Forum menu
Pinnacle Arkose Thr...
 

Pinnacle Arkose Three (jameso to the forum please)

Posts: 1870
Full Member
 

I have an Arkose 3 from 2015, once the original Alex rims died a painful crunching death (after 5000 miles) I picked up some more road minded wheels Mavic Askium.

I'm now on the hunt for a set of gravelly/cx wheels in prep for the winter and getting it off road again, one bike all year round option, rather than 2 bikes, I know this will have me struck off STW for treason but budgets will be budgets.

Whats currently popular or available? I have a budget of around £250 and need QR hubs. Rotors, tyres and cassette already sorted.


 
Posted : 30/04/2020 12:57 pm
Posts: 12
Full Member
 

I'm 5' 10" but with short legs (about 30") and I've got a medium and it's been a good fit.


 
Posted : 30/04/2020 2:42 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Now I've decided on a medium, thanks! I've been discussing this elsewhere but it was suggested I ask here.

As the R2 and D2 are almost the same price right now, would you..

Buy the R2 with the 105 gearing and other road spec, then have a 2nd wheel set/tyres for offroad.
OR
Get the D2 with tiagra and maybe add extra road wheels and/or tyres if speed bothers me?

Maybe the answer is, it depends on which you do most of. I want to use it for some easy family offroad and try some more longer distance road riding myself. I've been getting into that during lockdown on a smart trainer.

Looks to me the main things other than wheels are the 50-34 versus 48-32 chainset and flared bars.

Cheers!


 
Posted : 03/05/2020 11:03 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Hi everyone, I need your help. I have a Arkose 2 2018 and my plan is to build a new set of 650b wheels. But need to know the size of front and rear hub.
The new arkose has Front HubNovatec 32H 2 sealed bearing 12 x 100mmRear HubNovatec 32H 2 sealed bearing 12 x 142mm what about arkose 2 2018? Does anybody know? James are you here?


 
Posted : 04/05/2020 11:31 pm
Posts: 2653
Free Member
 

I’m now on the hunt for a set of gravelly/cx wheels in prep for the winter

I put a set of Shimano RX010 Disc wheels on my 2015 Arkose. They have QR hubs, I run them with 40mm WTB Nano tyres but I did have to buy centrelock disc adaptors to fit. I got them from Chain Reaction (£90) and they seem pretty decent. Lighter than the Alexrims they replaced. I don’t know if they can be used tubeless though.


 
Posted : 05/05/2020 12:43 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I've just ordered an Arkose 2020 D2. Is it a thru axle at the rear? If so could someone tell me the spec so I can get a spare for my trainer? Cheers!


 
Posted : 21/05/2020 8:43 pm
Posts: 522
Free Member
 

To the Arkose X owners. Has anyone weighed their stock 650b wheelset?

According to the Evan's website the spec is:
Rims WTB ST Light i25 TCS 27.5/650b 32 hole, sleeved, tubeless ready
Front Hub Novatec 32H 2 sealed bearing 12 x 100mm
Rear Hub Novatec 32H 4 sealed bearing 12 x 142mm

Wondering whether new wheels may be a worthy upgrade? Recently switched the Rival 42t ring to an AB 38t oval ring which suits my offroad riding better, but now contemplating some lighter wheels...

Edit: elsewhere on the Evan's site they're listed as approx 1.89kg, so not exactly light...


 
Posted : 24/05/2020 8:26 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Is anybody has for sale stem 90 mm from Arkose ?


 
Posted : 01/06/2020 10:28 pm
Posts: 4171
Free Member
 

Hi - it maybe in the thread already but there are 41 pages!

What wheel bearings does the 2017/18 Arkose X take?  It has the 700c Alex rims with a Novatec rear hub and an unbranded front one.  Conflicting reports from a quick google - some say loose ball others say cartridge.....

Jameso?


 
Posted : 02/06/2020 3:17 pm
Posts: 9597
Free Member
 

@winston - Arkose X '17 front hub is a Joytech D371RCC-12, so cup and cone according to the spec info I have.


 
Posted : 02/06/2020 6:20 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I would like to source a replacement front thru axle for my Arkose 1 2018 due to wear and tear - it says QR264-F on it.

