That's lovely, I thought I preferred the purple colour but I'm not sure now. It's worth tinkering with the tyre pressure on Surly Knards, I've found the sweet spot to be around 10-11psi on the front (fine at that pressure or even a little lower with wide rims and tubes).
Anybody using double or triple cranks?
All of them so far are ss or 1xN.
Yes, I've found ~10psi good for the Knard
THat's tubeless on ZTR Flows
10psi was too low for me with Dually rim and a tube - up to about 12-13 (although that's based on a shonky little gauge on my track pump)
About 11 psi on gorilla tape tubeless Rabbit hole, measured with cheapo digi pressure gauge here.
Lot of nice builds emerging.
So..just started building my frame. Ardent 2.4 and Knard aired up easily on Flows (Ardent is big on flow - I measure it as about 61mm with a ruler). However when I fit the rear wheel the 2.4 Ardent is [u]very [/u]tight on the seatstays. It looks like a couple of mm of clearance. When the tyre rotates it buzzes the seatstays. Chainstay clearance is ok. No way it will work in mud or even hard cornering.
Anyone experience this? Frame is advertised as running with 2.4 and 2.5 rears (although I know the WTB 2.5 Weirwolf is smaller than some 2.3's).
As it stands it looks like I will have to put a different rear on, probably no bigger than 2.3.
That's bad news Clink. I have a 2.4" X-King that comes up big on a Dually (39mm) on mine and it has at least 1/4" in all directions.
Doesn't help you, but proves that 2.4 can fit...
Ta. I know 2.4 Ardent comes up big. I've got a 2.3 Ground Control which I'm pretty sure will fit.
Agree the Ardent is tight. No buzz here, even on cornering, (On Rabbit holes, so maybe comes up squarer?)
I wouldn't run it in winter that tight. Wondered whether a Bonty XR 2 would be another summer option, they come up pretty big as well.
I can't run an Ardent on a 35mm Blunt in the back of my Jones, but a 2.35 Ikon fits. The Ardent is just a huge 2.4
The above purple bike with purple bits is nicest bike I have seen in ages. Tempted!
Anyone know the frame weight yet?
im liking this bike more than any other ive seen for a long time, but cant afford to build one up right now :-/ many moons ago i got a singular swift on the cyclescheme, dont spose these are available the same way?
I can't run an Ardent on a 35mm Blunt in the back of my Jones, but a 2.35 Ikon fits. The Ardent is just a huge 2.4
The 2.4 Ardent fit's fine mounted on a RH rim in the rear of the newer Jones.
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I've just found an old type 2.4 racing ralph in my garage and fitted that and it's even biggerer but still fits in.
It looks almost as big as the knard on a RH. 😀
Like the colour of those electric green shorts Stu. Have you got a full frontal shot?
Yeah, my 2.4 Racing Ralph is a tight squeeze, but no buzz, and despite low (low 20's) pressure
Of me or the bike? 😆
I can fit a racin ralf (old) 2.4 and ardent 2.4 in my Jones, mine is a pre Tai model too. IIRC , the ardent was bigger. Not much mud room, but no buzz.
Ralf is biggerer.
It used to rub the chainstays on hard cornering on my merlin jones and that was mounted on a flow.
Ardent was fine in the same frame.
sadexpunk, worth getting touch with Charlie the Bikemonger or Keep Pedalling in Manchester re Cyclescheme, they're both dealers and both are probably on the scheme.
Just to remind everyone also, a Stooge frameset is up for grabs as one of the prizes in SSUK14.
I haven't had either on mine for a while, didn't get any rub with a 35mm Gordo rim, but I suppose the tires vary slightly in sze due to production tolerance and PSI - currently running a 2.55 weirwolf, out back and a HUDU UL on the front.
didn't [s]get any rub with a 35mm Gordo rim [/s]give it any shit with hard cornering
😆
Or maybe the Flow was more flexible than a Gordo? There's a reason Jeff recommended those rims.
All about that Stooge 'n that... http://yeahyeahyeahyeah-yeah.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/stooge-cycles-progressive-29er.html
unofficial frame and fork weights on my kitchen scale:
* fork with starr nut and crown race 1300g
* frame with ebb, hanger and orbit mx installed 3000g (orbit mx ~100g)
so no weight weeny stuff as expected
9.5 pounds - you're not kidding 😉
Its not a lite frameset (as expected), maybe only the fork is a bit heavier then expected, especially comparing it with excellent salsa cromoto grande (1080g).
Maybe mr stooge can post more accurate official weights now.
I love the blog Placid Casual 🙂
Aye cracking write up. Fork isn't light, but feels the right balance of strong but just compliant enough with a hurt big 3" tyre and wheel up front.
Ardent on a flow was fine for me too, just the blunt that caused some rub. Maybe the tyre's stretched with age. Anyway DHR II is my favourite SS rear these days. The sidewalls have magic properties.
The bike's no lightweight but it certainly doesn't feel like a lump, even on the ups. That said, weight weenies should look elsewhere.
I'll use the Park Tools scales in work on wednesday and get the real weight. I don't think it's anywhere hear 9lbs, but having said that, it was built to last with extreme riding. The last thing i wanted was a flexy, noodly framset. My whole bike is 26lbs, no heavyweight.
I will i will get the weight and post it up here 🙂
In a nice way (because I have send Cheezpleez' Stooge, like it and would happily ride it) I think it's hilarious that the end product of 30 year of MTB evolution is, basically, a shopping bike.
The Edwardians got it (nearly) right first time.
Extreme shopping is the new enduro.
Really enjoyed the write up Placid Casual.
Singlespeedstu. Mounted my Ardent 2.4 on the Merlin Spaceframe I've just got back, seems plenty of room on the Gordo, definitely cornered hard/pushed into slide(front sticks with Nate rear can't cope... And no rub. It is however on a King SS hub with CXrays so as dishless as it gets on a std dropout.
I've noticed on my FS 29s that the wheel stiffness makes a big difference to rub as you'd expect. I got way less rub with the same tyre when using my Enve wheels..now for sale...
Chainline.
It wasn't the Ardent that rubbed it was the Ralph.
Arden was fine.
Ralphy less so but great in the new steel spaceframe mounted on a RH.
I'll get some pics of it it's hoogey.
Glad to see you've been reunited with your spaceframe.
Try not to lose it again. 😉
Chainline.
It wasn't the Ardent that rubbed it was the Ralph.
Arden was fine.
Ralphy less so but great in the new steel spaceframe mounted on a RH.
I'll get some pics of it it's hoogey.
Glad to see you've been reunited with your spaceframe.
Try not to lose it again. 😉
Singlespeedstu, aha my mistake. I'll try not too, have more security now, but it's never foolproof...it's been a very pleasant reunion so far.
Just finished my build... Hope I'm not too late to the party..
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Singlespeed
Hope Pro 2 SS / 9mm bolt in mod front
Dually's on chunky monkey rear (5mm clearance at seat stays)/knard front.
Hope headset, BB, stem,pedals
Tech 3 E4 brakes and floaters.
Middleburn Uno 32 crankset.
Thompson elite post
Flux saddle, may switch for brooks cambium.
On one OG bars feel good so far may try a flat bar...
Nice - first SS I've seen
You prefer a straight seatpost?
How does she ride?
That's really really nice! Well Jeal!
Sweet looking build 🙂
By the way, re earlier questions about frame weight, Park Tools digital scales tell me the frame is 5lbs 14ozs. Let's call it 6 lbs.
the frame is 5lbs 14ozs. Let's call it 6 lbs.
Is that including forks?
I highly doubt it!
Me too, just askin'.
Including the EBB?
