lush. I love me some gum walls
Hmmm, have got an Arkose Ltd reserved at Evans, but they are telling me that it will cost £74.49 if I want to have it tubeless. I've never had tubeless before, but that seems a bit steep when the bike itself comes with rims which [url= https://www.evanscycles.com/pinnacle-arkose-ltd-2017-adventure-road-bike-EV294853 ]Evans say[/url] are "tubeless compatible" and tyres which they describe as "tubeless ready". Am I being ripped off? I loved the bike when I test rode it, but Evans always seem to make it really hard work buying from them!
Just do the tubeless conversion yourself. You'll need to buy your own fluid for top-ups anyway.
I spent approximately £15 on tape, £12, on values and £15 in sealant and a couple of hours or so of time to get my hope rims running tubless.
I then spent another £20 and another hour changing over to stans rubber inner thing as couldn't get the first attempt to seal, sealant comming through the spoke holes.
So actually £75 doesn't seem to be too bad. 🙂
Am I being ripped off?
No, it's just that shipping bikes with sealant in is fraught with issues, the bike is just specced with TLR rims and tyres to minimise the cost of going tubeless if you want to. Tape plus sealant is part of the cost of doing that, labour is the rest. It's an easy job to do yourself tbh and I'd recommend it, it's useful to learn and get to grips with the process.
Many thanks all. Sounds like I should forgive Evans and this might have to be a learning experience then! Any recommendations for tape or sealant? If it is relevant the rims are Alex Volar 2.1 and the tyres WTB Riddlers.
Slight thread hi-jack (but still Pinnacle related)
Jameso - any plans for a 2018 Dolomite SS (and if so, what changes are there to the '17) or should I just go for the 2017 that is currently being reduced?
Need a new N+1 for my winter commute.......
Cheers,
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Any recommendations for tape or sealant?
21mm rim tape (20-23mm would be OK) and Stans, WTB or other sealant brands, not sure there's much in it ime, I've used 50% water and 50% art shop latex as sealant just to save £ when swapping tyres a lot.
Andy, Dolomite SS will have flat-mount brakes to follow how the Dolomite '17 frame evolved, and black paint, otherwise the same. Not due in for a couple of months though.
Cool - cheers Jameso! Think I'll go for the '17 version
Size wise I'm thinking Medium? I'm 5'10 (on a good day) riding 56cm specialized road bikes (diverge and roubaix) so looking at the geo charts it's Medium - do you agree?
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You could ride a M or L, if the reach and stack of the M is close to what you have now I'd go for that.
Size wise I'm thinking Medium? I'm 5'10 (on a good day) riding 56cm specialized road bikes (diverge and roubaix) so looking at the geo charts it's Medium - do you agree?
FWIW, I'm 5'9 and had a test ride on a friends 'M' Dolomite and found the stack a little high and the reach a little short.You could ride a M or L, if the reach and stack of the M is close to what you have now I'd go for that.
Quite disappointing, as I was only testing it quickly to confirm I wanted the lovely new LTD edition and it put me right off. 🙁
Me again......
What's the biggest tyre I can get in a dolomite SS?
After thinking some more (and increasing the budget!) I toyed with an Arkose SS for some trailway duties - but the 2017 is OOS! - when is the '18 due?
So - if I can't get an Arkose can I bulk up a dolomite with some CX tyres etc?
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Size wise I'm thinking Medium? I'm 5'10 (on a good day) riding 56cm specialized road bikes (diverge and roubaix) so looking at the geo charts it's Medium - do you agree?
FWIW, I'm 5'9 and had a test ride on a friends 'M' Dolomite and found the stack a little high and the reach a little short.
The M Dolomite is within a few mm either way of the Roubaix and Diverge 56cm reach and that Andy was asking about though, and it's 15-25mm lower stack than either. It's not a race geometry but it's not as upright as some sportive bikes either. Maybe the bar shape made a difference?
Andy, Dolomite SS will take 32s w/o guards. We're not bringing in an Arkose SS '18 sorry. Limited by the number of drop bar models we can have! A shame as it was a personal fave but the Dolomite SS is at a price where we sell many times more bikes than the Arkose SS.
Cheers for the reply jameso!
Hmm - that's a shame about no Arkose SS! Thinking if a dolomite is still the way to go, but go for a skinny cx style tyre for trailway duties.
Out of interest - is the rear wheel on the dolomite a normal freehub with spacers and a single sprocket? Or a screw-on SS freewheel?
Ta!
A
Now seriously considering an Arkose SS - scouring the second hand market.......
Jameso - Seeing as haven't got the option to try for size - medium or large? Was leaning towards a medium Dolomite SS
Thanks!
