And the brakes and the forks.

Gopping bars and saddle.

And....VALVES/LOGOS, FFS!

Otherwise, very nice. 🙂

Sorry, but I have to disagree.

It's a bit of a jack of all trades, not a true crosser, not a true road bike, which may be the intention, but I don't think it looks good.

And the tyre logos not lining up with the valves

And the mahoosive excess loop of cable feeding the rear mech

And the length of the excess cable

Other than that, it's ok I suppose. But it doesn't set my heart racing

needs a horizontal top tube. standover be damned!

...and the saddle is grim, and I think he's got spacers in the levers to reduce the pull, which even I don't need and my hands are small.

It's a bit like seeing your sister in a bikini; all the right bits in all the right places, but just not right to look at.

Being super picky, IMO it wants the centrelines of the seatstays, seat tube and top tube to intersect at a single point. But other than that, and putting the downward-pointing saddle and stumpy stem down to personal preference, it's rather lovely.

Slightly perturbed by it appearing to have rack mounts but not mudguard eyelets. Odd. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

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Well, I like it...

Frame and forks are nice. Crankset disgusting. No idea why you'd send a bike to a photoshoot withthat saddle but if you did, would you not slide it forward on the rails a bit? But I don't think that takes away from it too much, very handsome.

Are they braking surfaces on the rims? On a bike with disk brakes?

"[i]would you not slide it forward on the rails a bit?[/i]"

I have all mine slammed back so it looks quite forward to me 🙂

"[i]Are they braking surfaces on the rims? On a bike with disk brakes?[/i]"

Works IMO - breaks up the mass of blackness, makes the wheels look a bit lighter and more slender.

makes the wheels look a bit lighter and more slender.

Disc wheels are lighter, as they don't need to build in the strength in the braking surface. 🙂

@crikey...thanks for that 😕

This. This just looks sooo right:

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* Edit: apart from the stem (and spacers), Oh, okay and maybe the saddle and seatpin.. 🙄

You've seen her too then?

crikey - Member
not a true crosser

Could you cope with life without all your little labels? 😛

Bez - Member
Being super picky, IMO it wants the centrelines of the seatstays, seat tube and top tube to intersect at a single point.

Try getting the brake caliper in the rear triangle then!

CaptainFlashheart - Member

Disc wheels are lighter, as they don't need to build in the strength in the braking surface

Ermmm...no.

This looks right when built up.

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Stop tempting me 🙁

Al, I was talking about the way it looks, which is subjective, personal and probably nonsense!

Northwind - Check the latest post for final go at it!

Sorry, I thought I was reading a thread on nice looking bikes but can't see any.

Job done Samurai

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This. This just looks sooo right:

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Total disaster I'm afraid! Seriously ugly bike.

Awkward line from top tube, shock mount, shock to chain stays. Hideous stem, rise, spacers + riser combo makes it look a bit hybridish. Too many blue anodized bits of tat clashing with the green frame decals. Cables and hoses too long. Gopping WTB saddle.

I'm not going to claim the Five is a looker but it's a stunner next that Pivot…

Pivots have got to be the ugliest FS bikes on the market! Looks only a mother could love...

Coming from someone who owns a Maverick!

"[i]Try getting the brake caliper in the rear triangle then![/i]"

I don't see how lifting the top tube a few mill affects the rear caliper 😉

Wow, some right gobby twonks on here tonight! 🙂

Anyway in no particular order :

apart from the chainset for some reason.

I kinda agree. Not sure why, it looks big and, well, big....

And the brakes and the forks.

sigh....

Gopping bars and saddle.

bollocks to both of those....

And....VALVES/LOGOS, FFS!

calm doon. The valve holes are opposite the logo on these rims so the logo on the tyre stays beside the logo on the rim. Otherwise you'd have logos opposite each other. Don't you know nuffink?

It's a bit of a jack of all trades, not a true crosser, not a true road bike

erm yes.. that's the point....

