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^ new frame has an M5 in the dropout itself and if using that more load-bearing mount for a rack there's a removable screw-in adapter/'hidden' M5 eyelet for a guard at the rear.

Rear end is 135m QR or 142mm TA depending on the hanger inserts fitted.

Come on Evans, it’s 2020!!

We're moving to Tik Tok
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Posted : 29/08/2020 9:41 am
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Thanks Jameso. Looks a neat set up


 
Posted : 29/08/2020 2:22 pm
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looks to me like the d1 has become the d2 etc and the frame colours are the same so not expecting a massive difference there just a mild price hike which I can't blame them for.

I wish i'd ordered a medium D3 back in March when they were on offer.


 
Posted : 01/09/2020 4:09 pm
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^ yes new lower spec entry model planned. ETA depends on Shimano availability though, currently a long way out for Sora and Tiagra level.


 
Posted : 01/09/2020 4:28 pm
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Hi everyone, just seeing if someone could help me with this. I bought an Arkose D1 in March and in my haste to ride it and inexperience in bikes I didn't attach the pedal correctly and have since stripped the threads on the driveside of the crankset so I need a new one. Happy to replace like with like, however the only FSA Omega cranksets I can find online say they are 10/11 speed compatible, such as here:

FSA Omega MegaExo 48/32

Does anyone know if this is what is actually supplied with the bike anyway, or if this will be compatible with Sora? I found a comment somewhere online saying the 9-speed crankset is now only available direct to the manufacturer but not sure how true this is and I haven't been able to get a response from Evans regarding this.
Any help appreciated, thanks!


 
Posted : 06/09/2020 7:08 pm
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Seems like we are the only 2 here with this question! I was advised on other forums that a 10 speed chainset should work ok with 9 speed setup, although the shifting may a bit less smooth. Maybe it is worth contacting Evans or pay a visit to your local store to see if they have, or can obtain the 9 speed FSA Omega Chainset you need - the email I have had from FSA says the 10 speed version is not compatible, seems like they don't have the 9 speed chainset available for anyone other than bike retailers/manufacturers which is ridiculous..

Other options you have would be Shimano Sora 9 speed 50-34 chainset, although you would lose some low end gearing, or maybe the Shimano FC-MT210 chainset 46/30 although the latter of those was out of stock everywhere when I searched. Spa cycles have some 9 speed that may also fit, may need a different BB though
https://www.spacycles.co.uk/


 
Posted : 17/09/2020 6:31 pm
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10/11 speed chainsets will work with 9 speed. The teeth are a bit thinner but will be fine. A 9 speed chainset wouldn't work with a 10 speed chain because the teeth would be too wide to fit in the chain.


 
Posted : 17/09/2020 7:49 pm
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What size is the maxle on the arkrose 2 (baby blue)


 
Posted : 20/09/2020 9:49 pm
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A 9 speed chainset wouldn’t work with a 10 speed chain because the teeth would be too wide to fit in the chain.

The teeth are all exactly the same thickness as the inner dimension remains at 3/32". The plates on the chain are what get thinner.


 
Posted : 20/09/2020 10:05 pm
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Had an off recently and the RD hanger may be bent. Will try and get it straightened but if I need another one, Evans say the one on their website is the only one available, something about
transitioning over to the Frasers Group platform, Special Orders team are currently none operational and asking me to email them in 2-3 weeks. Or could try a local store. Just wanted to check the BGRD-3 on the website is NOT suitable for my Arkose 1 2018 ( - says 'compatible with 2012 onwards - All models of Arkose (V-Brake). Mine has Discs.
https://www.evanscycles.com/brand/pinnacle/bgrd-3-derailleur-hanger-972116#colcode=97211601


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 6:57 pm
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The hanger should be BGRD-4.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 7:13 pm
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^ correct


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 9:34 pm
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what is the correc hanger for an Arkrose disc? got 2 tiny screws to hold it in??