Total Thru axle length is 125mm and Axle diameter 10mm but unsure of thread pitch. It looks like 1mm but I could be wrong can anyone confirm the size or model I need for a replacement?


 
Posted : 26/06/2020 7:18 pm
Posts: 9597
Free Member
 

SRAM Maxle / Shimano E-thru spec thread = both are M12 x 1.5mm pitch at the front. 15mm fork dropout width unthreaded side, 10mm width threaded disc side.


 
Posted : 27/06/2020 9:27 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Hi

Thanks for your reply. Still slightly confused with all the numbers in product descriptions.

Looks like what I have is this
https://www.eshop.novatecwheels.eu/eshop/qr264f-en-12-shim-alloy-12x100x125l-m12xp15-w-nut-novatec-logo/p-329487.xhtml

I like the look of option 1 below, if the thread length of the thru axle is a few mm longer than the original would this make any difference?

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/brand-x-bolt-thru-axle/rp-prod176624


 
Posted : 29/06/2020 7:27 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

‘ey up everyone.

Does anybody here use their Arkose as long distance tourer? I am sure they do!

Considering a D1 or D2 for my LEJOG trip later on this year and feel it might fit the bill pretty well.

Anyone have any thoughts? I am looking at an XL being 6’2”.

Cheers,
Ad


 
Posted : 02/07/2020 9:01 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Hi all, new to the forum. I have just bought an Arkose x frameset and am well on the way with building it up, whilst I wait for an answer from Evans regarding a query that I sent via email the day it was delivered. When the frame arrived I looked it over and found the paint wasn't finished off properly around the cable entry on the left side of the downtube. Bare aluminium shows when the blanking plate is fitted. I Have emailed Evans customer service 3 weeks ago when I took delivery to ask if a touch up paint exists and as yet I have had no reply. Does anyone know if I can get a touch up paint for the metallic green?
Also the rear mech hanger for the thru axle was already fitted prior to delivery and was damaged on the corner. Since it is virtually impossible to get a reply from Evans, can this hanger be purchased seperately?
Apart from those 2 small niggles the frame looks great and I am really looking forward to finishing the build and having a ride on it


 
Posted : 07/07/2020 10:34 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

For no good reason here is a pic of jnr's medium 2020 from yesterday:

Arkose 2020


 
Posted : 08/07/2020 1:59 am
Posts: 9597
Free Member
 

@andy74 - this is the Arkose TA hanger https://www.evanscycles.com/pinnacle-bgrd-10-thru-axle-hanger-EV356216
Touch-ups aren't available sorry as it's a Taiwan paint supplier/code but some car or motorbike paints can be a good match, or just some clear laquer if it's otherwise covered up.


 
Posted : 08/07/2020 10:07 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Thanks @jameso, that is a shame about the paint. I will see what I can do as bare aluminium shows around the edge and catches the eye. I might just use some black to match the blanking plate. Good to know I can get a hanger.
I have at last received a reply from customer services advising me to make an appointment at my local store for them to advise, so will see how I get on.


 
Posted : 08/07/2020 5:09 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Afternoon,

Planning to use an Arkose D for my LEJOG trip later on this year and feel it might fit the bill pretty well.

Anyone have any thoughts? I am looking at an XL being 6’2” - does this sound about right? Is the sizing generally spot on? Had a look through the thread for an answer already, but couldn't find one.
Any help appreciated.

Cheers,
Ad


 
Posted : 08/07/2020 5:43 pm
 BigR
Posts: 191
Free Member
 

Same height as you and XL is a good fit for me with no adjustments.


 
Posted : 08/07/2020 6:29 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Cheers BigR, appreciate the input

Ad


 
Posted : 08/07/2020 6:41 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Am looking to get the Pinnacle Arkose D2 2020. Is the D2 in black colour and can that take 650b wheels ? If so, What is the maximum tyre size ?


 
Posted : 11/07/2020 5:41 pm
Posts: 9597
Free Member
 

https://www.evanscycles.com/pinnacle-arkose-d2-2020-gravel-bike-EV339947

The new Arkose is a benchmark for the versatility this type of bike can offer. The new Arkose frame has full compatibility for wheel size (650B x 52C or 700C x 45mm)

; )
That is the max, realistically. As ever you could squeeze more in but clearances will be below the EN standards minimum.


