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[Closed] PSA - GoPro alternative (sj4000) less than 40 quid!

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I get about an hour recording, I did get about 35 minutes first time, not sure if the improvement was due to giving the battery a charge cycle or disabling HDR? My down button has now totally stopped working but got a full refund from accmart. To be fair I didn't find anything I need to use that button for, on and record is all I need! May have to speak to you at some point Steve regarding your soldering skills, if I can find a suitable replacement switch!


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:47 pm
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In age of £99 GoPros are these still worth considering?

the 99 quid Go Pro is an SJ4000 competitor with a brand name mark up. Whether you think its worth more is a different matter - it's 3 times the price of some of the cameras posted on this thread.

A mate of mine has a Go Pro 3. Having seen the camera I got from this thread and the footage it produced first time out he is a little p1ssed off.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:58 pm
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I get about 80 mins from my battery no issues - they do some higher capacity batteries on ebay - but haven't bought one so can't vouch for the quality!


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 9:54 pm
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Higher capacity batteries (and charger) - [url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00R4C2LXQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 ]http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00R4C2LXQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00[/url]

Mine arrived today and I'm charging them just now...won't know until weekend at earliest to see how long they last.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 10:37 pm
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That's the same one I was looking at on Ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131386385613?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

For £7 posted its got to be worth the risk!!
Let us know how they do DickBarton


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 11:02 pm
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Will do...first one has charged so I'll go plug it in and see what happens!


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 11:10 pm
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no news on how the battery worked - does this mean it's blown up and burnt his house down?


 
Posted : 27/01/2015 10:22 am
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Haha, sorry...new battery works fine, but I've not had a chance to use it so no idea how much longer it runs...

Second one is almost charged as well so I'll be able to try it twice to see if the run time is consistent between the 2 units.


 
Posted : 27/01/2015 10:01 pm
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Can anyone recommend a supplier with reasonable delivery times - 1-3 days if possible?
Also, how are folk getting on with the wifi version?


 
Posted : 28/01/2015 7:50 pm
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Here's the link for the batteries I bought!.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251768064558


 
Posted : 28/01/2015 8:06 pm
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After being told on Monday that my AccMart-via-Amazon purchased camera for £33.48 was being shipped by China Post (including tracking number!) it turned up today (3 days later!) with GB post-marks etc. Not sure whether I was just lucky or whether this would happen for everyone!

Camera looks and feels fine. Menu suggests it is SJ4000 with firmware dated 20140818V01. All feels good so far. Not entirely sure what some of the accessories do (the wire cable, the cable ties, the velcro bands, the arm bands), but will hopefully get a chance to try it out this weekend.

This was the link from which I purchased it [url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00Q668ZGS ]AccMart Amazon link[/url]

It was nicely retail packaged
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Here's the firmware screenshot
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Posted : 28/01/2015 9:58 pm
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I've just taken the plunge and ordered this one - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blueskysea-SJCAM-Camcorder-unterwasser-Helmkamera/dp/B00R74JMEM

I can't work out if it's 1080 or not. It doesn't say so, but I don't think that there is a wifi version which isn't 1080.
It's on prime, so if it's not 1080 I'll just send it back.

Fingers crossed.


 
Posted : 28/01/2015 10:35 pm
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Geoffj

That's v cheap Geoff If that's genuine sj4000 !

Cheapest I've seen anyway,as none wifi ones are normally £20 dearer than that ..


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 1:00 am
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Geoffj - same as my original one - which developed an issue, so I sent it back, got a replacement and that had an issue, so I;m waiting on the replacement to that coming (should be today) - paid £34 delivered and it came from China, however my return and replacements are coming from somewhere in the UK (being returned to Croydon).

Whilst witing on the replacement I ordered up a Wifi version from Banggood - arrived 2 days later and cost me £54 (I think as they were doing a discount deal on first time buyer plus a January sale discount) - works very well, similar settings to the non-wifi I had but a later firmware. Like all wifi-enabled cameras, the app isn't awesome but is plenty usable but the lag between the camera and what is on the screen is very apparent (all my wifi-enabled camera devices suffer from this though, none are real-time, they tend to have a 1-3 second delay (and not consistently!)).


