updated weights by robbo? I'm thinking I can starve my self back to approximately 2 white rhino by Tuesday but at the moment I'm about 1 African elephant give or take a calf.


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 10:07 am
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Hi Robbo, could you add me again please. FTP 227 & 78Kg (and rising!). Cheers


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 10:43 am
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He needs it by the 3rd of Jan to calculate all the handicaps.


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 10:43 am
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Thanks all - think i have everyone who has messaged me or posted on this.

Yes @dangeourbrain need the stats by tomorrow evening so I can get the handicaps done on Monday. Cheers


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 11:29 am
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@robbo1234biking I just did a ramp test and got a decent increase to a FTP of 283.
However the weigh in went the other way to 90kg, a 2kg increase so it probably negates any improvement 🤣🤣

Work to be done...


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 11:44 am
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321W & 80kg. ZP has bumped me up into A. Even though my last race fell way below the criteria required to be in that category.


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 12:01 pm
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I'll hop on the scales today then. If you don't hear back in sat in a corner trying to figure out how I put on more weight in two weeks than I lost all year.


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 12:10 pm
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ZP has bumped me up into A. Even though my last race fell way below the criteria required to be in that category.

I seem to recall seeing something somewhere about them fixing that as too many people seemed to have a couple of great races then one really bad one which kept them in lower categories.

This may be misremembering or correctly remembered but one of the community suggestions (so never acted on obviously)


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 12:13 pm
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321W & 80kg

We are going to be very close this time. I'm a couple of kg lighter but otherwise very similar headline power now.


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 12:52 pm
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Paino is the yellow jersey holder for this series as well so has to defend the yellow jersey! First race has a fastest lap award but no sprint points for this one (why cant they put a sprint section on the jungle loop (maybe across the bridge!)

Thanks all for the other updates - have got those down.

Just did a race to see if I still had some racing legs left. It was 2 laps of the cliffside loop - about 100 starters. I got in the front group but couldnt hold the pace and ended up fighting for around 23/24 on the road. Did good on the climb on both loops as didnt get dropped but struggled to get a good consistent power on the new section of road for some reason. In any case came in 4th on ZP and seeing as the others had a good weight advantage over me I will take that. That course works well for a race route with a couple of climbs and the flat. Back to some structured training for me on Monday but it is hard to fit in with the race series on Tuesdays and TTT on Thursdays!


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 1:57 pm
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@robbo123biking
You able to re-invite me please?

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Posted : 02/01/2021 2:13 pm
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@DrP. Check your PMs. There should be one from me from this morning with a link to all 6 races. Are your mates joining in again this time? If so let me know weight and Ftp and pass the links onto them. Cheers.


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 2:26 pm
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Only recently back on Zwift (few months) so not very familiar with all the routes.

Today's mission is to have a pootle around the Jungle Circuit. Curious as to what's meant by this in the OP write up of the first race:
"Starts from the pens near the windmill so you have to get to the start line first."

Will we not be taken to the start point when joining the event? (I guess I might find out later when I do the route).


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 3:04 pm
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Will we not be taken to the start point when joining the event? (I guess I might find out later when I do the route).

Yes you will.

It's a lollipop course - you do x kms to get to the lap start then it's three laps from there.

But the race starts from start, not the lap start.

Just did my ramp test... Still Cat D...

I also need to change my grip tape, because it ******** stinks.


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 3:38 pm
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@jimdubleyou aha gotcha, thanks very much - that makes perfect sense now you've explained it 🙂


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 3:44 pm
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Due to surgery i'm likely to only make race1. But i'll be watching the others.


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 3:49 pm
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Yeh as Jim says there is a lead in (which is mostly downhill) before the 3 laps start. But it will be a hard start from the dropping of the flags in the pen!


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 4:16 pm
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@robbo1234biking

I’m still at 67kg with FTP 215.

I won’t be able to make the 1st four races as I’m working away again, I’ve signed up for them though.

PITA, as I wanted to start the year on a good run of races during the week, with a long ride at weekend! 😢


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 5:23 pm
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Seems Christmas has been as expected for me - wt up to 81kg
Zwift thinks my FTP is 280 which at least is a tad up from the last series, too


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 10:56 pm
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Haven’t managed to do an FTP test yet, but I know you need our stats. But my garmin is usually giving me 308W for zwift rides (or slightly less some days), which feels about right, and I’m a mere 97 kg. Will update after I get a ramp test done, but if you can use that for now that would be great.


 
Posted : 02/01/2021 10:57 pm
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Just had a panic thinking it was Monday and I'd missed the deadline to update my weight and FTP, but it's Sunday!

Even though a vast majority of it was at z2/3, I'm still feeling the fatigue from doing the extra saddle time during the Festive 500, ~20 hours since 21st Dec, about the same as I managed from 27th Nov to 20th Dec.

Will see how I feel later as regards an FTP test, might have to use an estimate from Crickles for now, but I will jump on the scales.


 
Posted : 03/01/2021 10:14 am
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68 signed up so far.

Thanks everyone for the updates. Cut of is this evening in case you arent sure what day it is post xmas (it is a Sunday today!).

Did a ramp test this morning and boosted my FTP from 280w to 287w so pretty happy with that.

@munkeymadness @bedmaker I have sent you a PM to clarify a couple of details (not sure if notifications are working for PMs at the moment as I had 5 messages that I has no notifications for and if you browse on your phone it doesnt come up automatically). If you can get back to me - cheers!


 
Posted : 03/01/2021 1:39 pm
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I was completely lying. I’m 91kg. That would have helped my handicap!! Sorry Robbo!