 
Posted : 12/07/2020 9:11 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Hi everyone, I have the latest Arkose D3 and have been wondering if it is safe to attach a Topeak Versacage to the carbon fork? It's supplied with plastic "versamount" clips for forks without bosses, and the load would be fairly light (approx 1kg per side).

I assume the fork has to be able to put up with much stronger forces than the weight itself, but in trying to research this online, some people understandably caution against clamping anything that might wear/ abrade the fork, so I'm not sure how safe this would be.

Thanks!


 
Posted : 17/07/2020 12:50 am
Posts: 9597
Free Member
 

@teejay58, the general concern with fitting anything to the forks is when people use the guard eyelet mounts to fit a rack. The eyelets aren't designed to be significantly load-bearing and it could cause damage. The clamp-on decks like the Topeak with 1kg might be ok, personally I wouldn't though - I'm just wary of anything that a carbon fork isn't tested for as well as wary of the attachment method. A clamp compresses and the carbon layup isn't designed for that. The clamps are also trying to hold on a tapered fork leg so my main concern would be they move down a bit while you're riding, loosen then rotate back and go into the wheel.


 
Posted : 17/07/2020 8:44 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Thanks very much James, I will have a rethink!


 
Posted : 17/07/2020 10:34 am
Posts: 6754
Free Member
 

You could always fit one of these? https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FOOOBZ650/on-one-bootzipper-650b-mountain-bike-fork


 
Posted : 17/07/2020 11:34 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I’ve got the Arkose X 2018 bike which is a fantastic bike. I’m slowly upgrading components as they wear out (Hope 20five Wheels, Hope chainring, 11 - 42 Deore cassette, the derailleur was already M6000 😁). Next I’m thinking of getting the 2020 Frameset. I like the colour and the rear thru axle. Question is will it be a straight swap? eg same bottom bracket, tyre clearance etc


 
Posted : 19/08/2020 3:20 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Arkose 2021 models 1-4 and X listed on the website available to pre-order, prices between £750 and £2500 (!) current dates are between October and February.

No product specifications/pics yet.... which makes it impossible to make an informed decision


 
Posted : 19/08/2020 4:20 pm
Posts: 9597
Free Member
 

I’ve got the Arkose X 2018 bike which is a fantastic bike. I’m slowly upgrading components as they wear out (Hope 20five Wheels, Hope chainring, 11 – 42 Deore cassette, the derailleur was already M6000 😁). Next I’m thinking of getting the 2020 Frameset. I like the colour and the rear thru axle. Question is will it be a straight swap? eg same bottom bracket, tyre clearance etc

That was a classic 'X' model imho ... pretty much a straight swap, yes. BB shell, headset, post and fork is the same, tyre clearance is a slightly greater on the new frame. Cable routing is easy. Just the rear hub axle to swap.


 
Posted : 19/08/2020 4:34 pm
Posts: 46086
Free Member
 

Sadly you have to buy them off Mike what-his-chops now who owns Evans, who I refuse to give a single penny to.


 
Posted : 19/08/2020 4:34 pm
Posts: 9597
Free Member
 

No product specifications/pics yet…. which makes it impossible to make an informed decision

New website went up today so there's some specs missing in places, I'm not sure when MY21 Arkose spec and images will go up tbh. Stock-in dates are best seen as approximate until nearer the time as supply chains aren't as reliable as they were last year.


 
Posted : 19/08/2020 4:38 pm
Posts: 33187
Full Member
 

Sadly you have to buy them off Mike what-his-chops now who owns Evans, who I refuse to give a single penny to.

The guy who saved the Evans chain and then gave their staff a payrise?


 
Posted : 19/08/2020 4:50 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

No product specifications/pics yet…. which makes it impossible to make an informed decision

New website went up today so there’s some specs missing in places, I’m not sure when MY21 Arkose spec and images will go up tbh. Stock-in dates are best seen as approximate until nearer the time as supply chains aren’t as reliable as they were last year.

Thanks I will keep an eye on the website, 5 models for 2021, looking forward to seeing them. The Arkose 1 2018 I have with upgraded wheels is excellent, geometry suits me perfectly


 
Posted : 19/08/2020 5:54 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Thanks for the reply Jameso - good to know it will be a straight swap. The Hope hubs cans be easily converted from QR to thru axle. My bike will be like Trigger’s broom soon


 
Posted : 20/08/2020 9:06 am
Posts: 46086
Free Member
 

The guy who saved the Evans chain and then gave their staff a payrise?