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 7:53 am
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Lot is reviews of the WiFi one on banggood being fake though http://m.banggood.com/SJcam-SJ4000-WiFi-Car-DVR-Camera-Sport-DV-Novatek-Waterproof-p-939976.html


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 8:26 am
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Dick - I looked at the banggood website, but the latest reviews on the wifi one suggest its not an original SJCAM. Have you updated the firmware or didn't you need to? It might be a good alternative if the one I've ordered isn't all its supposed to be.

Edit: What paulwf said


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 9:21 am
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Just used mine for the first time, and all the colours look washed out, do I need to change a setting?


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 3:21 pm
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some footage from my banggood wifi sj4000 - seems legit going by the online pictures of real vs fake ones and not bothered to check the firmware. note not sorted the angle out just yet so mostly footage of a garmin dakota bouncing about & got stuck in a massive rut buy hey ho ok for first attempt


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 3:27 pm
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Did you use a chest strap gazc? Funkydunc try setting white balance to cloudy instead of auto


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 4:00 pm
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Geoffj that looks cheap if it's genuine. Otherwise is it worth spending 70 odd quid on one of these when the gopro hero is £99?


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 4:45 pm
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As far as I can tell, my Wifi is a genuine SJ4000, not tried doing anything with the firmware, seemed to be the latest or very recent one so just left it as it is. Works very well.
My replacement non-wifi arrived today, that seems to the same as larkim's...as far as I can tell it is also legit.

Even if it/they aren't, they seem to take good quality footage so I've no complaints.


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 8:08 pm
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The 5 quid chest mount on Amazon (cheapest one there) is very good. Mounting the camera upside down sits it at the right angle without needing additional mounts between camera and chest plate.

+1 for cloudy white balance setting, recommended on many sites.

Mine came unboxed, passes the "genuine" tests but dubious given it wasn't boxed, but most importantly I'm pleased with it, it works well and was a bargain.


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 8:31 pm
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and as we're posting test-ride vids for comparison here's mine with the view from the chest mount (with no editing in WMM so lots of shots of me fitting it...).

And [url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adjustable-Chest-Harness-Release-Buckle/dp/B00E95A14M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422562228&sr=8-1&keywords=Adjustable+Chest+Mount+Harness+%2B+Quick+Release+Buckle+Mount+for+GoPro+HD+Hero+2+%263 ]this is the chest mount on Amazon.[/url]


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 9:11 pm
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yes i had the cheapo gopro copy chest mount but dont think i had it tight enough. its a really rocky trail mind. have it mounted upside down with the curved arm mount


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 9:14 pm
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@CTM: that's recorded in non-HD mode, yes?


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 10:11 pm
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If anyone's looking for a case for them, this looks like a good deal.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00JG4UR3G


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 10:35 am
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so where to get a genuine one? surely if they are circa 60-70 quid youd be better off getting the basic go pro?! at 90?

especially if theres a chance its fake

can anyone link to a guaranteed genuine one please?


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 10:42 am
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Wheres the cheapest for a genuine wifi version? I fancy taking a punt on one, or should i just get the non wifi model?


 
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so where to get a genuine one? surely if they are circa 60-70 quid youd be better off getting the basic go pro?! at 90?

especially if theres a chance its fake

can anyone link to a guaranteed genuine one please?

The suggestion is that the sj4000 is better than the cheap gopro. Removable battery, housing etc and higher resolution (?) so even at £70 it might be a better deal.
The other point is that even the fakes appear to be good vfm, and only problematic if you need to upgrade the firmware.

To minimise risk, I'd buy from one of the eBay or Amazon sellers offering the sjcam name in the description and then check it against the guides when it arrives. If it's a fake, you'll easily get your money back.

