[Closed] PSA: Carbon 456's - £299 over at on-one

Works Components make an angle changing headset (2deg) for £79.99.

We (on-one) are ordering some when I get my head out of my arse.

Rorschach - Member
It does make you wonder...if they can do what is a fairly low volume production run and still be viable at £300.Why does a Niner Air carbon/Santa Cruz High Ball etc cost SIX times as much?
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On one buy from the factory, and sell to you.
SC etc buy, sell to national distributor, sell to shop, sell to customer. And also sponsor Steve Peat.

By not sponsoring Steve Peat, and selling direct, they can drastically cut retail prices to customers.

By not sponsoring Steve Peat, and selling direct, they can drastically cut retail prices to customers.

Is that why the alumninium fames are cheeper now? It's all the re-cycled Stella cans?

ah I see, I'm used to a 71 head angle anyway so this all sounds ludicrously slack to me already...!

I was thinking of buying a jump frame like a Giant STP, as a fun urban hackaround to mess around on in the evenings and on the way back from work. This carbon 456 looks like it would be capable of performing this task still, but be more versatile, would anyone disagree with this, or is it not really going to be as strong as a jump/urban bike, not that I am very gnarly.

p.s. I heard Stella is reconstituted from concentrate in a big tank in Swansea docks or somewhere, which kind of puts me off.

If that was the deal on a Whippet frame I`d have one like a shot, (as a second bike) but I cant see me getting rid of my bluepig to replace with the C456...

Brant, how do they compare geometry wise ? and are you going to be doing an On-one with "Ragley" geometry in the future?

Is that why the alumninium fames are cheeper now? It's all the re-cycled Stella cans?

I spilled coffee laughing when i read this.

Pity I've just ordered a new bike, carbon 456 looks very nice, may see if I can scrape up the pennies

cynic-al - Member

It seemed to me the angleset thing is the latest new thing and used to breathe life into this model and no doubt others. Neither is best...though each version is best when on one are trying sell.

But this isn't 2 versions 😕 It's one frame, and a seperate product that can change it. On One are making an asset of it by linking up with Works and by testing the things but almost any bike can do it.

They are also refreshing tired (but still as good) product with something that makes it better, when it was previously the best.

cynic-al - Member

They are also refreshing tired (but still as good) product with something that makes it better, when it was previously the best.

Not really... This is nothing new after all, I bought my C456 specifically because the tapered headset gave it good flexibility for this sort of thing.

Does it matter that these are painted rather than Lacquered?

Anglesets existed before tapered steerers?

cynic-al - Member

Anglesets existed before tapered steerers?

No idea tbh. But they existed before Carbon 456s.

Suggested size for a 5'11 guy with a 32in inseam for trail centres?

I'm 5'10 and 31 inch and very comfortable on a medium... Would probably be OK on a small, definately not on a large. I reckon you'll be much the same.

So how do angle sets give the 456 more versatility than other frames?

cynic-al - Member

So how do angle sets give the 456 more versatility than other frames?

They don't. Obviously.

18" too small for 6'4" me for use as play bike around town and so on? 20" looks too big for that kinda thing...

But you implied that's why you chose it North?

hello bike people,

i have a carerra fury, i'm not sure anything could be better than my beautiful piece of halfords history, but i'm tempted by such carbon treats.

anybody know if any of the componants would be transferable?

i know seatpost wouldnt be cos its 31.8mm, guessing bottom bracket wouldnt? and as a result cranks.

i'm not good with this technical stuff

thank you xxkissesxx

BB ok I'd have thought, but front mech possibly not.

You'll need a new headset and to check fork steerer length too.

front mech doesnt exist anymore as i've upped my level of sexiness by going 1X9. headsets a good point! hmmmm think the frames will stick at this sort of price for the future? i'm meant to be investing in a transition covert when one appears for sale at the right price so this would dent my funds me thinks... but definite plan for the HT in ze future 🙂

cheers cynic-al, mucho appreciatedo

cynic-al - Member

But you implied that's why you chose it North?

No, I didn't... I chose it not because it's any more versatile, but because it was pretty much exactly what I was looking for. I wanted something of the slackness of my Mmmbop but without the weight of a Pig or the horribleness of an Mmmbop's rear end. Obviously the Ragley Ti got a look in but the C456 came very close for half the price. There weren't many other contenders in the end (did consider a Soul with the Works 1 degree HA reducer in but the standard steerer limits things more)