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 10:25 pm
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Year? There's been 3 frame revisions of the Arkose disc.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 10:34 pm
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2018
Bgrd 8 I think


 
Posted : 22/09/2020 8:45 am
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Also looking for a replacement front axle - QR264 - F (novatec front QR thru axle)


 
Posted : 22/09/2020 9:11 am
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BGRD8 it is. Front axle is M12*P1.5*125L spec - Maxle type.


 
Posted : 22/09/2020 12:59 pm
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@jameso - where from for the axle?


 
Posted : 22/09/2020 1:45 pm
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The OE axle wasn't a proprietary part, SRAM DT and others make them in that size.


 
Posted : 22/09/2020 2:08 pm
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I'm sure this has been covered but hey...43 pages!

What is the max clearence for a 650b wheel on an Arkose X (the older white one with a bolt through fork)

Bearing in mind the shortage of tyres at the moment, I'm looking at putting on some 2.1 27.5 mtb tyres - will these be ok

Whats the max anyone has got away with in winter where there will be mud


 
Posted : 23/09/2020 2:50 pm
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Resolute 650 42s are great for a mix of road and muddy trails. Just watch the slightly lower BB you'll get. You'll have no mud clearance on the average 2.1 though, esp not a tyre with a tread that works in mud.
I prefer 700 x 40-42 in the winter if I'm going off-road. Nanos or Resolutes. Better cut-through than a bigger 650 tyre, less clog and they run well on tarmac.


 
Posted : 23/09/2020 4:25 pm
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James i have the older Arkose from 2016 .

This one

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MXXULGS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_K34AFbXKHV835

Just seen some one on facebook sugest that they would take 2 inch tyres with 650b wheels. Looking that doesn't seem likely. Any thoughts?


 
Posted : 23/09/2020 8:04 pm
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That was me...

Looking for something a little bulkier and confidence inspiring for my partner when off road

Pinnacle Arkose


 
Posted : 23/09/2020 8:19 pm
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The 2016 bikes had a narrower fork crown and that limits tyre size, 50mm for a 35-40mm 700c tyre. The rear is about 60mm clearance at the tyre shoulder.
The new fork we had drawn up for 2017 onwards takes 650 x 2.1 or 2.2. 2017 onwards model frames (flat mount) have a few mm more clearance but were still never intended for more than 50 to 52mm tyres in 650B with minimal tread, 2.0 Race Kings for ex. It's the road chainset compatibility that limits it.


 
Posted : 23/09/2020 9:00 pm
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This my 2019 Arkose X with 50mm 650b Pirelli cinturato's on i25 WTB rims. Come up as 52mm. Decent clearance.


 
Posted : 24/09/2020 4:43 pm
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luv2ride yes that's the new wider fork with slightly green eyes. Which kind of shows the limitations of the older one


 
Posted : 24/09/2020 6:10 pm
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This was the result of running 40mm tubeless Nanos on my 2015 Arkose fork, hence why I went to the 2019 X

The older bike now runs tubeless Gravel King SKs 700 x 38mm with no rub...


 
Posted : 25/09/2020 7:02 pm
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That is so useful to know. I have 38c gravel king 3k on mine. I wondered about whether raptors would fit. Now I know. Although I think the 1x model was sold with them


 
Posted : 25/09/2020 7:04 pm
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I think I'd happily give up 2mm for that rad splatter paint job!


 
Posted : 25/09/2020 10:58 pm
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Hi, anyone had issues with the freehub on a 2019 bike? Just finished a cycle around the Hebrides and the freehub is occasionally jumping or locking. Really glad it didn't happen any earlier.
I know there were issues with earlier models. Also at 8 months old and would it be a warranty issue?


 
Posted : 26/09/2020 5:32 pm
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^ pop the freehub off and check the pawls and springs, it could simply be in need of a clean and/or re-grease.


