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[Closed] Second Hand bikes just aren't that expensive!

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I know different scenarios require different prices, Generally speaking i think its safe to say that the price you can sell it on at depreciates at different rates and those rates can be any number of things(and are worth logging just like to do a car, receipts and all) as soon as you use it on your bike, and then over time continues to fall in potential sale price until you hit a 'plateau' and from then on the integrity of the part as far as the buyer is concerned is regulated by the user with maintenance and what not.

My point is that although you may have maintained your bike and spent money with much needed pre-service sale maintenence, i think most peoples prices are a little on the adventurous side when it comes to full build sales. Ultimately a very used bike that cost £1000 to build won't cost £750 3 years later. The warranty will have gone, the bike has been used and cleaned any number of times. Yes money has been spent on it, yes it's back up to working order but come on........Are you serious?

People use these sites to get a bargin. Lets make it happen.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:05 pm
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You know what? I'm with you who wants my nearly new 456, go on 99p and its yours, I'm serious*

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*f/** rite off!

It's worth whatever people want to pay for it and what the seller's prepared to accept. If those two don't match then theres no deal. Your one of those people off ebay with a sob story about your cat dying and your girlfriend leaving you therefore I really should sell you my stuff and throw in a load of extras for 10% of what its realisticly going to go for, aren't you?


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:20 pm
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its up to the vendor to chose the price then its up to the buyer to make an offer and after haggling a FAIR price is agreed. An item is only worth how much someone is willing to pay for it and if someone wants to pay £750 for a second-hand 3 yr-old bike then thats up to them.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:26 pm
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Judging by your posting history you seem agreeved that no one is willing to sell you a bike thats advertised at £900-£1000 for the £400-£500 you posted the wtd add for? Set your sights lower and maybe try posting on adds for £400-£500 bikes if thats what you can afford?


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:30 pm
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I'm not reading all that.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:33 pm
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I think we should all argue about this at great length.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:34 pm
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No we shouldn't... 😉


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:36 pm
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[i]People use these sites to get a bargin. Lets make it happen. [/i]

And many do I know I have.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:37 pm
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Generally speaking i think its safe to say that the price you can sell it on at depreciates at different rates and those rates can be any number of things(and are worth logging just like to do a car, receipts and all) as soon as you use it on your bike, and then over time continues to fall in potential sale price until you hit a 'plateau' and from then on the integrity of the part as far as the buyer is concerned is regulated by the user with maintenance and what not.

This is a single sentence, containing no less than 93 words. I do not understand what it means.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:38 pm
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"Second Hand bikes just aren't that expensive!"

I think you'll just have to accept that actually, they are.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:38 pm
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This is a single sentence, containing no less than 93 words. I do not understand what it means.

Thank **** I didn't read it.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:39 pm
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This is a single sentence, containing no less than 93 words. I do not understand what it means.

BD, shouldn't you be used to deciphering garbage like this?

It sounds suspiciously like a verbose version of hora's 'divide by two as soon as it's out of the shop' rule.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:41 pm
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LOL it's a market, stop whining.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:41 pm
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I got a Prophet MX full bike for £500 second hand. Nah Nah na Nah na.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:41 pm
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I read it... Not sure I will sleep tonight.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:44 pm
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I tried reading it....I will sell my bike to the OP for a quid if I never have to read it again.


 
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I'm not reading all that.

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im not reading [i]any[/i] of that


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:47 pm
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I’m of the opinion that if the seller wants more than I’m willing to offer then that’s their prerogative, I could be under valuing just as much as they could be over valuing…
If they want too much it simply won’t sell, basic market forces innit, everything has a value to someone, if a 3 year old bike ain’t worth £750 to you it may be to someone else…

I can’t really see your point OP… Are you basically asking for charity?


 
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I'm not reading all that.

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im not reading any of that

[b]I'm[/b] not reading any of that[b].[/b]

Ahem..


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:48 pm
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Wanted to see other people view, Mission successful. Thanks.

No thanks for all the aggressive posts.