Lovely guy, generous and helpful.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/coronavirus-sports-direct-wetherspoons-tim-martin-mike-ashley-jobs-a9425581.html


 
Posted : 20/08/2020 9:42 am
Posts: 9597
Free Member
 

Matt, do you buy from Esso, Shell, Nestle etc? Don't take this the wrong way, this is just a point for perspective and I'm not taking a side vs your views either. But e.g. as much as I might dislike Tim Martin's politics and what I've read about him, I'll buy a round in a 'spoons with friends if that's how it goes - I just wouldn't choose to go there over another option. I'm ok with that as I've made other lifestyle compromises that make a much greater difference even if they disadvantage me - it's easy to boycott a shop or brand but it's not so easy to go vegetarian, not fly to go on holiday or ditch the car.
What I'm getting at is that I have no problem with capitalist voting though I do think we should aim to start with the things that make a real difference first, then filter down as far as you like. If you do that already in a meaningful way then all good. If we simply avoid a few obvious targets but miss/don't look into the more hidden ills, well, any action you see as positive in this way is a step in the right direction for ethical economics but we have to accept that it's not as meaningful as it could be.

Edit to add for balance, https://www.insider.co.uk/news/mike-ashley-thanks-sports-direct-22068544 - all staff paid at 100% during furlough period
- and that'll be the only post on this aspect from me, I'm on here for Pinnacle related posts. Just though that my silence on the topic could suggest some negativity that I wasn't prepared to voice, vs my take on things as it is.


 
Posted : 20/08/2020 10:08 am
Posts: 5909
Free Member
 

Well OT, but I can't help but think of this story whenever I read anything about Mike 'powerdrinker' Ashley 😀

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40517276


 
Posted : 20/08/2020 10:50 am
Posts: 12326
Full Member
 

Well said jameso! You can get back to the Pinnacles in the moment, but

Sadly you have to buy them off Mike what-his-chops now who owns Evans, who I refuse to give a single penny to.

Mike Ashley would undoubtedly be made poorer by the loss of Evans if everyone avoided it, but he'd hardly be on the bones of his arse. The likes of jameso and his colleagues in the back office and shops would be very much affected, especially as the affects of the Covid induced recession and move to online shopping means many fewer other prospective employers to move to. I'll continue to buy stuff from them.


 
Posted : 20/08/2020 1:39 pm
Posts: 46086
Free Member
 

@jameso - fair point well made.

I agree about log in my own eye (I manage an environmental project for Exxon....)

I'm being too grumpy. I need a ride.

As you were.


 
Posted : 20/08/2020 1:59 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Is it just me or have the 2021 Arkose models disappeared from the Evans website? Why can't we see pictures of them and their specs? And pre-order them? I want to be part of the club dammit!


 
Posted : 22/08/2020 8:32 am
Posts: 9597
Free Member
 

^ website's being updated and there's some stockfile changes going on, should settle down soon.


 
Posted : 22/08/2020 9:03 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

The 2021 models are back on the website now - but no specs or pics,. although taking pre-orders. I've emailed them about this and asked for feedback to be sent to the web team, bit naughty to be taking pre-orders when we don't know the spec.Also that click and collect is not available either, which I would want to do if ordering new bike.

Great that there are new models though. They replied to say they will pass feedback to web error team, website is in process of being updated, seems like they are having a few teething issues.


 
Posted : 24/08/2020 3:25 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Looks like the 1 is Grey, 2 is Blue, 3 is Black and X is green. Still no pics though.

The last instagram post from Pinnacle bikes was the 2019 so no chance of there being any pics there either. Come on Evans, it's 2020!!


 
Posted : 24/08/2020 6:52 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Comparing the 2020 Frameset to the 2018, is the rear axle still 135mm or has it increased to 145mm? Also the 2018 frame has 2 eyelets at the bottom of the seat stays (for mudguards and rear rack) whereas the 2020 frame only looks to have 1. Is it still possible to fit a mudguard and rack at the same time?


 
Posted : 28/08/2020 9:54 pm
Page 37 / 40