[Closed] specific Strava ebike segments, whats the point

Its so they don't spoil all the fun for the real cyclists innit

because they're allowed to care/race/push themselves too.

it's about strava's classifications - strava regards e-bike as a different activity rather than as a sub-category of cycling

presumably whoevers got the fastest engine will win the KOMs anyway..

Do we have to do this again?

Not men, not women, but something else - I like your way of thinking whatyadoinsucka.

Who knows what goes through the minds of ebikers as they masquerade through the woods? Maybe it's like you say, and they have competitions for biggest battery, longest skids or things like that?

Do we have to do this again?

Battery gauge says we are still half full, so good for another 10 pages, a couple of flounces and some awesomeness before the power goes and everything grinds to a halt.

Weird isn’t it? I have no idea why strava is set up like that. I ride my ebike as a normal bike on strava but privately so I don’t show on leaderboards but can still compare my own segment times if I want to. I set up half the segments on my local trails, I’ll be damned if I’m doing them again!

@nbt that makes sense as to why segment have to be setup specificially for ebikes, it just seems like an unneeded effort

exactly @chiefgroove its strange they use seperate segments, use the same but classify as an ebike.
I'm sure one day we'll have non binary sections :0)

anyway i cheat with my 11 gears, when i should be singlespeeding..

it’s about strava’s classifications – strava regards e-bike as a different activity rather than as a sub-category of cycling

Looks to me like a coding issue easy to create a look a like category poss hard to create a rules driven sub category ....follow the money?

Disclaimer...Only a marginal Strava user pulling gpx files and checking heatmaps

It's the different activity thing. You wouldn't want all the running segments showing up on a ride. Fair enough I say, it's easy enough to replicate the cycling segments into equivalent ebike segments if you want to compare times, on a descent for instance. Comparing climbing between normal bicycles and those with engines is pointless and those clogging the normal leaderboards with e-bike rides are just selfish tools IMHO.

Who knows what goes through the minds of ebikers as they masquerade through the woods? Maybe it’s like you say, and they have competitions for biggest battery, longest skids or things like that?

You missed out biggest smile, I’ve got all the KOMs for that on my ebike.
It’s when the sides of your mouth go up Garry.

Are you saying the ebike functionality doesn't contain the existing cycling segments? That is a serious oversight IMO.

You should be able to classify your bike, then after each ride when you pick the bike it puts you in the right category.
Far more sensible than expecting people to setup whole new segments.

Yeah it sucks, so I just use it in normal mode but set to private, so it tracks all of my rides on either type of bike. The only things I'm interested in are ride distance, height and ability to refer back to them in the future.

LOL! I have to confess to having a massive dislike of ebikes, but concede that they are here to stay and give lots of cyclists an opportunity to access the activity that may not be possible on a conventional bike.

I think classing them as a a different creature is wrong though. Yes, it annoys me when people on ebikes come sailing past me on hills (when I'm about to pass out with effort and they're barely breaking sweat) but at least treat them like human beings. Next there'll be a law that they have to ride with a leper Bell on the front of their ebike!

You could argue that someone taking a kom while sat in a peleton is wrong when comparing to solo riders and so on and so on and...

You could argue that someone taking a kom while sat in a peleton is wrong when comparing to solo riders and so on and so on and…

I’m sure the TdF organisers would be straight on to that.

Are you saying the ebike functionality doesn’t contain the existing cycling segments? That is a serious oversight IMO.

its about context though. in the states an e-bike could also refer to a throttle controlled battery powered bike. they dont have the assist rules we have. this explains why americans seem to be much more anti e-biuke that us. it explains why e-bikes are flat banned from lots of mtb trails as they are legally classified as motorised vehicles.

I don't use Strava but now I know there's a big skid leaderboard I think I'll sign up to it.
Sounds like fun.

I’m still learning skids as they were only invented when ebikes came out.

@ chakaping, exactly thats my thoughts.

I'm not here to slate ebikes (much)

@Kamakazie thats how i would have set it up,

I can't realistically see myself taking to ebiking, but at the same time I don't see why you wouldn't just take across all the segments even if it is a different activity (which seems reasonable as alpine skiing, xc skiing and so on are).
Then again I can't see why Strava doesn't automatically filter out people "riding" at 50mph along flat segments whilst averaging 15mph for the ride...

Segments are user created in every sport in Strava.
ebike rides are categorised as another sport.
So create your own segments if you want to compete against other deluded folk in a mickey mouse virtual motor assisted "race"
Creating uphill segments for Ebikes is laughable.
For flat segments it's even worse as many bikes will be unrestricted
and for descents it's only fair to compete against regular bikes if you genuinely don't use the motor at all to re-gain speed anywhere on the descent. (So switched off)

There's honestly no one to compete against on Strava on an Ebike anywhere near me anyway so I just log the miles with Strava set to private, occasionally look at the odd descent time to see if it stacked up to my regular bike times. But only if I felt I was fastAF.

Ps. I've never lost a longest skid comp in my life.
I've also never had one on an Ebike (done hunners on normal bikes)

I think that normal segments should have an E bike category otherwise there is no insensitive not to cheat it also means you can go out and ride with normal bikes and ride the Same segments, round my way there isn't many ebike segments, I don't ride an E bike but I see people I know are on E bikes on normal leader boards, no fair