 
Posted : 27/09/2020 2:25 pm
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Hello all. Although I'm loving my spangly new Arkose X, it's developed a creak from the bottom bracket area when pedaling - especially when standing to climb hard. It looks like the BB area is actually flexing when I stand on one crank. I am only 70kg.

Anyone else had this? Par for the course? Or terrible doom?


 
Posted : 27/09/2020 4:33 pm
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I've just done a gravel event thingy on my Arkose X. Solid and silent all the way round, despite some pretty relentless rough trail sections. I got no discernible flex from the BB, and I'm quite a bit heavier than you. Sounds as if you should get it checked out. Is there any play from the crankset?


 
Posted : 27/09/2020 5:34 pm
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Hm.
Thank you. I will.

Nothing that I could discern on the trail, I'll have a proper look when I can this evening.


 
Posted : 27/09/2020 5:57 pm
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Anyone else had this? Par for the course? Or terrible doom?

Probably a pedal or BB cup that needs doing up or a fatal frame crack or anything in between.


 
Posted : 27/09/2020 6:42 pm
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Thanks, seems to have done the trick, will see how it goes. Otherwise great bike for the trip although I did put on a bigger cassette..


 
Posted : 27/09/2020 7:20 pm
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Ha! That's the kind of expert diagnosis I was looking for.

I randomly found a thread recommending to have a look at the dropouts which I fully did and found that both were loose, the hanger was actually rattling about. Some of the wee screws had no loctite on from the look of it. May be helpful if anyone else has the same issue.


 
Posted : 27/09/2020 9:08 pm
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^ good tip. Axles often the cause. Will get the loctite point raised at the factory also, thanks.
I rode with a friend on a tour and his bike had an annoying creak, he couldn't seem to fix it, it went on for a few days. Rode alongside him one day and said 'er.. tighten your front QR?' - that fixed it. Was weird how it sounded like the BB area until being in a certain place as he rode.


 
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Yeah, really odd - I'd expect that sort of amplification on a steel frame but not on an aluminium one, my ignorance there.

Like many have said, the bike is awesome, @jameso. Nicely done.


 
Posted : 27/09/2020 9:28 pm
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Thanks Jimmy, glad you like it.


 
Posted : 28/09/2020 8:24 am
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...heads into garage to check that the dropouts on his X have loctite 😉

EDIT: they had loctite, but added some fresh and tightened up snug...


 
Posted : 28/09/2020 9:36 am
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Does anyone here know how long the warranty is on Pinnacle frames?
Not that I'd expect to get very far dealing with Evens these days.
Looks like my Arkose (2016 frame, bought April 2017) has started to crack at the welds either side of the downtube opening at the bb where the internal cable exit.


 
Posted : 28/09/2020 9:54 am
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^ All covered in owner's manual - it's still under warranty


 
Posted : 28/09/2020 11:09 am
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^ pop the freehub off and check the pawls and springs, it could simply be in need of a clean and/or re-grease.

I had this on a Novatec hub on a different bike. as you say, fixed by removing & cleaning the pawls & springs, and applying some fresh grease.


 
Posted : 28/09/2020 11:16 am
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Seems like we are the only 2 here with this question! I was advised on other forums that a 10 speed chainset should work ok with 9 speed setup, although the shifting may a bit less smooth. Maybe it is worth contacting Evans or pay a visit to your local store to see if they have, or can obtain the 9 speed FSA Omega Chainset you need – the email I have had from FSA says the 10 speed version is not compatible, seems like they don’t have the 9 speed chainset available for anyone other than bike retailers/manufacturers which is ridiculous..

Thanks very much for this, nice to know someone had the same problem! I'll try contacting Evans special orders again, last time even the customer services person I ended up speaking to couldn't contact them as they were switching systems and told me to try again in a month, hopefully they might be ready now. If they don't answer though I think I'll go with the 10 speed FSA chainset so I don't need to bother changing the bottom bracket too, and hope it's OK. Feel such a pillock for breaking it in the first place, I only rode it about 5 times!


 
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