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Evans? Richer Sounds? Where is this planet?


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 8:17 pm
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I think that hits is right. Stop cruelt to children with all of your might. Teach your kids this is right. Hope they'll feel the same one day.

You lot maybe the type to walk away or stay quiet but I for one am glad that there's still some decent folk out there.


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 8:47 pm
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Stop cruelt to children with all of your might. Teach your kids this is right. Hope they'll feel the same one day.

Completely agree. But by the same token, isn't letting your child see you using violence also out of order?


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 8:52 pm
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so morgs - you think if you see someone hitting a child you should just walk past if you have your own child with you?


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 9:16 pm
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I think we would all prefer that our children do not see us involve din altercations either verbal or physical. However avoidance may be a greater evil as TJ's example shows


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 9:21 pm
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The correct approach to retail angst.

http://27bslash6.com/f4s.html


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 9:27 pm
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Wow! What a can of worms this thread is!!!! but it's not that black and white IMO.

The situation given by HORA gives many 'outs'. It hadn't got physical yet, so he could have walked away. He could have taken the kid back to the car and gone back in to 'have words'. He could have said 'wind it in, or I'll call the police'. He could have got his phone out and started recording it so blatantly that the guy in the shop just stopped.

Don't get me wrong, I deplore adults that beat up on kids. But I would sooner sit my son down and explain why something is wrong than to have him see me fighting.

My son has just turned 6 - so, yeah, my responses are focused on him being that age. If he was older, say 16 then I'd probably wade in without as much thought to it.

Let me ask you the question - would you steam in with your fists if you had your child(ren) with you if a shopkeeper was swearing at a couple of teens?

Like I say - not that black and white


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 9:32 pm
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What would Glupton do? ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 9:58 pm
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hora . Believe me if you'd have physically touched those children I would have protected them.

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hang on a minute - you're kicking off about the shop owner being abusive to kids, infront of you and your kid, but if he'd have go physical you would have abused him in front of your own son???

So its quite clear -Hora says if the shopkeeper had assaulted the kids he would have intervened and yuou said that he should not infront of his kids


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:02 pm
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my eldest is 6 and I would ask the shopkeeper not to swear.
If he started hitting them I would probably intervene in a splitting up a fight style rather than hitting him.
You are right the OP could have spoken up but we dont know enough about the "customers" to pass comment tbh.


 
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What would Glupton do?

So far we have established it would be some type of zoo based justice.


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:04 pm
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morgs dont back down TJ would not
IIRC you point out TJ has no kids and so he cannot understand ...you then goad him about logos, dogs and helmets.
After 22 pages take the Edinburgh defence ๐Ÿ˜€
I know what you mean reading between the lines you would intervene in a non physical way. Horas post hints that he would have got violent on him though I am not sure this is what he is saying.


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:07 pm
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Classic Hora thread... ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:08 pm
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i kinda got the impression Hora said he would have protected them, as in put himself inbetween them as opposed to protection a la mafia kinda protection but i might have missed if Hora is of Italian descent?


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:19 pm
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The flames are hot (especially those pictures) but this is a serious issue...What if your kid came back home & said that a shop assistant got verbal & threatening?

'I didn't have enough wedge dad & he wanted to smack me because I'm smaller than him & I asked too many questions' - 'It's okay son, most treat young'ns like you with contempt, get used to it'.

I doubt it... ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 10:38 pm
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Rolls eyes, moves on
Stw Sunday night post ride cock waving at it's best


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 11:09 pm
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dare I say it....no can't bring myself to, arrrghhh the conflict..

gonna have to, can't believe it..

TJ is right.. (god what have I said) ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

Old man Hora doesn't say he'll get violent, he just says

Believe me if you'd have physically touched those children I would have protected them

and that to me sounds like the right thing to do

I reckon you can protect people without being violent, n'est-ce pas?


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 11:24 pm
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Is Hora Steven Seagull?


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 11:26 pm
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Should that not be seaview seagull?


 
Posted : 31/07/2011 11:41 pm
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@iain1775: Do you really think that half of these guys have been out on rides yesterday, I think it's more likely that they've sat in the garden polishing their thomson seat-posts up & down thinking of days gone by...

busy fathers are excused but the rest of you type too much! ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 01/08/2011 6:42 am
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Morgs last night.

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Posted : 01/08/2011 8:20 am
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Mmmm. One or two of the staff in there have also been too vocal in taking the piss out customers in ear-shot of other customers (not just once). Might not be entirely relevant other than 'it's not cool' (but I'm sure they think they are). I think one or two staff in there shouldn't be in 'customer service'

Wild guess- he had tattoo's on his arms?

Show violence infront of my son?

This is in a broad and O/T context:

There is something called context. If you get into an argument and punch/headbut someone your son has no reference point to a right or wrong shouting and swearing saying 'come on then you c*nt'.

If you restrain or object/defend someone within a situation and it explained afterwards your son learns a valuable life lesson.

If you do nothing and move on then your own life is none the richer.

Saying all this my Father was a very violent man who hit people out of any sort of context and its not made me the same.


 
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