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Why on earth are you lot ordering them, there is no way that lot will give you the rotors for free
People said the same with regards to the oakley thread, which was of a much higher value.
However I know we are dealing with the notoriously difficult Dave Hinde, so i'm not holding my breathe. It will cause Dave hinde more hassle than it will me.
Personally I think he is a genius, he is down the pub right now spending all your tenners and laughing as he knew it was the only way he would get any cash out of the STW collective...
........and live 20 mins away from Northwich
So you'll be able to visit the shop and get your abuse in person rather than by e-mail or over the phone!
edit due to idiocy.
So you'll be able to visit the shop and get your abuse in person rather than by e-mail or over the phone!
Is he really that bad? Never heard of him before.
you crazy guys..
Oh yes. Refuses to honour warrantees,* accuses people of mistreating wheels when they fall to bits,* been banned from e-bay*, threatens people who ring with complaints to "come down here if you think you're hard enough"* and **, etc.
* allegedly.
** this may have been his staff, and not actually Dave, (allegedly of course)
Um, can any of you who have a knowledge of the law tell me if I may have just booked myself a visit to court if I don't edit this quickly?
I wonder if any of you have booked yourselves a trip to court by conspiring to defraud.. or something.. 😕
I wonder if any of you have booked yourselves a trip to court by conspiring to defraud.. or something..
Can't see it; it's not like we've hacked his website & changed the price.
Andy
(Not expecting him to honour this, but nothing ventured...)
Thanks mr mills, I followed your helpful link. I copied & pasted some ebay feedback that he left so you could all see with ease:
BOUGHT GOODS AND WANTED REFUND WITHOUT RETURNING THEM - BE CAREFULL SELLERS Buyer: hlvh1983 ( 141) Jul-30-07 01:44
Reply by hlvh1983 (Aug-08-07 17:19):
He asked me to sell them myself, used item listed as new. Ask before buying!
-- (#190121949817) --
POSSIBLE SCAMMER, PAID WITH DODGY CREDIT CARD - EITHER THAT OR PENNILESS ?? Buyer: garibaldo99 ( 24) Jul-28-07 01:18
-- (#190124601187) --
SELLERS WATCH OUT HIM, GETS HIS STUFF THEN TRIES TO GET MONEY OFF - DODGY GUY Buyer: potsky13 ( 112) Jul-28-07 01:14
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WATCH OUT FOR HIM, ROYAL MAIL LOST HIS STUFF + HE BLAMED ME AFTER I REFUNDED HIM Buyer: up-for-it ( 155) Jul-06-07 01:20
Reply by up-for-it (Jul-07-07 13:50):
It was the seller who didn't reply to e-mails & only responded to a Paypal claim
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UNRELIABLE BUYER, GOT HIS STUFF AS ORDERED AND TRIED TO SCAM BIGGER DISCOUNTS Buyer: bgeary123 ( 3 ) Jul-04-07 04:08
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FUNNY THING IS THIS DESTROYS YOUR RATING. YOURS DONT MAKE A DIFFERENCE! Buyer: 1978jimbo ( 9 ) May-21-07 01:19
Reply by 1978jimbo (May-23-07 01:46):
FUNNY THING IS YOUR A GENUINE CON-MAN - & YES MINE MAKES a
-- (#190108480066) --
WATCH OUT FOR THIS EBAYER. GETS HIS STUFF THEN HAGGLES FOR BIGGER DISCOUNTS. Buyer: chips600 ( 39) May-14-07 01:42
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IGNORES CONTACT ATTEMPTS + THEN BLAMES YOU FOR PROBLEMS WITH THE TRADE! AVOID !! Buyer: antiquesterblue ( 59) May-10-07 02:07
Reply by antiquesterblue (May-13-07 14:35):
still hav'nt received goods i paid for.this man is a liar you have been warned!
-- (#190044134243) --
SELLERS BEWARE. THIS GUY CLAIMS HIS GOODS ARE NOT RIGHT 2 MONTHS AFTER PURCHASE Buyer: stuja1968 ( 253) May-01-07 01:47
Reply by stuja1968 (May-01-07 11:45):
Buyers beware. I have a 2 month e-mail trail seeking to rectify this problem.