And the mahoosive excess loop of cable feeding the rear mech

Pish. It's the right length.

it wants the centrelines of the seatstays, seat tube and top tube to intersect at a single point.

No it doesn't. It wants the negative space of the front and rear triangles to work together. Which it does.

Slightly perturbed by it appearing to have rack mounts but not mudguard eyelets. Odd. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

Correct, you're not looking hard enough. It has rack and mudguard eyelets. But don't be perturbed, it's only a bike.

No idea why you'd send a bike to a photoshoot withthat saddle but if you did, would you not slide it forward on the rails a bit?

No I wouldn't, because it's customers bike set up and built to fit him. (same answer for the stem haters and the lever reach adjustment doubters) Oh, and sending to a photoshoot means wheeling to the other side of the workshop, leaning it up against the black paper and clicking the clicky thing on the camera. Don't over think it. 🙂

Disc wheels are lighter, as they don't need to build in the strength in the braking surface.

Except in this case, the A23 for rim brakes has a machined sidewall when the disk version doesn't so the non disk version is actually lighter!

But I actually agree, we almost always spec the disk version but we had no stock and neither did the distributors.

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That looks "right"!

bollocks to both of those....

I like that Undead - but I dunno how anyone could buy from them with any confidence after their disaster with the DH bike.

Saw pics of the mud clearance on the frame in BikeRumor also - there's NONE

CaptainFlashheart - Member

Disc wheels are lighter, as they don't need to build in the strength in the braking surface

Ermmm...no.

The Undead is Evils new DH bike mate..

gmex619 - Member
The Undead is Evils new DH bike mate..

I know - the previous DH bike, where ALL the frames broke, and all the replacement frames broke, and the eventual answer was "er, we'll desing a new carbon bike and give you that frame when it's ready ina few years"

The pic I posted is the uprising (150mm trail bike)

Ah, right. I meant uprising. Either way, I wouldn't trust an Evil frame - not for a generation or two.

You want "Right".. Look at this and tell me there's anything wrong with it.

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(Besides the holes in the rims.. They are being fixed as soon as I find suitable valve extenders. And NO I DID NOT CUT THEM.)

Whoops.. Didn't realise it wasn't an Undead. 😳

A friend ofmine has a previous DH frame from Evil and loved it.. No cracking issues and would love another.

Must admit though that I'd like one too despite there reputation for cracking..

"[i]Correct, you're not looking hard enough. It has rack and mudguard eyelets.[/i]"

Then all is well with the world 🙂 Still can't see 'em on the fork but then I actually do need to go to Specsavers 😐

Anyhoo... Do you do forks on their own?

qmex, get out.

*Bike porn! NSFW!*

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My name begins with a "g" mate 😉

But wow.. That looks amazing..

Even looks like a reproduction Bullseye crank.

gmex619 - Member
Whoops.. Didn't realise it wasn't an Undead.

A friend ofmine has a previous DH frame from Evil and loved it.. No cracking issues and would love another.

Must admit though that I'd like one too despite there reputation for cracking..

Yeah, the Revolt (I had to google it) looked ace, and was supposed to be a great bike, but there were just so many problems, and no warranty replacement frames - they really messed it up.

The Undead is more or less the same frame in carbon. It does look amazing. I'll wait for their next bike, at least.

To be honest.. I've not seen or heard alot about the Undead dying. (Besides test frames)

Also all of the Revolt owners who's frames failed got free Undead warranty replacements.. (If covered under warranty).

With the underlining it looked more like a q.
It's single ring, so the Di2 shifters just have one button on the end of each tri bar extension. A thing of beauty and engineering.

I'm guessing I'm not the only one that thinks this, but there is a direct relationship between the angle between the top tube and seat stays of a hardtail, and how good looks. ie, My medium BFe looks better than a large, but not as good as a small.

Fair does. 🙂

Carbon ring too or is it just the colour?

