Thanks James.
Front STIs are doubles, but rears are 32T if that helps.
A little, but not halfway up Llanberis pass in the pissing rain with a full set of luggage. 😀
Whole lot of editing going on here.
On road.cc it says:
They’ve also managed to reduce the frame weight by using thinner-walled tubes for the chainstays, seatstays and seat tube, along with flat welds and neater internal cable routing.
Is this a nominal, or considerate weight saving?
Pinnacle/Evans are going to do this?That is very kind of them.
That may be seen as buying favours, no can do : ) But if you buy one and think it's crp, you know where I am!
That may be seen as buying favours, no can do : )
Boooo! 😛
Me? Yes, trying to actually answer the Q : ) Long week away, back after 1am last night.Whole lot of editing going on here.
Don't you start Jamie. 😀
Right then, time to get the gear tables out.
Me? Yes, trying to actually answer the Q : ) Long week away, back after 1am last night.
I'd just ignore Rusty Spanner 8)
Don't you start Jamie.
Too late. You know what I want to know 😈
: ) take less stuff!not halfway up Llanberis pass in the pissing rain with a full set of luggage
I could. 🙂
Was hoping to replace an old Rockhopper I currently use as a tourer and my old road bike with one of these.
I'll keep an eye out for a cheap LH shifter.
It's spot on otherwise 😀
@ jameso ... any small green or blue frames/forks coming in ? .. love my 2014 arkose 3 but need/want a brighter frame .. the grey is duller than a dull thing !
would of waited a few weeks if id known the new range was going to be brighter !
Is this a nominal, or considerate weight saving?
My 'considerate' on a bike would be about a kilo, so 'very nominal' .. rear stays and seat tube lost some wall thickness although I haven't added it up accurately. On a slim Al tube it's not saving a lot, about an ounce on each seat stay for ex so more about ride feel. We're down to 1.0 and 0.9mm in places which is fairly thin-wall for aluminim.
Yes we're ranging frame and fork sets this year - not all colours and aside from the splatter paint SS and Arkose 5 frames I'd need to check - the 3 or 4 I think. May have some 2014 frames in also, we hold onto them for warranty use but generally sell them by the time new model frame spare stock arrives.any small green or blue frames/forks coming in ?
When are the bikes available? (Particularly the ss)
My 'considerate' on a bike would be about a kilo, so 'very nominal' .. rear stays and seat tube lost some wall thickness although I haven't added it up accurately. On a slim Al tube it's not saving a lot, about an ounce on each seat stay for ex so more about ride feel. We're down to 1.0 and 0.9mm in places which is fairly thin-wall for aluminim.
Ta.
Will need to check next week, we've all been away this week. Generally, 5-8 weeks dep on model. SS, I'd say towards 7.
Any pics of the cx1 model?
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any small green or blue frames/forks coming in ?
Yes we're ranging frame and fork sets this year - not all colours and aside from the splatter paint SS and Arkose 5 frames I'd need to check - the 3 or 4 I think. May have some 2014 frames in also, we hold onto them for warranty use but generally sell them by the time new model frame spare stock arrives.
cheers jameso ... if you have any small green 2014 frame / forks , id be interested as well
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The rims on these ok to setup tubeless? Bikes look great!
Might not have been obvious, but the CX1 has a splatter paint job.
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Thanks for the pic. Will have to see in the flesh. Was hoping for a super bright colour scheme like the others in the range....
Any news on the rest of the pinnacle 2015 range( Ramin, etc) and Hoy range?
Ramins - info due to go out next week, got too close to the Eurobike rush to send last week. 120mm forks on upper end models, X1/Reba RLT 120mm bike at the top end. Ramin 1 is same base colour as Arkose 2. Lithiums have had a minor re-jig and use glow in the dark matt colours.
Ramin's sound very nice. I know you love your Jones, has that had any influence on the design of your bikes?
I'm sure it has in some way. Yes in that I do see it is as a benchmark in handling balance or wide-ranging use and look for some element of that in any bike. ie I'm not a big fan of things like long wheelbase bikes for most riding and some very slack 29ers can get that way. But generally no, the Jones is unique in what it is and there's no replicating it with sus forks and normal bars etc.
I think the Ramins are much like the Cores were and they were bikes that came out long before me owning a Jones.
Hello all
I bought myself a bike from the local bike charity earlier in the year. Mainly as a run around and excerise to take some of the strain off my shins when running.
