Roadies incoming in 3....2....1....
Two-time champ Richie Rude and one-time champ Jared Graves have both confirmed to Pinkbike that they tested positive for Higenamine (banned in and out of competition) and Oxilofrine (banned in-competition) at the third round of the series in France. They say that their failed tests were due to accidental ingestion.
Not knowing much, what are these 2 ?
Oxilofrine is an amphetamine (used by sprinters) and not really sure how you would accidentally ingest it?
Possibly a fat burner/ maybe some respiratory benefits for Higenamine. Sounds good for a slightly tubby chronic asthmatic like myself - where can I get some?
It states later in the article - one is an asthma drug to help open the airways & increase lung volume (why can't I have this sh*t as a genuine asthma sufferer!?)
The other is an amphetamine, so it increases alertness.
They could have just claimed to be asthmatic & smashed a load of espresso's for (maybe) similar results...
If it turns out to be true in the official statements, that's pretty dissapointing.
Interesting...accidental or not, the pressure to perform at the top must be massive, so hearing this isn't a total surprise.
Hopefully it will be sorted quickly and efficiently.
Until we find out all the details I'm hoping for accidental ingestion.
not really sure how you would accidentally ingest it?
Seems like they're angling to blame their supplement sponsor, who of course is going to have none of that
Plus some suggestion that higenamine can help with erectile dysfunction. Bonus!
Until we find out all the details I’m hoping for accidental ingestion.
As also stated in the article - accidental or not it's up to them to control what they're ingesting, so they're still in trouble
it's sad, not surprised about Rude
Graves is having a bad year. small sample but 2 of nine!
Plus some suggestion that higenamine can help with erectile dysfunction. Boners!
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Where I don't think this is an Armstrong style mass doping program. I still find it strange that these guys who are professional athletes are not taking more care as to what is in their systems.
If it has come from the supplements that they were taking, it's a bit shit on the company's front for providing them with a banned substance. But as is said above, the company will wash their hands of it saying that the Athlete has a responsibility to ensure that they know what is in there system at any time.
I wonder if there are any of the privateers now wondering if they're clean. Some might be using the same supplement,
Sounds good that the tests are being carried out.
Doesn't look to me to be anyone whose not won the TdF 7 times, so I’m not that bothered.
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Minority sport though EWS? So does anyone really care that much?
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Yeah, I feel sorry for Graves.
There are now some supplement companies certifying that there products are free from banned substances.
In the past it has been proved that a supplement did have trace elements of banned substances, but it has now become the default excuse for dopers.
MSP
https://www.thedailybeast.com/banned-stimulant-oxilofrine-hiding-in-at-least-14-supplements
Turns out, even the ones that claim they are free from it - contain the stuff.
Be interesting to see the ews response , the rule book is pretty severe I believe for confirmed failed tests .
Rude certainly has the talent to be winning the series for the next decade or so but anything now will be always be tainted , real shame .
Whether we buy their excuses or not, if this is upheld then they're finished in terms of the EWS rules - which specify a life ban for doping offences. Or could CAS overrule that?
This explains why Spesh had been keeping a low profile after Graves' recent cancer revelation anyway.
No women tested. If these riders did the modern fad of identifying as a gender they are clearly not, no testing & medals all round. Win.
Useful contribution there.
If there is money and sponsorship at stake then people will dope...
That being said a quick google suggests these 2 substances are commonly found in preworkout supplements. I probably have some in the preworkout in the cupboard.
I like Specialized's response which is basically "This is not important, Jared has enough on his plate at the moment."
I'm not surprised that some are cheating.
Hopefully the organisers will have learned from the Road Cycling mess and they will ban those that fail for life.
Hopefully the sponsors will also make it clear that no one should be on a team that has cheated.
As an aside, anyone else relieved it wasn't Sam?
Hopefully the organisers will have learned from the Road Cycling mess and they will ban those that fail for life.
EWS rules are pretty clear that if you dope you never race - will be interesting to see if they have the backbone to stick to that rule with one of their biggest racers being ousted
the modern fad of identifying as a gender they are clearly not
Did you get this from last weeks Daily Mail?
Relived it wasn't Sam?
Was he tested?
I remember the days when people we relived it wasn't Lance that tested positive.....
Theres another 3 riders who have been tested but no names or test results posted.
Relived it wasn’t Sam?
Was he tested?
I remember the days when people we relived it wasn’t Lance that tested positive…..
Are you trying to infer something about Sam Hill here?
.The non confirmed guys is worrying as I assume pinkbike knows who they are and would of asked for a comment either way .
Not really worrying, as there's no specific suggestion that more tests have come back positive.
People are tested regularly in UCI-sanctioned disciplines. Testing is good. Adverse findings are bad.
I appreciate that but you have a situation where 2 riders have acknowledged they failed and 3 have said they took the took the test and had no findings . If I had been tested clear I would want everyone to know .
as for Sam he finished 6th so would he of been automatically tested ? Is it not top 5 then some random tests ?
Perhaps it's a matter of perspective. Those of us who follow road cycling will likely be a bit more relaxed about the other tests.
No women tested. If these riders did the modern fad of identifying as a gender they are clearly not, no testing & medals all round. Win.
An official is required to be in the room at the time of 'providing sample'. No women officials were sent, so no women could be tested. But, you know, go you.
Well the male official could have identified as a woman official for the afternoon and just done the lot.
Wouldn't it be simpler to create a class for dopers taking performance enhancing substances?
After all there is a precedent. Many events have a class for singlespeeders who consume performance inhibiting substances during the event. 🙂
Richie, on the other hand, would no doubt be racing if there isn't an enforced timeout of some sort. However, one possible outcome could be that his EWS sanction is longer than the AFLD/WADA sanction. If that's the case, will we see him racing World Cup downhill instead
How can this, if they are indeed found guilty, even happen!?!?!?!
(Possibly) Fail doping test, get banned from EWS, rock up at UCI DH like nothing has happened.
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Could this possibly open up the EWS to Lance Armstrong?
I think the suggestion is that any UCI/wada ban would be 2 years or so where as the ews rules state that anyone who has failed a test would effectively have a lifetime ban from ews
I think the suggestion is that any UCI/wada ban would be 2 years or so where as the ews rules state that anyone who has failed a test would effectively have a lifetime ban from ews
The EWS lifetime ban would probably get overturned by CAS if someone could afford to go that route. Standard dope sanction is 4 years but if you can prove it was contamination anything from 6months upwards.
You'd be banned from UCI competition (ie WC downhill) as it's a federation/WADA doing the tests.
Pure speculation would have them using someone elses supplements other than their sponsors as it's "more effective" and falling foul of less stringent testing by the manufacturer.
I think the suggestion is that any UCI/wada ban would be 2 years or so where as the ews rules state that anyone who has failed a test would effectively have a lifetime ban from ews
Which is b*llocks anyway as there are already proven guilty drugs cheats racing in the EWS (Karim Armour).
Which is b*llocks anyway as there are already proven guilty drugs cheats racing in the EWS (Karim Armour).
Prior sanction (and was it ever fully official and out in the open?) which would fail at CAS if challenged if they tried to ban someone who had already served a suspension.
EWS rules are pretty clear
EWS also change their rules every year and no one seems bothered. Why would this be any different? 😉
EWS change the rules every year and no one seems bothered.
Well, it's not like it's a real sport.