-- (#190053122931) --
Dodgy Ebay Member, Waits 2 Months + Decides To Try + Fiddle The System! BEWARE Buyer: stuja1968 ( 253) May-01-07 01:45
Reply by stuja1968 (May-01-07 11:46):
The dealer has taken money and not supplied the goods. Against the law I think!
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WATCH OUT FOR THIS GUY, GAVE HIM REFUND AND STILL WANTS MORE. SELLERS BEWARE Buyer: jurdagutt ( 5 ) Apr-27-07 03:33
Reply by jurdagutt (Apr-27-07 04:08):
Sure, buyers Google "Dave Hinde" and "number1bikebits" and judge for yourself.
-- (#190019254095) --
BEWARE THIS EBAYER. GETS BARGAIN PRICES, GETS HIS STUFF AND STILL COMPLAINS Buyer: davidhudson070980 ( 12) Apr-24-07 02:56
Reply by davidhudson070980 (Apr-24-07 14:05):
Bargain prices maybe, but a justified complaint as what they sent was no
-- (#190100157952) --
SUSPECT EBAYER, SELLERS BEWARE, EXPECTS GOODS DELIVERED OVER BANK HOLIDAY DAYS! Buyer: mmmdev ( 255) Apr-23-07 07:08
Reply by mmmdev (Apr-23-07 07:43):
Paid for 24hr delivery. Took 18 days. I love those 18 day bank holidays.
NEW Xt Hubs - New Mavic XC717 Silver - Top XC Wheels (#190068807813) GBP?109.95 View Item
WE HAVE NO RECORD OF CONTACT. GOODS PERFECT AS ALWAYS Buyer: macdonalddave ( 22) Apr-12-07 05:01
Reply by macdonalddave (Apr-12-07 05:18):
WOULD NOT SAY BOX DAMAGED IF WASN'T. NOT A LIAR!. E-mail sent!!!! NO REPLY.
-- (#190092646623) --
COMPLETE FRAUDSTER. CLAIMS HE HASNT GOT GOODS + CONS HONEST EBAY DEALERS. AVOID Buyer: z1_barron ( 424) Apr-11-07 06:23
Reply by z1_barron (Apr-11-07 07:04):
You have ripped off other people before hence 35 Neg feedback you have!!!!!!!!!
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BE WARY OF SELLING TO THIG GUY. EXPECTS 2 GET IT NEXT DAY OR THREATENS NEGATIVE Buyer: vectif ( 264) Apr-11-07 06:21
Reply by vectif (Apr-11-07 06:39):
waited 3 weeks with no repsonse to 5 mails. had to log paypal claim to resolve!
-- (#190095827804) --
WATCH THIS GUY CAREFULLY. BUYS STUFF THEN TRIES AFTERWARDS FOR XTRA DISCOUNTS. Buyer: davesharp0 ( 30) Apr-05-07 05:26
Reply by davesharp0 (May-10-07 02:05):
Any dispute & this is what you get. Paypal claim got my money back. JOKERS !!
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VERYSUSPECT EBAYER. BUYS STUFF AND CLAIMS HE HASNT GOT IT. SELLERS BEWARE Buyer: davesharp0 ( 30) Apr-05-07 05:24
Reply by davesharp0 (May-10-07 02:09):
Check out WhatMTB & MBUK forum to see their reputation. It'll make you laugh/cry
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BEWARE THIS GUY, HE MAKES MISTAKES WHEN ORDERING THEN TRIES TO CLAIM BACK CASH Buyer: bigalsbash ( 57) Mar-15-07 02:27
Reply by bigalsbash (Mar-15-07 14:06):
yep, silly me paid twice! 5 weeks no refund or item, slap my wrist for a mistake
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LYING SCUM, DO NOT TRUST THIS SCAMMER AS FAR AS YOU COULD THROW HIM (NOT FAR) Buyer: c-stand ( 21) Mar-10-07 05:39
Reply by c-stand (Mar-16-07 15:16):
Google Dave Hinde for truth. Am pursuing this case through trading standards.