Di2 does seem a waste on it though.. More weight..

gmex619 - Member

Also all of the Revolt owners who's frames failed got free Undead warranty replacements.. (If covered under warranty).

They did - but the Undead hadn't been designed at the time, never mind produced - so n bike for a year or two.

Carbon ring too or is it just the colour?

IIRC it's a decal on a normal chainring. Might be wrong though.

Di2 does seem a waste on it though.. More weight..

True, but an end shifter wouldn't look quite as neat. Add a hub gear and it would look incredible!!

shandcycles - Member

No I wouldn't, because it's customers bike set up and built to fit him.

Well, there's no way to say this without sounding like a **** but it doesn't look like it was built to fit him- it looks like it's too short and he's had to push the seat back to try and sort it. Now I'm not saying that's what's actually happened, bike fit is a personal choice but that's the first impression it gives me.

So tell him that, and I'll have it off him for a pound 😉 least I can do. TBF i think it's lovely other than a couple of minor details.

Have too agree with Northwind here.. First impression screams bad sizing.

Also Jim: Hub gear? Di2 is lighter than an Alfine or something.. Plus not sure you can do it with a disc..

This thread says why we all love our kids and why we aren't all talented artist in one easy read.

gmex, I never said it would be lighter. And you're right, it probably isn't possible, but it would look cool as all hell.

Well, there's no way to say this without sounding like a **** but it doesn't look like it was built to fit him- it looks like it's too short and he's had to push the seat back to try and sort it.

Saddle set back has little to do with whether a bike is too "long" or "short". Its also set right in the middle of the seatpost, so I'd say the seat tube angle and set back is bang on!

The frame looks ok apart from the placement of the cable stop for the rear mech outer.

The short upright stem looks shite though, as does the chainset, mtb cassette, mtb rear mech, saddle and non-disc rims.

The Shand Stoater I saw at the Bespoked Bristol Show was the nicest bike there IMO. Lovely built frame. I really want one 😥

You see, this is why I'm not showing you lot any of my frames 😉

Sizing looks good to me - the saddle isn't particularly far back.

I like this eriksen, not entirely convinced on the lefty fork though but if came home to find the postie had left such a bike in my shed wi a lefty fork i doubt i'd kick off.

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Nuclear option!

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Sizing is the least of the issues about the bike in the OP - to be honest I think it looks fine. The fact it's a customer's bike built as he wanted probably means it looks beautiful to him, but you can't dismiss the objections lots of other people have to it because of that.

Road rims are properly heavy! 465g for an Open Pro, compare to about 340g for a Stans Alpine.

Yeah, because that's really comparing like with like 🙄 How much does a Notubes Alpha rim weigh (or even an AC CR350), how much an X317?

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Ahhh aracer beat me to it. Mind you I have some 16" rim-brake rims that are lighter than my 29er disc ones, so maybe he's right.

gmex619 PLEASE tell me you are having a laugh. Aero rims on any mtb, let alone a burly-ish HT?

Then all is well with the world Still can't see 'em on the fork but then I actually do need to go to Specsavers

they're on the inside of the fork leg about 1/4 of the way up, so they don't interfere with the calliper. There's also an eyelet on the underside of the crown.

Anyhoo... Do you do forks on their own?

Not at the moment.

Well, there's no way to say this without sounding like a **** but it doesn't look like it was built to fit him- it looks like it's too short and he's had to push the seat back to try and sort it. Now I'm not saying that's what's actually happened, bike fit is a personal choice but that's the first impression it gives me.

Wow, I'm impressed, I've been doing this every day for 10 years and thought I was pretty good but it turns out you can tell if a bike fit is wrong without even seeing the rider! When can you start?

It's one of our production frames and it's set up for the customer. The saddle is where it needs to be to get the correct setback. Which is actually smack bang in the middle of saddle rails. If you say it's wrong though, I'm sure you're right. 😕

First impression screams bad sizing.

