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If you're finding climbs a challenge, something's wrong....
Set up properly, the meta is a stonker of a climber!!
DrP
Forgive my slight thread hijack Mr Hora,
thinking of buying a full sus bike after the summer and these seem to be in my secondhand budget.
looks like a lot of people here have had problems with frames snapping/breaking, is this a common fault? If so is it only a certain model or year affected?
Yes its a common fault, although from memory, mostly 08/09 bikes.
This is the replacement for the one my wife snapped 🙂
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anyone want a '07 medium frame in white? 120quid collected from Bognor.
dccbysea@gmail.com
Very few issues from 2010 bikes onwards breaking. Great bikes. Loved mine and now moved on to the Meta AM
My Meta 55
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Has changed quite a bit since then with new Revelations to replace the worn out Floats and double / bash / stinger rather than the 3 up front.
Jeff
Forgive my slight thread hijack Mr Hora,
thinking of buying a full sus bike after the summer and these seem to be in my secondhand budget.
looks like a lot of people here have had problems with frames snapping/breaking, is this a common fault? If so is it only a certain model or year affected?
From what I can gather the earlier ones (which were great) are only starting to snap/crack now as they are getting abit- I think it was the late 08/09 era that had the weaknesses?
11+ are mint. Try Commencals website - clearance section. You can pick up a 200x50 shock ANYWHERE secondhand.
What sort of pressures are people running in the rear shock? The correct amount of sag is 10mm or so isn't it?
I weigh about 11.5st/73kg and the shock is a Fox RP2
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P.S it used to be an Orange Crush...
Goodpoint, I've got a Kashima RP23 on mine - I went for my weight in PSI i.e. 210lb = 210psi. I've not actually messed with it yet.
Run mine with 165psi and I am 13.3st/85Kgs. 30% sag - 17mm for plushness and it flies downhill. I don't find that it bottom outs harshly or goes through the travel too quickly either. Just a nice controlled smooth use of all available travel. Any more pressure than that and it won't use all the travel even off bigger drops.
Climbing is fine, I have an Fox Float RP2 and flick the Propedal on to climb and it cuts out most of the bob.
Hora - That would match with what I currently set, about 160psi for 160 lbs
...but I did run it at lower psi previously with more sag and it never bottomed out
The guide on the commie website is useful (technical spec sheet).
Basically the eye2eye distance on the shock should be:
190mm 'optimal'
187mm 'maxi/DH'.
The best way of doing this measure this with the shock out, bike in stand. What I did was then make a mark (with dremmel) on the black 'pushrod' type bit connecting the swingarm to the pivots, and tape a mark on the seat tube, so that the two line up at perfect sag.
Then you can simply add/remove air with you sat on it, and never have to measure as you've a neat visual guide...
DrP
heres my commie, bought of the commie secondhand bike section.
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DrP good tip on the sag indicator
Another picture you say? Go on then 😉
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Hora have you ridden yours yet? What do you think to it?
I like it, alot. Its very poppy- off things but I think the (20inch) seat tube could have been 19" max.
I like mine a lot as well. I keep flirting with other new bikes but I am yet to find a bike that rides as well for my sort of riding.
I am quite tall so the long seat tube on my XL suits me. I could get away with it being an inch shorter though I don't find a problem with stand over height anyway.
Stand over isnt an issue (I'm 6ft2) its just preference/saddle out of the way/how I hover etc.
Cool. Personal preference then 🙂
I have the Commencal Techbook for 2010. It's got all the dimensions, bearing sizes, part numbers etc. so it's quite useful. The Meta 55 is on page 57 onwards.
Clicky Link:
[url= https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9_xyIfo_XdAbmtod01mMzQtblk/edit?usp=sharing ]Commencal Tech Book[/url]
Thanks for the info!
Probably be looking at 2010 onwards then, I'll check out the commencal Web site aswell.
Cheers!
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Which forks are on this?
Also what stems and bars are people running? I built my bike from a frame and not 100% happy with the bar, could do with being a tad higher.
I've got Answer 720 AM, 1" rise (uncut) and Raceface Ride stem 70mm
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Another pic of mine, mudguarded up, with double and bash and with a stupidly long stem (for bar width)... reverted back to 70mm after one ride
That fork looks like a Fox 32 to me dmorts.
I run a 70mm Race Face Evolve 6 degree rise stem on mine with a 780mm width/25mm rise Superstar Descent bar which is perfect for me. When I got the bike it had a 90mm stem and a much narrower bar, changing to a shorter stem and wider bar improved the ride loads.
dmorts, It's a 2009 Vanilla RL fork, 140mm travel. I'm running a 60mm RaceFace respond stem and 700mm 1" riser bars.
I miss mine. 🙁
Has anyone tried a shock with a 190mm i2i on the 55?
This thread upsets me: my meta 5 was stolen and it's the best bike I've ever ridden
2008 Meta 55 - Stolen
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2009 Meta 55 - Cracked
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2011 Warranty replacement Meta 55
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At Antur
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I need headset help. Using a Stolen 44 headset but the top bearing sits higher than the top of the frame top. This means theres a gap allowing in dirt. Ive got the wrong headset shirley?
One of [url= http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/14203/Stolen_Insider_Headset ]these[/url] worked fine on an '09 (45,45).
Yep, the Insider 45/45 headsets work OK. Never heard of a Stolen 44?
Quick flick through CRC also reveals [url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=40812 ]these[/url]. Never tried one though.
I have had a few headsets in mine and they all have a had that tiny gap above the upper bearing. It's only small, probably less than 1mm. I thought it was a problem at first but it's never caused an issue. Having thought about it the gap is there so that there's clearance to preload the bearings. If the gap wasn't there you would be able to take the play up in the headset as the top cap would sit on the frame. It's a peculiarity of the Campag hiddenset so don't worry about it 🙂
Ok looks like I need a headset protector
That should say "If the gap wasn't there you [b][i]wouldn't[/i][/b] be able to take the play up in the headset as the top cap would sit on the frame" not would! 😳
Honestly hora I would not worry about it. I am a bit bike OCD and everything has to be mechanically perfect and I was quite concerned about that gap too but it hasn't caused a problem through two winters, countless trips to Wales, time in the Alps and a million washes. I don't bother buying a new headset any more, when the bearings get a bit rough I just put some new ones in. You can get them for a tenner:
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The rest of the headset never wears out it's only the bearings so it seems pointless changing the whole thing.
Mine enjoying the sun yesterday morning 
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Love Mine!! took a punt on a second hand 2009 as it was diiirt cheap! It hasn't cracked in two years heavy riding, (lots of hard riding and I am 16 st and a genuine idiot on a bike). If it cracks (likely?) then I will buy another one and ride that till it cracks too!!
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Nice bike osteo1. You have got the fastest colour too 😉
Funny how you never see the black ones crack... 🙂
The black ones are too fast to crack. Either that or the cracks just blend in to the paint... 😕 😉