-- (#190066782727) --
ABSOLUTE LIAR, THIS GUY BUYS STUFF THEN LEAVES YOU A NEG FEEDBACK 3 MONTHS LATER Buyer: the-winged-one ( 23) Mar-08-07 04:07
Reply by the-winged-one (May-22-07 12:31):
rubbish! you forgot!!7 weeks to send!4 calls-4 diffrnt answers-you are rude too!
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STRANGE CUSTOMER, ONLY SEEMS TO BUY TO BAD MOUTH YOU. USE CAUTION WITH HIM Buyer: davidi6433 ( 39) Mar-07-07 01:11
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NOT TO BE TRUSTED, LYING FILTH. DONT DEAL WITH HIM UNLESS U WANT RIPPING OFF Buyer: bnt1960 ( 73) Mar-05-07 02:56
Reply by bnt1960 (Mar-05-07 04:22):
I COMPLAINED ABOUT DAMAGED GOODS. GOT NOTHING BUT MALICIOUS ABUSE IN RETURN.
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How bizarre. With any normal retailer you'd just be wasting your time and have to wait a few days to get your money back. You lot have picked the one who you'll have to fight to get your money back from. Did all of you who've ordered seriously think you might get sent some rotors? You know what they say about a fool and his money.
How bizarre. With any normal retailer you'd just be wasting your time and have to wait a few days to get your money back. You lot have picked the one who you'll have to fight to get your money back from. Did all of you who've ordered seriously think you might get sent some rotors? You know what they say about a fool and his money.
We'll see who's laughing when I've got my free rotors.. 😉
If enough people order them and he refuses to honour the orders (which he will), you can just organise a mass visit to the shop to all demand your free rotors / refund of P&P. Take pitchforks, flaming torches and someone from the local paper 🙂
Take pitchforks, flaming torches and someone from the local paper
Bombers for god sake, its a cycling shop.
Not sure if cycling shop is the correct word though, it is still a bike shop its just run by a group of cowboys who make it a pretty unreliable bike shop.
mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
aaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Damn I was going to set up a Dave Hinde log-in! Beaten to it.
lol
Oh! NOW it's gonna get legal 😯
If enough people order them and he refuses to honour the orders (which he will), you can just organise a mass visit to the shop to all demand your free rotors / refund of P&P. Take pitchforks, flaming torches and someone from the local paper
I can just see the local paper headlines now:
ANGRY IT MIDDLE MANAGERS WHO TRIED TO GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING DEMAND THEIR MONEY BACK
If enough people order them and he refuses to honour the orders (which he will), you can just organise a mass visit to the shop to all demand your free rotors / refund of P&P. Take pitchforks, flaming torches and someone from the local paperI can just see the local paper headlines now:
[s]ANGRY IT MIDDLE MANAGERS WHO TRIED TO GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING DEMAND THEIR MONEY BACK[/s] [b]BIKE SHOP REDUCED TO RUBBLE BY BOMBERS![/b]
my order was the first...i just hope thats the one that slips through the net 😉
I notice the listing's been removed from his website.
Andy
Is he really that bad?
Yes - you can all wave bye bye to the postage you've paid 😆
my order was the first...i just hope thats the one that slips through the net
I'll have £9.95 on you not getting anything (you can pay me when you get your postage back 😆 ).
you can pay me [b]if[/b] you get your postage back
FTFY
Mint sauce keyring thread was a fun lunchtime read, make this a sticky.
Rotors arrived today. Well chuffed. Will post pictures soon.
Rotors arrived today. Well chuffed. Will post pictures soon.
v funny.
you only ordered them 18hours ago. On a bank holiday 😉
Sorry, was just practising, you know, just in case.. 😉
It's likely to cost him 50p per order just in card charges let alone staff costs in processign the refunds.
I bet DH will be falling over themselves to do refunds...