 
Posted : 03/01/2021 1:46 pm
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Robbo, add Crust in please, same figures as previously


 
Posted : 03/01/2021 1:52 pm
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Hi Robbo, surprisingly weight has remained the same over Christmas period at 75kg. Completed Sufferfest Half Monty yesterday and came out with an ftp of 230W. Looking forward to Tuesday, I think.


 
Posted : 03/01/2021 2:02 pm
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Cheers all. Got that.

Just realised that my FTP bump puts me into Cat B 🙁 no way I will be able to compete with the Bs though!


 
Posted : 03/01/2021 2:05 pm
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Had a practice at racing this morning, remember now why I've only ever done 2 previously.

I'm blaming heavy legs from yesterday's quatch quest and not giving myself long enough to warm up for my poor performance.

Think Tuesday could be interesting!


 
Posted : 03/01/2021 2:17 pm
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Robbo, can you update my vital statistics please.

76kg and 258w

Cheers dood


 
Posted : 03/01/2021 8:19 pm
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I've just discovered my trainer bike's chain and cassette have done 9500(virtual)km! No wonder the shifting has gone to pot and there were horrible noises coming from the bike. Hopefully the gravel bike will suffice for Tuesday (giving it a run out this evening as a test). Not ideal preparation.


 
Posted : 03/01/2021 8:23 pm
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I'll see if I can make this first race..not 100% sure ATM..

My figures may as well stay the same - weight is the same (I mean, it varies by 3kg per day sometimes! But the average is still the same)
FTP is PROBABLY lower, but I haven't done an FTP test so no way of telling!

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Posted : 03/01/2021 9:32 pm
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Damn! Just did a ramp test and got 304W FTP (ignore this please Robbo and use the other value). 😭😭😭 gutted. Not convinced I got everything out though, didn't even attempt the 440W block and could definitely have done part of it. Looks like I may have failed the 420W block as well (lesson, don't relax till past the line.

Gravel bike is so quiet and nice however still have an odd squeak. Only things the same are trainer and pedals, hmm.


 
Posted : 03/01/2021 9:54 pm
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This reminds me to do a recce ride on the course tomorrow, a few laps to learn the hills etc as I always do the Jungle loop as part of a bigger one so can never remember it!


 
Posted : 03/01/2021 10:07 pm
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It is pretty much hill, bridge, downhill but not sure how the race will unfold. A few places to attack or catch people out.

For anyone new to the series it will start of fast and hard (like a normal Zwift race).

Nixie - I won’t count that one don’t worry. My ramp test earlier I felt like I should have gone another 10-20 seconds. HR hadn’t got to previous peaks.


 
Posted : 03/01/2021 10:24 pm
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How long roughly will the race tomorrow take?


 
Posted : 04/01/2021 11:14 am
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Last 3 laps I did on road bikes (which I think predates the rolling resistance changes) was 44 minutes @ 4.1 Wpkg. On that basis I'm expecting 50ish minutes for myself.


 
Posted : 04/01/2021 11:22 am
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Hello All

Spreadsheet is now updated with the handicaps for tomorrows race. If you are new to the series the handicap works by adding your handicap time to your finishing time in zwift but I do all of this in the results spreadsheet afterwards. The points are then awarded based on the handicap times. If you think I have made a mistake with your handicap time let me know. The first course is still more dependent on outright power rather than climbing so the higher power riders will have a higher handicap.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QPxMGqez2VsN-4mD17f90t06NzqSLMMoGe4cUEK1E3U/edit#gid=0

It is a normal zwift race start so as soon as the clock hits zero it will be a mad rush to establish your position on the road.

With regards to the categories I have done the categories based on the FTP and the weight you have provided so it may be different to your ZP category. The categories only come in for the GC so if you are on the cusp of moving up a cat or down a cat and would prefer to race in the other cat let me know (although I’m not going to let a Cat A race in a Cat C!). I don’t want it to be demotivating and I am happy to be flexible. I have messaged a few people who are on the cusp and most were up for the challenge of moving up to the next cat.

This is where the categories I have used are based on: https://www.zwift.com/news/12012-zwift-how-to-choose-your-cycling-race-category

Finally the event will force you onto a MTB at the start. If you don’t have a MTB in your stable then the Zwift MTB will be assigned to you. If you have some drops you can always purchase one. Some info here from Zwift Insider on the different MTBs but I really don’t think there is much difference between them! https://zwiftinsider.com/updated-mtb/

Also if you are new to the series wear whichever jersey you want – some people wear the bumblebee jersey as we started wearing that but go for something identifiable to yourself.

I think it will take between 45mins to an hour depending on how the bikes roll etc based on a recent TTT on the same route.

Good luck all – looking forward to it.


 
Posted : 04/01/2021 11:34 am
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Oh and is there someone with the name Bramwell on here? They are signed up to the race series but I don't have any stats for them or recognise them with a forum username! Cheers


 
Posted : 04/01/2021 12:01 pm
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robbo1234biking

Oh and is there someone with the name Bramwell on here?

Dunno, but I've got a jar of his pickle in the fridge!!


 
Posted : 04/01/2021 12:15 pm
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Thanks everyone for the updates. Cut of is this evening in case you arent sure what day it is post xmas (it is a Sunday today!).

Aargh! completely missed this. Guess I'll just have to try harder to offset the xmas weight gain. Also got a new more accurate turbo so fully expecting my FTP to go down too 🙁


 
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Dunno, but I’ve got a jar of his pickle in the fridge!!

Is there a lorena bobbitt joke in there too? Certainly there should be one somewhere but I can't find it.


 
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