Jahwomble - ok, done.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:49 pm
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Hmmmmm!!! It's awkward when I buy I think the item should be cheap cheap cheap, whereas when I sell I start with a high price as you can only be haggled down.

If you don't think it's worth it don't buy it. I have been looking for a Cotic Simple frame I have been offered 2 but the sellers wanted £360 where as I think for a S/H frame I'd have paid £300 for a good example, otherwise I may as well save up and buy new with warranty. The seller disagreed so I just left it. Perhaps you should do the same.


 
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thisisnotaspoon - Its not a great idea to post the price your looking to pay as there is less room for haggle.


 
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tails - Cheers, sound helpful advice


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:52 pm
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I've unfortunately just read this.

I'm going to give the OP the benefit of the doubt and assume that English isn't his mother tongue, as the alternative is too depressing to contemplate.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:54 pm
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Dyslexic m8. so yeah i guess english isn't my mother tongue ;p


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:56 pm
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It's dead easy really, seller puts it up for X amount(usually more than they really want),you think it's worth Y amount(usually less than you're really prepared to pay),you make them an offer......
From this point you'll either meet somewhere in the middle of the two offers or fail to agree & both go happily on your way.......


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:57 pm
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People use these sites to get a bargain? **** right off!

People that use this site treat it like a community. The classifieds is part of that. It's not meant for people to sign up and hunt for a bargain and disappear again.

You can't pick up a cheap bike? boo hoo. Go to a bike shop and buy a £4-500 bike. When you're done with it sell it on here for a decent price.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 2:58 pm
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Andyhilton - ''You can't pick up a cheap bike? boo hoo.'' Nice mate. Very dignified.


 
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Generally speaking i think its safe to say that the price you can sell it on at depreciates at different rates and those rates can be any number of things(and are worth logging just like to do a car, receipts and all) as soon as you use it on your bike, and then over time continues to fall in potential sale price until you hit a 'plateau' and from then on the integrity of the part as far as the buyer is concerned is regulated by the user with maintenance and what not.

This is a single sentence, containing no less than 93 words. I do not understand what it means.

Actually there's a comma before generally, so it's the magic 100 word sentence.

I have nothing else to say here. Stuff is worth what someone is willing to pay, if you don't wanna pay it then don't.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:03 pm
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I can't be bothered to read this whole thread, is it just a cheapskate whinging or is there more to it?


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:08 pm
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Just the normal everyday STW finickityness


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:13 pm
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I've no idea, I haven't read it.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:13 pm
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It's just a cheapskate whinging.

Andthonyfw - Nothing to do with dignity. You want a bargain bike. You join this forum. Then don't contribute to the forum other than a wanted ad and have a cry when nothing comes your way. You should check the definition of scrounger.


 
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I can't be bothered to read this whole thread, is it just a cheapskate whinging or is there more to it?

No there is no more to it

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Antonyfw - Member
Dyslexic

Have you noticed that dyslexic people can always spell dyslexic properly but then b0ll0x up everything else they write......a bit odd if you ask me 😉


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:16 pm
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Pretty much.

One of those people who sign up to use the clasifides then winge about it.

As for the haggling thing, I'm usualy content to wait arround untill one comes up at a price I can pay. Occasionaly if something comes up grosly overpriced but its something I want I'll enquire, but generaly i'm happy to wait.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:16 pm
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I once bought a brand new mountainbike reduced from £1000 to £399..........which was nice.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:19 pm
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I think i've got what i want form this post. Errrrr, thanks.

Ken_shields - wow. just wow.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:21 pm
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I think i've got what i want form this post. Errrrr, thanks.

Found a bike then? 😉


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:23 pm
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Cheapskaaaaaaaate!

I'd been wanting to do that since the start of this thread.

🙂


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:26 pm
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KINGTUT - Nah it was well overpriced. "Waaaaaaaaaaaaay!"

See what i did there.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:26 pm
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Nope.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:27 pm
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It's alright boys i can take it although i may weep alone later.

