[Closed] Preparation for the Tour Divide

If you can do the sdw every day for about 3 weeks you'll be ready for the Tour Divide 😉

I think you need to start looking at riding 100 miles on a Friday night, sleeping in a bivvy for 3 or 4 hours and then doing the same again Saturday and Sunday type weekends.

Jenn of this parish might be able to help re: preparations that she did? She rode 700 miles to San Fransisco from the finish, though so not sure she'll help with immediate return home plans.

If you're not planning to race then maybe look at doing the route with more kit/rest etc?

Yeah, the SDW for three weeks does put it somewhat into perspective!

The friday night/sat/sunday thing sounds like a good idea.

I'd like to take longer but part of me wants to race it, and the other part needs to be back sat at my desk in a reasonable time.

I think I remember something Aiden Harding said on another similar thread, it was along the lines of "just commit to it, get signed up book the time off, then make it happen. Don't over think it first or it just becomes a distant aim rather than a reality".

Those may not be even close to the words he used, but it is what I took from his comments. So make the commitment now, and fill in the details over the next 12 months.

ps. I didn't follow that advice and it is still a distant dream.

Ride around the world.

PS: i havn't done that but reckon it'd be a good warm up!

Just spoken to my boss this morning and booked the time off. About to book the flight out there too, it's going to happen!

Actually feel excited about competing again, haven't felt like that for a while!

Flange, keep us posted with your progress, I suspect many of us will be gripped. Finally good on you!

Good work Flange! And good luck!

It looks like you're over the first hurdle, but I thought of this before I read your last. It's a good 'un:

If you limit your choices only to what seems possible or reasonable, you disconnect yourself from what you truly want, and all that is left is a compromise.

-Robert Fritz

Can I suggest a blog, starting today would be a good thing?

Good thinking. I'll get one set up ASAP and will post a link on here.

I like that Robert Fritz quote.

Thanks for the words of encouragement - much appreciated. A little different from the email I got off a mate telling me I'm a loon....!

Well you are a loon - but I'm jealous of your looniness.
Best of luck with the preparation!

[url= http://1xaverage.blogspot.co.uk/ ]A blog[/url]

Look at that - I have to do it now, I've written a blog...

bookmarked your blog, so at least one person will be expecting to see it through!

Bugger!

PS. Good luck 🙂

Isn't booking the flight now a bit premature ? 🙂

Ahh - see you'd have thought. But because I'm a tight northerner, if I've booked it then I'll force myself to go do it!

Good luck Flange and good on you for making the commitment. I have a similar goal to do it before I'm 40, I'm 35 now.

I have added the link to your blog into the links page on my site. 🙂

I too keep looking at it longingly although in my case I am not only slow and fat but old too. Last week I hit a milestone birthday at which you can only weep.

I would love for the TD to make me fit, slim and even young again as well as giving me a rounded experiance getting there. For a couple of years I've been trawling the WWW for infomation to see if there is a way I can do the 'event' not to win of course, or even to come in the top half-field but to do it and to finish it.

I see TD people riding 200+ miles a day and need to know more as they are just super-human or the tracks are different or I am missing something. I once did the C2C in a day, 160 miles, and that was not really repeatable the day after. That was also all on roads, with a bed at each end.

What am I missing and is there a group of guys doing it in the spirit of a group, not really a race?

C

Another blog bookmarker over here!

Liking your writing, look forward to updates!

Ed

Just as a bit of motivation after reading your blog, I was 17 stone just 4 months ago and had never ridden more than 70 miles, after buying a road bike and training pretty much every day with a 66 mile commute and 100 mile sportives at weekends, i'm down to 15 stone and managed to cycle from Manchester to London (250 miles) in 21 hours for charity (but I could never go out again and keep doing it day in day out!)

Nothing like the Tour Divide and i'll never be that Superhuman like those guys, but it is amazing what you can achieve when you have a big event to aim for and to focus your training.

Good luck mate (we did meet briefly in Tesco car park Guidlford when i bought your wheels)

Cool! Cheers for the bookmark chaps!

ChrisE - I'm thinking to be fair unless your 'milestone' birthday was 70 you'll be fine. There's even a thread on one of the bikepacking sites for the over 60's and there's plenty of them. What you lack in youth you make up for in time to train!

Also, there are two different ways you can do the TD (forgive me if I'm teaching you to suck eggs here). Either the Grand Depart (as per Mr Hall et al) or as an Individual time trial where you set off when you want. If you look at the live tracker you can see those doing an ITT, shown by their yellow dot as oppose to blue.

Its worth keeping in mind that whilst there are some racing it (Hall, Aidan who posts on here and a few others have done it too), there are plenty of others doing a lesser distance each day and 'enjoying' it more. There's no start line or crowd so you're free to take as long as you want. Me personally I want to train and race it as fast as I can, but thats because a)I've got a massive ego that will only be silenced once I'm sat two days in staring at a large mountain in last place and b)I've got to get back for work.