What a load of old gash.

Saddle set back has little to do with whether a bike is too "long" or "short". Its also set right in the middle of the seatpost, so I'd say the seat tube angle and set back is bang on!

Ah, someone with some sense....

oh, hang on...

The frame looks ok apart from the placement of the cable stop for the rear mech outer.

Ah, ok, the Shimano OEM spec book must be wrong. Where should the stop be and I'll let them know?

mtb cassette

It's not.

mtb rear mech

It's not. but if you'd prefer me to fit a short cage I will. It won't work with the triple chainset but when the customer complains I'll tell him not to worry 'cause some keyboard jock on STW said it's ok.

Chainset...
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Other than that I think it looks ace

As mountain bikes go I think this looks more 'right' than most:

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Blimey, that Kona is almost there. Chainset looks awful though.

Blimey, that Kona is almost there. Chainset looks awful though.

+1.
The BMC full sus ^^ is also almost there; in fact for a full sus it's very good looking indeed given that most full sus bikes look like the bastard offspring of a crash in a Meccano factory and an explosion in a paint factory.

This is nice:

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It looks purposeful, reasonably minimalist without the huge screaming graphics a lot of bikes seem to be afflicted with yet aethestically pleasing. I'd say it needed black bar tape though. And it should have been photographed in the big chainring.

^^ that's quite nice, thing I don't like about it are/is the yellow'ish rims on the tyres, I hate that kinda thang, they should be either white(gash) or black, simple. The bar tape is ok but then the saddle should match the colour, white. It's got the wrong cranks on it, should be mechanical Red.

Nice though.

I'm all for Niner Air9C but I'm not posting a pic of one... That's a gorgeous looking bike.

I have yet to see a nice looking FS, the nearest I can find is SC's Tallboy LT.

I'll find a pic of a drop bar fatty, one that was on a Rapha Blog a while back, now that looked fabulous..

No. The English is wrong. The rear triangle looks like it's off a full suss bike.
Post of a picture of your track bike. That'll settle this argument. 😉

I'm surprised Shand didn't show the Pink Stooshie they posted on Facebook the other day...

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*swoon*

shandcycles - Member

If you say it's wrong though, I'm sure you're right.

Not being funny but you even quoted the part of my post where I said exactly the opposite. But if you want to be offended, that's your right I'm sure.

Not being funny but you even quoted the part of my post where I said exactly the opposite. But if you want to be offended, that's your right I'm sure.

fair enough, just wanted to put my point across... I 'aint gonna be offended, it's just bikes, innit? 🙂

Old Konas generally always look good:

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Old Konas generally always look good:

Unless they are mine 😈

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Scary twitchy ditch-magnet b*&*ard of a thing to ride... "I will kill you!"

just received one of these...
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Simple build, easy to ride and nice colour scheme. It looks like a proper bike.

It's got the wrong cranks on it, should be mechanical Red.

SRAM red cranks with Shimano gearing and brakes? FSA is fine but the black/white SL:K would have been better although you'd have got grey-silver chainrings

Both of these: drop bar fatties..

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And no, that English should be kitted out all in Red.

I'm all for Niner Air9C but I'm not posting a pic of one... That's a gorgeous looking bike.

I can post a pic of one if you want chap? 😉

No flange, please noooooo 😆

Have you raced it yet?

I haven't mate. I've been ill for a fair while so lack of fitness is keeping me away from the races at the moment. In fact, it's still hung in the shop next to this...

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RDO too, those are A-head wheels which are jolly nice. And jolly expensive. No Ki2 though so mine wins....

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With the exception of the Konas, obviously, you're all wrong... this is awesumz to the power of rad:

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[i]I'm surprised Shand didn't show the Pink Stooshie they posted on Facebook the other day...[/i]

Now that's nice.

Though there's a bit of an optical illusion going on with the wheels, I like to think my steed is almost as pretty as the scenery.

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