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Jonnyt - is that an LX chainset? What rings have you got on that? Or is just standard but with the outer removed?
I'm loking to convert an XT triple to something like 28 - 38
It's an old XT triple, M760/M761 I think. Removed the outer and changed the middle from 32 to 36, so it's now 22/36. Set limit screws on FD so I can't accidentally shift the chain off. Seems to work okay for me.
Was running with single 32 but my legs couldn't cope with 32-32 on the really steep stuff.
So, what would the 29er to 26er ratio be in this thread? 🙂
Still haven't got round to a proper photo of my new race bike. But here it is in action. Intense Hard Eddie, Full XTR, EC90 wheels and finishing kit. Tundra OO saddle. Time ATAC 12 TI pedals. Hope Race brakes, In full race mode its 20.13. Waiting on Scwalbe Rocket Rons to come into stock, That should just nudge it into the 19 zone. Photos to prove it if needs be.
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Frame 2300
Wheels 1463
Forks 1498
Crankset 820
Cassette 280
Tyres 952
Stem 92
Bars 130
Bar ends 46
Seatpost 165
Skewers 44
Saddle 160
Rotors 146
QR 23
Grips 80
Brakes 650
Shifters inc inners 283
Interesting reading. Seems a bit dubious given I have the same tyres and they weigh more on my scales, and my wheels (if they are hope hoops) were also considerably heavier.
Having said I'd be interested to know the spec list for this. My medium Anthem is about 26 lbs and I'm keen to shave off a a lb or 2. 23lbs isn't to hard to believe for a lightish anthem.
Here is last years race bike. Pictures with Stans wheels, in this set up it was 23.5. Later on in the year it had carbon EC90 wheels. This brought it to almost 23 pounds dead but never any less. It gets hard at that point to really start saving much more weights. Unless you where to start going down the routes of some lighter and less durable and practical parts.
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I've just taken delivery of a 2012 anthem x3. Straight out the box with no pedals it weighed 26lbs 10oz. I added my m520 pedals and it went up to 27lbs 12oz. I transferred my hope/crest wheels and xt brakes. Also got rid of all the SRAM stuff and put my shimano shifters and derailleur on. Weight is now 25lbs 9oz
@tpbiker, they are Hopes but Pro3s with 24 spokes. To be honest, they are a bit flexy and they are the only bits that I've wondered whether my weight obsession is excessive, particularly since the forks are Sids and have a bit of flex in themselves. The tyres are the lightest NNs, the 2.1 EVO Tubeless Ready. All the other bits are KCNC from Clee Cycles - the weights they give on their site are genuine.
Apart from the wheels, the big weight savings were the saddle (XLR Flow), the KCNC Rotors, Bars, Seatpost and skewers which were all significantly lighter than the stock bits.
How's it lighter than Richard's one?!
No way is that 23lbs plumz! Judging by the Anthem that is 22.5 yours should be sub 20!
All those extra spokes? A stem twice the length? Seatpost likewise? Different model year frame? Different forks? Variation in the local gravitational field? And perhaps it's not, perhaps it's just different scales. Why does it upset you so much?
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Now with Carbon wheels and a slightly better saddle for not chopping one's bits off when getting one's rear off the back...
Oh and a dropper post as required. Great bike.
TOM B - No way, i work very closely in the cycle industry and have a keen interest in light weight bikes, Sub 20 full suspension is impressive, even more impressive if it was alli frame. The past picture i posted shows my new carbon hard tail. That frame ways 1150 grams and even with full XTR and EC90 kit it takes carbon wheel to get it close to 20 pounds.
However it dosent real matter as 23- 26 pounds anthem ride fantastically, Great bikes at great prices that can do near on anything, I have had several Anthems now and they have done Elite national races, South Africa trail holidays, Alpine weeks and 12 hour solos. Couldn't off asked for more.
All those extra spokes? A stem twice the length? Seatpost likewise? Different model year frame? Different forks? Variation in the local gravitational field? And perhaps it's not, perhaps it's just different scales. Why does it upset you so much?
Doesn't bother me - its clearly the scales thing, as there's no way it is [i]actually[/i] lighter. Merely observing.
Plumz - very pretty bike by the way. What is this year's?
doubt its lighter. Not a million miles away however. Swap round the cranks and kit will weigh similar will it not? Some of that KCNC stuff looks border line dangerous however.
Stunning bikes. I'm giggling and not even going to bother with a new bike now I've seen what really is available. The leap from a BSO like mine to these is far too great.
PS, Richard would you like to swap bikes at the rounds of the FNSS I'll be doing 🙄
Why do some people have all these doubt about which bike is lighter?
Sat on a forum how on earth can anyone state that there is no way one bike can be lighter than another.
I've got a KCNC cockpit on my Tuareg and it's fine.