However I have found myself really enjoying the cycling and going out on the bike more and more.
My bike however is not the best and bits keep falling off so I have been considering a new bike and the 2014 Arkose 3 is very appealing to me. I have been searching the web for reviews and opinions and I have been reading this thread.
Jameso earlier in this thread you said that you had a review of the Arkose 3 and you offered to send it to another reader. Would you be willing to send it to me as well please?
Many thanks
^ Sure, it's here [url= http://pinnacle-bikes.co.uk/news/arkose-2-ridden-and-rated ]Arkose Two 2013 C+ grouptest[/url]
New bikes are basically the same format and geo but the 2015 frame tubes are a little more refined, they're flat-welded now and the fork rides better, particularly if you fit 38-40C tyres.
*spots jameso....fires up the question gun*
How is the internal cabling done, James? Hard to tell from the pics. Just curious about routing/anti-rattling measures.
Outers go into cable stops on mid-upper area of down tube. Down tube has open port near BB shell where inner cables pop out to go around a standard BB cable guide. Nothing new, BMC did it many years ago. Works well, no torches or cotton+vacuum cleaner needed.
Off for a ride now..
Thanks Jameso appreciate the help, that article just reinforces what I have read and heard so far seems right up my street.
`Do you know what the 2015 Arkose 3 will retail at? RRP £1000? The 2014 is currently £900 and seems a good bargain. Is the 2015 model worth the extra £100 (assuming that is the RRP)
I can't really answer that for you - it's £100 for 11s Shimano 105 vs 10s and a (subtly, some would say) revised frame and fork, flare drop bars and TLR rims. Minor or major stuff depending on your perspective. But you could ride the 2014 bike tomorrow rather than wait some weeks.Is the 2015 model worth the extra £100 (assuming that is the RRP)
Thanks Jameso
James, couple more questions if I may?
1. If you had the choice between a grey washing up bowl or a beige washing up bowl, which one would you go for?
2. Don'tcha wish your girlfriend was hot like me?
4. If swimming is so good for you, why are whales so fat?
I'll take this one.
1. Gray
2. No....and stop sending me [i]those[/i] pics.
3. They don't swim, they float.
^ ta. 7/10.
it might have already been answered somewhere but i couldn't see it- mudguard mounts on the 2015 bikes?
Not jameso but I am called james! Has them - not sure if front mudguard needs bastardising as mount is halfway up fork
Think this has full, separate bosses for rack and guards on the back and guards on the front?
Amazed how many frames lack this.
This years and next years Kona Sutra is let down by this and that's supposed to be a tourer!
One boss for both is a right pita ime.
Think this has full, separate bosses for rack and guards on the back and guards on the front?
Yup. 2 eyelets on the rear. Front guard fitting may make up for any lack of faff at the rear .. has to mount radially under the crown, ie you need to remove the upright of an SKS P-45s L-bracket and drill it 5mm or fit a Bontrager guard that has a more direct mount - I saw one but can't remember the name now. It's because the fork spec I wanted (exact geo and from a very well reputed supplier) was only available if guards fitted this way, due to the crown shape. A minor faff but has worked well for steel/other forks for years and looks really neat when fitted.
Front stay mounts up the fork have an advantage - less need for seccu-clips as the stay mount position means the guard can move away from the tyre should anything jam in the wheel or lower guard. Lack of seccu-clips for safe mounting means more choice. You'll need to add a bend in the stays of many guards but that's normal with a disc equipped bike ime.
Sorry James, approxmate release date for the arkose 3/4?
Sorry James, approxmate release date for the arkose 3/4?
Not jameso, but am a Jamie*.
6-8 weeks.
*Passport says James, tho.
Thanks Jam(ie) 😉
Can I wait that long?! Cycle to work scheme is ready and waiting...
You never know, jameso may have some good news, and they are here sooner.
Checking and will update asap.
tbh, i don't bother with guards at all on my roadrat currently (which this will be replacing) so could probably live with a lack of front one if i couldn't be bothered faffing, and i won't be needing front panniers ever pretty much as it'll be commuting/playing/sort of road riding i'll be doing, with perhaps some cx events (i won't say racing as that wouldn't accurately describe what i'm capable of) thrown in. no touring.
yup, reckon it's arkose 4 vs crosslight pro6 now, as far as I'm concerned...
