Pinnacle Arkose Three (jameso to the forum please)

I'm also interested in the Arkose 4 - I especially like the sound of matt cyan. Unfortunately my cyclescheme voucher has to be issue before end of September, otherwise it is 6 months before I can get another so it sounds like a no go for me.

Maybe you can pre-order?

I'd advise ringing them, or popping into local branch, as email seems an alien concept.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/pinnacle/arkose-four-2015-cyclocross-bike-ec071308

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I had discounted the CX1, but....it's.... {it's gone now. That colour isn't available after all, sorry. Mod}

Arkose 4:

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The Arkose 4 looks awesome. Loads of good drop bar stuff around at the moment, almost a shame my current ride has years left in it yet!

Yaaaay.

Must say good work James O on the development on the range.

Now to prepare cycle scheme for the 5/10!

Bit odd Evans having the splatter grey Arkose 5 as the main pic, but the red version is the one you can buy/pre-order.

I'm liking the look of the 4 a lot, and a great, sensible spec for an all rounder too. It would be tough to choose between that on looks or a lower spec but potentially better frame (and through axles) with the Giant TCX 2 or Focus AX 2.0

Has anyone got 1st hand experience of through axles on road CX or commmuter bikes? My rigid mtb forks are stiff enough for off road so I can't see much advantage on road or CX where the loads will be so much less and the wheels much flexier?

I'm liking the look of the 4 a lot,

Im just miffed at the numbers of bikes not fitting the new 105 cranks! Ok theyre probably functionaly no better than FSA but they look good for once!

Im just miffed at the numbers of bikes not fitting the new 105 cranks! Ok theyre probably functionaly no better than FSA but they look good for once!

Also, FSA cranks are painted with a gnat's micron of paint, and usually rub through if you look at them funny. Shame there's no 105 cranks.

Bit odd Evans having the splatter grey Arkose 5 as the main pic, but the red version is the one you can buy/pre-order.

105 cranks - they're really expensive .. and very good, but won't fit into £1000 or so bike budgets easily.
Thru-axles - imo not 'needed' on rigid frames and forks but will become a std sooner or later. 15mm used now but planning on 12mm being more likely for road/cx in future. Jumping early on these things isn't always a benefit.

Oh....now that's annoying.

Was going to pre-order the 4 last night, but figured I would wait on some info from jameso, and the bastard thing has gone up £50 overnight.

*shakes fist*

We've had a few issues with the upload. Sorry. £1250 was always the right / planned price. But we have dropped the 1 and 2 by £50, to be in line with deliberately more competitive pricing on the road bikes.

But we have dropped the 1 and 2 by £50, to be in line with deliberately more competitive pricing on the road bikes.

I am very happy for potential 1 & 2 owners....

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105 cranks - they're really expensive .. and very good, but won't fit into £1000 or so bike budgets easily.

Fair enough, on the upside there isn't that I'm aware a CX (36-46)geared 4-arm 5800 chainset, and a 46t ultegra chainring is £89.99! So untill someone comes out with an aftermarket set it'd not be seeing any mud anyway! At least the FSA will be cheap to addapt with aftermarket rings.

Thru-axles - imo not 'needed' on rigid frames and forks but will become a std sooner or later. 15mm used now but planning on 12mm being more likely for road/cx in future. Jumping early on these things isn't always a benefit.

Agreed, it's not something I'll miss and I'd be more annoyed if they were a superceeded standard later on given my road bike buying timescales are 10+ year intervals!

Could someone nice please let me know what headset to get for the 2013 version of this bike please?

I believe it's an internal version 1 1/8 and 1 1/2?

Thanks!

^ It is. FSA Orbit C40 as std spec - 45 degree seat ACB bearings, 41.8mm OD upper / 51.8mm OD lower.

Glitch spotted earlier, hopefully sorted now. Grey splatter is the only colour.

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...price correction has been applied, tho.

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😛

Thanks Jameso!

Eat your breakfast aggressively in the direction of the web upload types
: )
The other colour is not available. It's a gaff. If you edit that post it may save me answering qs etc about it (ie, please)

I will have to get the mods to do it, I can't edit after 15 mins.

Which posts? All the ones with the red one in it?

If I do so, can I get a £50 off voucher? 😀

Edit: Ah, I see you already got the mods to prune the first post. Also, I cannot report my own post, so you'll have to get them to do the one above as well.

Damn that red was temping but not the ropey 80s kona copy 🙁

Ah well, no bother. See this is why we don't offer colour choices 😀

(copy / homage / all good things come around .. )

😉

was out on the 2 today for a spin, loving the feel of this
grab yourself a bargain 2 if you can you won't be disappointed 😀

First of all sorry for this question I have searched as best I can! Sizing.... Will be sitting on one before I order but.... To help curtail my excitement for my impending order please would you be so kind as to help me! I am 5 ft 10, inseam 32 inches (no shoes). I ride a 19 inch mtb with long 100 mm stem. Obviously I am slap bang between medium and large. Bike will mainly be used for commuting and longer rides. Would I be best going for medium or large do you think! Sorry again. 🙂 cheers

Just had a spin on the current Arkose 3 to get an idea of sizing. Strange position compared to my Allez which made me feel I needed the XL but the L was recommended (6'2")

Looking forward to picking up the four next month.