Ahh Scud! How are the wheels chap? Cheers for the support and well done on the 250 mile effort, thats awesome going!

I did it 2 years ago. I was made redundant/retired 6 monts before and had a few bad months (long story) and only got about 10 weeks really good training in. But I did finish. I also recall Aidan saying 10 weeks training is enough. Might be for him but I needed more!

Route is not difficult on a technical level, just long days. SDW surface is similar, everything rideable (except for a few miles in NM).

The SDW has ~50% more climbing per mile than the TD, it is just a lot shorter of course. 3 weeks of SDW would be harder than TD!

The two key's to a good finish are being able to get up early and ride long. Not necessarily quickly, just keep moving. And I would say to be strong mentally and ride [i]your[/i] race. By this I mean you stop when you are ready, not the people you are with. If you ride for 1 hour extra per day that is 20+ hours for most riders. Or 1.5 to 2 days off your time.

And stretch from now until the moment you finish. Achilles are an issue again this year (do some heel raises)and general back issues. So make sure your core is in decent shape.

Get up in the morning, ride as far as you can, eat as much as you can and camp. Next day repeat. What's so hard about that. Good luck will try and keep an eye on your blog.

PS Sort of mentioned to MrsB about doing it again at the weekend and she said I must be mad or stupid. Not sure if she is right or just to sensible as my mate Martin is looking for a bike to repeat the pain.

Meant to mention have a look at the Bearbones 200 in Wales in October:

[url= http://bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/pages/BB200.html ]Bearbones[/url]

Usually attracts a few TD vets and other quick types.

And have a spin round the Cairngorms Loop and/or Highland Trail race route. Go when you are ready, don't have to race them.

Cheers Blackhound, I was thinking about doing the Bearbones in October - having watched your efforts in the HTR it looks bloody hard! Timing might be ideal for the TD next year too...hmmm

You can come up with the greatest ideas in the world, but until you commit to making them happen they are meaningless and essentially fanciful.

Lodge your entry, book your flights and put everything in place to [b]make it happen[/b].

Then comes the nice bit, researching and buying kit that you need. Test it to death, revise and refine and come up with a system that works for you.

Then get some long days in and build up progressive. PBW, West Highland Way, Cairngorms Loop, Highland Trail race.

In doing so you'll refine kit, refine your eating and drinking strategy and perform a post mortem to work out positives and negatives.

Mental strength is 80% of a lot of these things, so you need to have been out in all sorts of weather and know how it feels to be cold wet and tired and still have miles to push out.

Best of luck with it. I'll be riding the divide this year but hope to go back and race it in a few years time.

The birthday was 50 and to be fair, on the day, after moping round the house for much of the day, I then ran out of the door and up Ingleborough and back, 20K and prob 2000' in 2.5 hours. Slow, but did it. Have ridden 10ish Transalps (not races) so not quite as bad as I make out.

The 'fun' for me would be the challenge of doing it and the experience of being in groups of other people, all doing together and suffering together.

I can't get it out of my mind

C

Chris - I was 52 when I did it and there are some 60+ riders out there, James Hodges who finished a few days behind me for example is at it again.

Flange: For some prep and focussing you could read this ebook by Richard Sterry:

[url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_14?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-text&field-keywords=richard%20sterry&sprefix=richard+sterry%2Caps%2C207 ]SDW3[/url]

Awesome, I watched Ride the divide last night, I love the concept of this challenge!! I'd love to do this and I can't wait to hear how you're getting on!!

Bookmarked great thread

Ive bookmarked as well.
Total respect for what you are going to do. Very inspiring.

I've been mesmerised by the TD, ever since I first heard of it.
Your a very, very lucky chap.
And good luck. 😉

There's a couple of good books on it, Jill Homer's is very good.

I'd just like to repeat 'good for you'. Have at it!!

Really hope you keep up the blog and go for it! Definitely on my bucket list now, following the current TD daily and wishing I was there. Sometimes, I really do wish I could just bugger off for a month or so, good for you taking the opportunity while you have the freedom.

Thanks for all the encouragement and kind words folks. I shall purchase those books mentioned and possibly watch 'Ride the Divide' again tonight, if only to marvel at Matthew Lee's tan lines...

Time booked off work and flight booked. Very excited!

Paul Howard two wheels on my wagon and Jill homers books are worth a read, I will do it one day,when my boys are a lot older.

The more practice you put in leading up to the event the easier things will become.
Yes get the miles in, but also get used to being in the saddle for long hours day after day after sleeping in your Bivi. A lot of people focus on the riding but forget about the camping aspect. Its little things like being able to find somewhere suitable when your tired and keeping yourself dry when the weathers foul which will allow you to get a good nights sleep so you can keep on going day after day.

Learn not to plan too much. As soon as you start any plan is going to go out of the window so you're going to need to be able to think on your feet and also know how you're going to cope when you're tired.