Their bits are beautifully made, very light and I've not died in the 18months I've ridden it.
Either way the Anthem frame is a great start to build an unfairly light bike - anyone riding one clearly needs to carry bricks to even things up a bit.
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Sub 22lbs
I love that you can't have a weight weenies thread without people arguing about who's is lighter 😆
Of course you can't, it's just incomplete otherwise!
Either way the Anthem frame is a great start to build an unfairly light bike - anyone riding one clearly needs to carry bricks to even things up a bit.
Lovely bikes as they are, are the frames not considerably heavier than a Spark/Epic/Top Fuel, thus making them quite unsuitable if you're purely chasing weight!?
I thought the Anthem was just over 5lb for the alloy version. The lighter weight's reported for Spark etc are usually the carbon versions at just over 4lb?
Isn't the carbon one virtually the same though? In fact the first incarnation was heavier IIRC.
I think a Spark frame is 3.9lbs, and I seem to remember my Top Fuel was something like 4.35 including seat mast/post.
So yes.
This is my new build, On One Dirty Harry 29er, 21.4lbs.
The stem is now lowered and brakes lifted.
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Liking the Dirty Harry. Impressive weight considering the XT cranks, Rebas, Hope brakes and sensible pedals.
What size is that Dirty Harry? I've been thinking I need a hardtail, and the DH was on the short list.
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24lbs with real size wheels or 18 without the rohloff
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22lbs with baby wheels.goes down to 19lbs without gears.
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Dirty Harry is a 16.5" frame. I went from whippet to dh as my bb on whippet kept flaring. It's quick.
Xtr pedals and shifter, 1 by 10 with Goldtec oval ring, xt clutch mech, e13 guide, mt zoom carbon other bits.
Thanks
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Wow. I thought that mine was light. Apparently 23lb with pedals. Not weighed it though.
It feels like a feather compared to my old full sus.
Right this thread has got my enthused to finally finish the 2013 race build.
Trek 2012 9.9ssl frame, 19.5, (replacement of a broken 2011 model)
DT Swiss forks
American Classic wheels with tubeless Geax tyres
1 * 10 with X0 Gripshift, X9 type two mech, KCNC rings, (32,34,36, course dependant), XT cranks
3T carbon bars and stem
9.7kg in the picture
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Properly light now. Actual weight - no idea really. Bathroom scales suggest the region of 19lb.
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Those forks look made for that frame 8)
Cheers Mark. They ride well too. Really pleased with them.
Looks great TSC, no chain guide?
Not as yet, they're the DH ones with teeth like the XX1 rings, thus meant to be chain guard free. We'll see how it goes in training, although I'm not racing till June as I'm marathon training at the moment, hense the close build process.
Think I need better scales, my Anthem comes in at 26lbs, it is an XL frame though.
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With heavy wheels, pedals, a very heavy seatpost. In fact nothing at all is light on that, 26lbs sounds right! That stem must be about 2lbs?
Size is a red herring. I've seen off the shelf bikes of the same size vary by more than two different sizes!
Wheelset are CB Cobalt 3 so 1500g, not what I'd call heavy, tyres running tubeless, the pedals are magnesium (different to pic, which is older than I though) so about 0.5lbs more than a set of CB candy's, stem is 0.25lbs (according to On-One site, I think it's more but probably similar to a Thomson elite, it's not heavy), I give you the seatpost, although still less than 1 lb more than a std post.
As for size, my son has a small Anthem X4, running all std kit as delivered with a set of Superstar pedals (the ones in the pic) and is only 10oz more. So I think size has an effect.
Comfortable at 24.8lb
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Weighs more (but never will weigh) but does more miles than the other 2 put together - must be a moral in that
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Wheelset are CB Cobalt 3 so 1500g, not what I'd call heavy, tyres running tubeless, the pedals are magnesium (different to pic, which is older than I though) so about 0.5lbs more than a set of CB candy's, stem is 0.25lbs (according to On-One site, I think it's more but probably similar to a Thomson elite, it's not heavy), I give you the seatpost, although still less than 1 lb more than a std post.
Trouble is that you say 'x part is only 1lb heavier, and y part is only 0.5lbs heavier'. That adds up pretty quickly! It's a decent build, but not hard to see where the fat is.
djflexure where did you get those forks?
weight and price please
On one monocoque, but not in stock, bought from Mark who posted.
Ran them today at HONC and really like them.
Details on their website
IIRC with the steerer at about 225mm they were 550ish grams ...... Very light.
I've made a few changes to mine recently so thought I'd repost:
Grand Canyon CF SLX 29er (xl) with SID's, Light Bicycle wide AM carbon 29er wheels, X0 mechs shifters chainset and brakes, Easton stem carbon bars and post, Spesh Romin pro carbon saddle, Ergon grips. Around 21.5lbs.
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