Not a massive surprise that I've not had my order acknowledged...
Andy
[i]Edit - spam filter had got it[/i]
I'm watching this thread with interest.... Being one of the people DH and his cronies have been rude to/attempted to rip off.
I'm hoping you all manage to annoy him REALLY badly, but you're waving goodbye to your tenners if you've not got some form of protection.
I had an email confirming my order, that's it.
The price is obviously a mistake. Why are you being assholes?
same with the oakley thread total nob heads.
On a par with looters really - no moral compass 😉
I've seen it on other forums before - a mad rush to order a product that everyone knows is mis-priced followed by widespread rage that the retailer has the gall to refuse to supply it.
This is slightly different though as DH is a knob.
that's the point, neninja.
Best case = we get rotors.
worst case = we don't and can cause DH a load of miter like they've (allegedly) dished out in the past.
I have never ordered anything from them. why? about 8 years ago i needed a new front wheel. I knew what hub I wanted, but needed some advice on the rim choice. I rang them up, and to cut a long conversation down, I was told to *("$ off as I didn't know what I was on about. Now I know this wont come as a surprise to many, but at the time I was pretty upset about it.
Like someone said earlier...if it costs them 50p or whatever to change the transactions and has to spend employees time in doing it....that's tough! If they don't refund, then they are breaking the law pure and simple.
before anyone says it, i'm not a woman scorned 😉
OAKLEY: An international company with an unrivaled reputation for fantastic customer service who mistakenly priced products cheaper than the usual RRP - but in no way free - and decided to provide the goods FOC as a good will gesture in order to protect their hard-won reputation.
DAVE HINDE: An absolute shyster who's happy to rip people off; tries to discredit his own customers who have the temerity to question his below-par customer service; who's been removed from ebay, investigated by trading standards and sued by countless unsuspecting customers...
And you idiots think you're gonna get free rotors??? It's obviously a mistake - I'd imagine the default price on his web template is £00.00 and he's forgotten to put a price in.
I ordered Oakleys for 90-odd quid, less than half the usual RRP, but still a significant amount. The fact that they gave them to me FOC was a massive bonus, but 90 quid is still a lot of money for a pair of sunnies, I just assumed they were slashing prices to make way for new products or something like that.
Sounds to me like Dave Hinde might have a case to sue STWers under some kind of conspiracy to defraud. It's all here in black and white and already in the Google cache.
randomjeremy - how is it conspiracy to defraud? is the similar PSA: cheap XT brakes conspiracy to defraud? if I bought something at a good price anywhere and tell people about it, is that conspiracy to defraud?
The cheap XT brakes "PSA" was just that, bargain brakes.
This time though with the "free" rotors:
1: Any reasonable person knows the price is a mistake, yet you order anyway
2: You know the transaction will cost the supplier time and money, yet you order anyway
3: You encourage others to do the same knowing that this multiply the costs to the supplier
4: You imply that you would go and physically threaten the supplier if they don't deliver / refund
Also I know it's all tongue in cheek but:
5: Someone suggested going to the shop with weapons
6: Someone else made a fake account pretending to be Dave Hinde
The supplier could well have a case is all I'm saying, you know how litigious some people are thesedays! 🙂
I ordered Oakleys for 90-odd quid, less than half the usual RRP, but still a significant amount. The fact that they gave them to me FOC was a massive bonus, but 90 quid is still a lot of money for a pair of sunnies, I just assumed they were slashing prices to make way for new products or something like that.
Really? Pretty sure most people were aware the prices were a mistake judging by that thread. Seems strange to me that Oakley would honour orders from 'valued customers' who were basically out to rip them off.
As above - no better than the looters! 😐
Re the rotors - I'm amazed that people are even trying this - especially with DH's reputation. Madness. 😕
edit: randomjeremy - also, isn't people calling him a 'crook' and a 'shyster' libellous (or slander or whatever it is). I don't have much sympathy for the guy at all - although I've ordered from him without issues before I knew his rep.
just an aside, how does it cost £9.99 to post a rotor?