Not quite a cheapskate, been made redundant and although i could spend my money on other things i want a new toy and have a budget.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:28 pm
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There is a point being made here.

Take the value (IMO) of our bikes, all very well looked after.

2007 Stumpjumper (£1200) with £1000+ spent on it - I reckon it's worth about £800 max
2008 Rockhopper with no mods - cost £600, worth less than £250
2010 Allez Elite, cost £800, new wheels, very low mileage - £400 maybe.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:36 pm
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OP has a (badly written and not very important) point.

The answer to every 'what's it worth?' or 'why won't it sell?' thread is 'less than you think' or 'too expensive'


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:51 pm
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Yeah, depreciation is there. I think you have to accept that. But some valid points have been made. Namely don't pay the price if your not happy with it. Patience can pay off. Only for quicker sales will the price be started lower.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:55 pm
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roblerner - "OP has a (badly written and not very important) point" Not really any need for that kind of tone. If I've offended you then apologies


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 3:57 pm
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Don't worry Antony, it's just par for the course round here.
And as you have seen another common answer is simply "be richer" 😕


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 4:05 pm
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Aye you'll get a roasting here if folk think you don't have a point. Have to say I agree with them on this one!


 
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ooOOoo - "Don't worry Antony, it's just par for the course round here.
And as you have seen another common answer is simply "be richer""

lol
Thanks

Last time i was bullied i cut myself to help with the pain. I do hope it doesn't happen again.


 
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Anyway antonyfw welcome to the main forum 😀

Best way to deal with trolls is ignore them, it's often very hard from the safety of your chair but ultimately very satisfying


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 4:13 pm
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i cut myself to help with the pain

Post pictures of your wrists in the chat forum on a Saturday evening and then ask again. I'm sure you'll get a sympathy bike pretty fast. 😉


 
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Don't worry Antony, it's just par for the course round here.
And as you have seen another common answer is simply "be richer"

Being richer has nothing to do with it. It's about expectations. If it was expensive stuff to start with it won't be mega cheap on here. People expect to get a fair price for it. If you have a champagne taste in bikes and an asti spumante budget then you're going to get frustrated but set your sights at a more realistic level and you'll get a good bike off here.

As somebody said earlier if you don't want to pay the asking price then haggle but don't take the p!ss with your offer and you might be successful otherwise just walkaway from it (they'll be another one along soon enough anyway).


 
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tails - Thanks dude appreciate that. I've heard trolls are so ignorant they can't be ignored.


 
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BigDummy - Ha, great idea. Your the bestest. mwah xx


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 4:25 pm
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i got a 2nd hand bottlerocket frame with saint cranks, headset and stuff for 430 quid.
dunno if thats cheap or expensive. i just wanted it


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 4:28 pm
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The vast majority of stuff on here is sensibly priced. There is always the odd chancer who expects over the odds but generally they get no takers and either reduce there price or go away.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 4:43 pm
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remember kids, its allong the road not accross the tracks.............


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 4:45 pm
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Does anyone remember the Ebay ad- something like (but funny)...

LOOK BIKE BIDDING PLEASE READ LOOK

"Come on everybody stop biding on bikes. Theirs lots of road bikes on here and everyone keeps biding them up at the last minite. If we don't all bid we can all get bargins.... Sticking early bids in is stupid too because if the price stayed low til the end of the auction then the last minut bids would be low- So come on everyone use your common sensc dont bid on bikes"


 
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Manwells alter ego. I claim my £5


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 5:59 pm
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And it would appear that some get a great frame at a bargain price and still try to claim it didn't turn up and can I have the money back please.

I do get really sick of the opinion that sellers should do buyers a favour. Why not the other way round? The price is right when both parties are happy to sell and buy at a stated price. If you think stuff is too expensive, you obviously don't have to buy it. But then again you probably want the moon on a stick too.


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 6:05 pm
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If you have a champagne taste in bikes and an asti spumante budget then you're going to get frustrated

...or use a credit card. I know mine is still reeling from recent expenditures 😉


 
Posted : 15/06/2010 6:20 pm