Don - tricky, I'd go for the L and take 10mm off the stem rather than go for the M and add 10mm but it's so hard to say what's right for people remotely. There's reach and stack figures on the site if that helps. FWIW I ride a L at just over 6' and would probably find most 19" MTBs with 100mm stems on the long side, but ok.
cgreggers - It's not a trad road bike position but at 6'2" you could go for the XL if you wanted a longer reach, front will be higher than the L tho and it may be that's what feels odd compared to the allez? BB drop is similar so it's not a 'perched on top' CX race bike fit.

@Jameso - It almost felt like the reach reach was shorter than my Allez but that may not be a bad thing with it being more a commuter for me than race. 88cm leg suggested a 57cm frame which is XL if I'm not mistaken. I guess I'll test both when they're released to be sure but what would you suggest?

It's described as 'adventure road', does that mean it's not a cross bike? My commute's a mix of really deep muddy farm tracks, and gravel farm tracks. I was hoping a disk braked crosser with big 65mm SKS guards (cut to clear the stays/fork) would just about be ideal.

I'm waiting for the 'evo' gravel racer version with dirt drops........in lurid splatter paint, none of this subtlety.

I'm waiting for the 'evo' gravel racer version with dirt drops....

The what now?

They have flared drops already. Ones where you can use the hoods as normal rather than those 'hooks only' types. That's a whole new sort of bike..

it's not a cross bike

cgreggers, best to try one as it sounds like you're borderline but more XL than L perhaps.

Jameso cheers.... What's the stock stem length for the medium and large out of interest?

Thanks

S/M – 80mm, L- 90mm, XL – 100mm

Cheers James. Did you say front mudguards will need tweaking to fit on the 2015 range? Would SKS's fit?

SKS will fit but the upright section of the L-bracket needs taking off and a 5mm hole drilling in the remaining section, or remove it entirely (carefully drill out the rivets) and drill a hole wherever lines them up best. A flat-headed M5 screw then goes directly into the crown through the guard.
I did see some Bontrager guards in an Evans store that looked more likely to fit directly as they used a different bracket, need to look them up.

Ah I see, so basically the mudguard mounts directly with the underside of the crown.

Couldn't see a Bontrager on the Evans site. Wonder if they'll release more mudguards which mount this way.

I'll get actual weights from production coming in this week/next. Very close to 2014 for similar specs on the Arkose 3. The hydros on the 4 don't add anything that I'm aware of. The SS, I didn't weigh it .. sorry. Rims are 470-490g for the 3-5 and SS with wider TLR sections.

Any news on the weights? Particularly interested in frame weight, fork weight and the overall weight of the Arkose 4.

It has a lower BB and a front end geo that's not the same as a CX race bike.

Oddly I looked at the geometry after asking the question and it's nearly identical to the Spesh Crux, just longer (L/57 Arkose with a 74 seat angle, is within mm's of a 58cm Crux).

Now I'm back to wanting one and can't decide between a medium and a large! I'm 6ft and ride a 56cm cannondale CAAD, but the size guide recomends a large which is nearer a normal 58?

The Crux does vary in geo between sizes but fit / reach etc could well be similar on some sizes. The 58cm Crux is effectively 10mm shorter in reach than the L Arkose due to the seat angle difference. The longer F-C on the Arkose makes it less CX-race and more 'off-road without OTBs'. Helps with toe room for 40C tyres.
L Arkose suits me well at 6', just under 400mm reach with a 90mm stem. Here's my Arkose 2 set up comfortably, aside from the almost inline post I tried out that I'm not 100% happy with. Approx 770mm BB-saddle top.
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Yes we're ranging frame and fork sets this year - not all colours and aside from the splatter paint SS and Arkose 5 frames I'd need to check - the 3 or 4 I think. May have some 2014 frames in also, we hold onto them for warranty use but generally sell them by the time new model frame spare stock arrives.

I'm torn between buying a Arkose 4 or building up something to my exact spec using the Arkose frameset.

Is there any word on when the 2015 frame and forks would be available to buy and how much they would cost? Oh, and most importantly, can you get the frameset in green or blue?!

Have they moved away from the NVO stem then? I need a 90mm 10 degree stem for my Expede and so far finding one is proving impossible!

I quite like the system, it's a shame the stems aren't available.

NVO stems haven't been on the bikes for a good few years, was before my time at Pinnacle anyway. Jamis do still use them and Evans stock Jamis bikes, so store staff may have access to them. I don't have access to the stock system from here to check though, sorry.
The Bonty guards that I saw seem to have vanished, maybe an old model.

Thanks, will probably switch to a standard stem set-up then.