[Closed] So how would you improve Critical Mass?

Plenty of these:

Celebrating cycling, my arse.

The Taxi Drivers were trying to bully their way through a moving legal procession.

How did you come to that conclusion ?

One of them was trying to pull away from a set of traffic lights as they turned green. And some twunt refused to move in front of him.

And we didn't see what happened leading up to the other two on the bridge, so you are either some kind of mystic psychic, or you are just making stuff up.
( Or you were there, and saw all three incidents first hand)

Which option do you want to take.

[i]The Taxi Drivers were trying to [s]bully their way through a moving legal procession[/s][/i] earn a living, instead of fannying about.

with the right message and info it would help aleviate a bit of friction , most people don't mind being inconvenienced when there is an explanation, its the unknowing that tends to wind people up

ignoring your constant stereotyping of all on here, with **** all knowledge of what i am about, what are you going to write on this leaflet??? You've said with the right info people will tolerate inconvenience, well go on then...

 

One man's freedom fighter does indeed appear to be another mans complete bell end! 🙂

Traffic lights do not give anyone the right of way when there is a legal procession taking place. If you want to talk hypocritical nonsense about not being able to see what is happening then ask your self the same questions..(Thanks for your options but I will talk my own crap thank you)

Some don't have lights you say.. Naughty naughty!(The procession in principle is legal)

Yep always one or 2 who might need 'a kick in the goolies' but that could be said for any group of people.. Let's ban groups of people because there will always be a few who over do it 😀

Let's banish all legal processions so that Taxi drivers can earn their living..(London Taxi drivers are fully aware that this goes on 12 evenings a year)
I think fannying around is important :0) and I'm not fussed if the system got shut down every now and then for a bit more fannying around.

Nothing and nobody is perfect

[quote=theocb ](London Taxi drivers are fully aware that this goes on 12 evenings a year)But as they don't know the route, how can they avoid it?

I didn't say they needed to avoid it! They are aware that this comes with the job 12 evenings a year..

[i]Nothing and nobody is perfect[/i]

Clearly....

..however, this philosophical truth does not excuse bellendery and particularly not bellendery done in the name of cyclists and cycling.

Me me me me me me........theocb how old are you?

Has anyone who previously considered CM to be just a bunch of dicks on bikes causing trouble, had their mind changed by any of the arguments in thread?

Cos that's what it's really about, changing peoples perception of cyclists to make the roads a safer place to be.

And if CM can't convey anything to already committed cyclists, then it's kind of a big fat fail in my view.

Anyone had their minds changed, either way?

Procession

For other uses, see Procession (disambiguation).
A procession (French procession via Middle English, derived from Latin, processio, from procedere, to go forth, advance, proceed) is an organized body of people walking in a formal or ceremonial manner.

Probably not the most accurate, but it suits my purpose.

In summary: "organised", "formal" & "to go forth". Not to stop and be a bloody nuisance. You are allow to go forth, though.

If CM tried that where I live, if [b]anyone[/b] tried to disrupt people getting home from work on a Friday by being bell ends where I live, they would get a lesson in why they shouldn't be bell ends.

It's nothing to do with cycling, it's to do with not being a knob.

Traffic lights do not give anyone the right of way when there is a legal procession taking place.

So what ?

Two out of the three images I have shown, are on a bridge, with [b] no traffic lights[/b] and everyone travelling in the same direction.

And in the only one that did show traffic lights, the lights were green, the Taxi and the cyclist were travelling in the same direction, but the twunt on the bike refused to move 🙄

So...... Where do you get the evidence that the Taxi drivers were "bullying their way through"

Maybe you made it up ?

If you want to talk hypocritical nonsense about not being able to see what is happening then ask your self the same questions..

I did, and the pictures show exactly what I described (as does the video that are from)

Thanks for your options but [b]I will talk my own crap thank you[/b]

I won't be arguing with you on that one.

Also.

If its a "celebration of cycling"

WTF were there so many hipsters on skateboards ?
I've nothing against skateboards, just don't see what they have to do with a "celebration of cyclin"g that's all*
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* unless it's actually nothing to do with cycling really, and just an excuse to dick about and cause trouble and post the videos on YouTube, then it makes perfect sense.

Anyone had their minds changed, either way?

The blogs by the guy that went and joined in *after* seeing tweets about things kicking off, and all the nonsense about legal advisers handing out "bust cards" swung it for me.

Anyone had their minds changed, either way?

Yes, I used to think is was a group of north London Yogurt Weavers and mostly harmless, with the occasional hijacker from the lunatic fringe.

Now i think it's a bunch of weapon grade tools. HTF is anything in that video going to convince anyone to want to ride a bike.

I'm broadly positive about critical mass and hope they don't go away. I think London is a big enough city to fit CM once a month.

I started off wondering if, maybe even hoping that, it wasn't just a bunch of angry young boys with self esteem issues looking for edgy larks.. that maybe something positive was coming from this group that have chosen to very publicly represent cycling on my behalf..

disappointed with the outcome 😐

I was broadly sympathetic to this whole idea until I saw the video. Now I want to get a black fred perry t-shirt and a taxi.
Stop messing around with people's commutes and get a life

Yep, also was broadly sympathetic in principle, Now watched some of the vidoes off the CM site. So annoying seeing something you believe in and participate in most days being bastardised and misrepresented by such a bunch of arseholes. Shame you're too ****ing stupid, or too up your own arses to see the damage you do.

In your own words: "Shame on You".

Mike I think the conclusion is you could improve it by stopping.

Really if this is the reaction of cyclist - have you tried registering on other cycling forum and asking as i rather suspect our response is fairly typical- how on earth do you expect to change the opinions of those who started off disliking cyclists?

Like many I support the aims i just find it to be the most counter productive thing imaginable as these threads demonstrate.

In the court papers from the 2006 case regarding Critical Mass, the person acting on behalf of Critical Mass listed their aims as :

To raise the profile of cycling in towns and cities
Campaigning for better provision for cyclists
To raise awareness about pollution and other problems caused by cars
[b]Getting our own back at motorists
To demonstrate opposition to car culture
To cause disruption[/b]
To feel good about being safe on a bike on roads which are usually dangerous
To create a vision and experience of a possible future
To meet friends and go for a beer later.