Theres plenty of other events if you look on the other forum 😉
including Blackhounds Bivi a Month challenge which will be a good place to start

I read this thread with great interest, as i'm also going to do the TD next year

I've got as far as confirming the time off with work (taking a few months off so i can travel as well)

as for preperation, i will be tapping up as many people as poss for tips etc

For the kit side of things, trips to the wilds of Wales or similar, aiming for min of one overnighter a month

For the fitness, i'm going to gradually up the milage, i don't want to burn myself out over the winter, so probably start really upping if post xmas. I'll be building up a cx bike that i will start to use where possible instead of the car

seeing the coverage of this years event, i'm excited alreay

I'm desperate to do this, money is the only blocker. I have to make a family trip out of it, so I think I'd fly out to the start, the wife and kids would fly out to her folks in the Mid West, then they would road-trip down to the finish with perhaps her sister and family too, then we could all drive back. Costly, and more time is required than just the 3-4 weeks of riding.

That blogs making me chuckle already, bookmarked. As another fat middle aged IT pro I'm cheering you on. I managed to dump the ciggies a few years back, if I can do it you can.
Think you should publicise the events you plan to do with your rider number so we can encourage (well, heckle) you. And chapeau for having cohones for posting it up here .. the ideas out there, you're doing it now..

here's a bit of inspiration for you.
a friend's cousin rode to London from Turkey in 8 weeks. 4,000km. no plan, no fitness and not a lot of cycling beforehand.
[url= http://dancingbearonabike.wordpress.com/ ]http://dancingbearonabike.wordpress.com/[/url]

Awesome. I'm a bit young for the diesel engine to have kicked in yet, but when I get a bit older racing the Divide is on the to do list.
Fair play to you.

From an XC and road racing background, I can't emphasize the importance of strength for a ride like that. For a long time I thought fitness was the be all end all, just get out and ride your bike la de da. I'm now beginning to realise that for any comfort or longevity in sport, you need to keep on top of your strength. Body weight exercises- squats, lunges, pressups, planks, bridges are as much as you need, just getting them done regularly is the important bit. To be honest, I just enjoy riding my bike, so I'm not that fussed on rolling round the floor getting sweaty, but after having to sit out for weeks and months with injuries, there's a net gain in bike riding enjoyment if you do a little hard graft. Get a routine and stick to it and you'll never have to worry about it again.

Best of luck

Good luck 🙂 will also be keeping an eye on the blog.

Went to see a talk by Mark Beaumont last night. Very inspiring, but one point he made (as ^^) was to train in all aspects of fitness, gym work, other sports, core strength, everything. By cycling, even every day, you just develop the cycling muscles. The point at which you get injury / strain in endurance events is when the big fat cycling muscles that you have worked on eventually get fatigued (which they will after a number of days in the saddle) and then your shoulders hunch, your knees go out of line etc. At that point it is all the other 'non cycling' muscles that hold you together and keep you going.

Once again, thanks for the words of encouragement folks!

Good call on the gym work/core strength stuff. I need to work much more on that sort of thing, along with much more thorough stretching. My bad back at the moment is the result of too much driving and not enough effort put into maintaining my core. More sit ups in the morning for me I think!

Just reading the bio's of the TD racers on the Salsa website. Scary stuff!

That blog is bloody good Brakes - cheers for that

please don't copy the dancing videos though.

With regard to core, be careful of burning yourself out. I know that I don't really enjoy it (maybe you will so you won't need to worry, don't let me influence you!), but can hang in with a hard session for 3 or 4 weeks. But that is all I can do. After 3 or 4 weeks I'll find something else to do or kid myself that it's not worth it, no matter how good my intentions are.
That's not the approach you want. Stay modest and underexpecting when planning how many reps of whatever you'll do. Much better to start low(easy :O!) but consistently build up than suffer with something that's tough for as long as you can bare - which won't be the 12 months that you have.
If you have money, then potentially a circuit class or something would be the best medicine, they're much more 'enjoyable' than your bedroom floor and much harder to back out of (in a good way)

very good points above on core strength - this underpins [u]everything[/u]

Thats a fair point - my love affair with the gym comes in fits and starts and it's when I leave it alone for a period of time that I end up with chronic pain. I might join the local gym this weekend as it seems pretty good and they have circuits there that I can partake in. I also have to drive past it on the way home so that'll guilt trip me into going

And think about doing some audaxes, the antipodeans have done this. Martin & I did a few and Mike Hall has done some this year as well. The 300/400/600km ones are excellent for just getting used to massive hours on the bike. Any bike.

The last 3 months particularly try and ride 2 days in a row weekly with all your kit on your bike so that the body is used to it. Good luck, you [i]will[/i] have a great time. And as I said earlier stretch and core;-)

This is a great read about 2 guys riding the divide

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dividing-the-Great-ebook/dp/B005U0OHTA/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1371846668&sr=1-1&keywords=john+metcalfe

about the only book I have ever read cover to cover without getting bored

May as well chirp in here. After the HT400 this year I've fully committed to the TD next year. Already highlighted need for time off next year. Just a matter of riding myself into shape again.

Round is a shape right?

Doing it