Mine is due to arrive on Monday - I'll post here once I've had a play.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 10:49 am
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yes i had the cheapo gopro copy chest mount but dont think i had it tight enough. its a really rocky trail mind. have it mounted upside down with the curved arm mount

I mounted mine with the simple clip directly into the chest mount, no other mount used.

@CTM: that's recorded in non-HD mode, yes?

720p (not 1080HD) setting on camera, and didn't specify HD on Youtube upload so no idea how much compression they've applied.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 11:30 am
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is there any/has anyone got any actual mtb footage of 1080p hd for reference?

also crashtest which one did you get? tempted to take a punt if the 1080p hd is decent


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 11:39 am
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also crashtest which one did you get? tempted to take a punt if the 1080p hd is decent

one from the original link which turned out to be some Amazon affiliate referral so not sure which actual seller it was (was an Xmas pressy).

My 32" TV is 720p not 1080, and Youtube generally compresses, so 1080 quality was never a concern for me.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 11:50 am
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Here you go - but it isn't good. Front-mounted is a Drift HD Ghost; rear is the non-wifi SJ4000 - [url=

- I've now got a wifi and non-wifi version - both appear to be genuine SJ4000 products.

The wifi version I got from Banggood; non-wifi was from an Amazon seller - AccMart) - which was linked to from the first link on this thread.

Given the footage these are capturing, I'm not sure why I'd want a GoPro - I'm guessing the battery life is going to be comparable so I see it as a saving of cash.

My Drift HD Ghost is a very good unit, but it is heavy compared to these, the battery life on it is very good...about 3 hours constant, the GoPro's that I have had experience of don't have that good a battery life either - however, if you have money to throw at it, then go for a big name.


 
Posted : 01/02/2015 12:27 am
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Well it's here

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It is 1080 and wifi. The firmware (December 14) suggests that it is a a genuine SJCAM.

All functions seem to be working as they should - even wifi to an iPhone 5.

I'm pretty sure you don't want to see footage of me spinning on my chair in my study, so I'll post up something appropriate once I've been out - probably snow related. 😀


 
Posted : 02/02/2015 4:16 pm
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nice one geoffj - just post up a quick random vid please 🙂

interested to see the footage and if its decent ill order one right now!

do they just take standard go pro mounts? ie if I bought a gopro chest mount would it fit ok?


 
Posted : 02/02/2015 4:56 pm
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infact sod it - ill order one now

so I then need a SD card, any recommendations?


 
Posted : 02/02/2015 5:00 pm
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I tried ordering the silver one they sell but i keep getting an error. Might as well get the blue one.


 
Posted : 02/02/2015 5:17 pm
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oscillate - remember its a micro sd card - not the standard size one.... Sandisc 32GB class 10 with SD card adapter was around £12 from play.com if i remember correctly...

the camera i received from accmart won't update to the latest firmaware on teh SJ website and won't do timelapse so think its a fake - although housing etc appear to be legit....anywho going to send it back and might take a punt on another one as was looking for the timelaspe function...


 
Posted : 02/02/2015 5:17 pm
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£35! Eeek!
My fingers are burnt after the Belkin bib short debacle, but I am very tempted to get one of these!!


 
Posted : 02/02/2015 5:19 pm
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I succumbed! On the £5 chest mounts, it is [url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adjustable-Chest-Harness-Release-Buckle/dp/B00E95A14M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422894342&sr=8-1&keywords=go+pro+chest+mounts ]this one[/url]?

Also, any recommendations on cheap places for SD cards (micro or normal?)?


 
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I'll admit to being really tempted but I'm aware that I don't really have anything to film beyond my usual speed mince (or not even speed, really, these days 🙁 )


 
Posted : 02/02/2015 5:29 pm
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I'm using this card - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D9OQ1JS

I'm going to have a look at the time lapse function now.


 
Posted : 02/02/2015 5:42 pm
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cheers geoff, let us know as im awaiting your testing now before ordering, got them hovering in the basket 🙂

EDIT : Geoff is that sc card only class 4? i thougght you needed class 10 to get the best out of these cameras?


 
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