A
Saw the Arkose Ltd in the local Evans today. Fine looking bike. Glad its too expensive for RideToWork otherwise I could have been tempted
I got mine on Cyclescheme, store accepted a cash top up...
Picked mine up earlier this week, and yes, the store accepted a cash top up. You'll need to find another excuse. It rides beautifully, on road and off.
Dont think that thought hadnt crossed my mind
Does anyone know what size of bolt is necessary for the fork eyelets in a 2016-17 arkose 4? I'm trying to fit my mudguards and none of my massive bolt collection fits. I'm suspecting a bizarre imperial size or odd thread pitch.
Just bought a secondhand 2013 Arkose 3 today so will need to read yup on this long thread!
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can you squeeze 47mm tyres on 2017 model?
Hi,
I believe you can fit up to 50mm on 650b (I'm running WTB Byways, 47mm) and up to 40mm on 700c (mine came with 40mm WTB Nanos).
Ben
I'm trying to figure out a build for this frame
specs says it has integrated headset, what that means exactly?
do I need to buy some kind of headset or is it included?
can anybody point me out a compatible headset?
can you squeeze 47mm tyres on 2017 model?
47mm 650b fit with bags of room.
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Bregante,
Good to see that after missing your message you've got wheels and tyres sorted!
I'm continuing to experiment with pressures, but find the WTB Byways roll pretty well at 35psi on and off road.
jameso - do you know if any major changes are planned for 2018? I'm interested in the Arkose 3 as it's got the hydro discs (going to use a commuter in all weathers)...
Also would you happen to know if Evans give a BC discount?
BC discount seconded, reckon the Arkose Alfine is in budget if they will do the 10% - but as its an 'in-house' brand I doubt there is much incentive.
Also, is the internal frame routing on the Alfine model specific to the Alfine, or the same as the other UK spec models? I know the LTD Di2 has different blanking plates but I guess the frame itself is the same on all models?
Just an update on this - I emailed evans - the reply:
Thank you for your e-mail.Unfortunately I can advise that we no longer offer a British cycling discount.
If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
How easy it to change the rear mech cable on the arkose 4? Mine snapped this morning so I'll need to change when I get home tonight.
Is it a total faff?
How easy it to change the rear mech cable on the arkose 4? Mine snapped this morning so I'll need to change when I get home tonight.Is it a total faff?
Couldn't be easier. Let us know if I'm wrong : )
jameso - do you know if any major changes are planned for 2018?
Same frames, some colour changes and minor spec details. Nothing major.
Yes sort of, it's a specific frame as it has the EBB and the cabling needs to be a little different. Cable routing is full outer to the hub, external around the EBB area, but you could 1x it if needed as it has an extra RD cable stop on the CS (also for full outer).Also, is the internal frame routing on the Alfine model specific to the Alfine
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I've just advertised a 2nd hand medium Arkose 3 on the classified
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Couldn't be easier. Let us know if I'm wrong : )
That's good news. I've not looked under the bb but sounds like I just feed through the downtube then pops out at the bb. Fingers crossed 🙂
jameso - do you happen to know if the 2018 Arkose models will keep the matte paint finish? I am close to clicking "buy" on an Arkose 1 which ticks all the boxes for me but am not convinced by matte paint.
Anyone have any opinions on the durability of the Arkose matte finish?
Anyone have any opinions on the durability of the Arkose matte finish?
Mine has certainly stood up well to 22 months of commuting. Couple of chips but that's nothing to do with the paint.
Cable through the downtube was a breeze btw, hardest bit was getting it through the shifetr.
They will do, yes. With tan wall WTB Riddlers.do you happen to know if the 2018 Arkose models will keep the matte paint finish?
The Arkose LTD ED is gloss powder-coat black if that helps sell it?
'thumbs up'Cable through the downtube was a breeze btw, hardest bit was getting it through the shifetr.
Anyone have any opinions on the durability of the Arkose matte finish?
It's chipped away from the carbon fork where I take the front wheel off and otherwise generally abuse the bike.
Can't tell when the wheel is on though...
Otherwise, it's been pretty sturdy.
Jameso - I've just bought a 2017 arkose 3 and i'm trying to work out which mounts I should use for the mudguards and which i should use for the rack. The frame has a set on the inside of the triangle and a set on the outside.
Having reviewed the thread I've seen that the pinnacle 3 that Brigante posted a page or so back has both the rack and mudguard mounts on the outside of the triangle - this makes more sense to me as there seems to be very little space between the disc and the inner mount on the non drive side. I think they're both 2017 frames, so what's going on?
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Hi Ewan, the inside hidden mount was how they were arranged on the 1st production run. The idea was to use the inner mount with a taper/flatter headed bolt to mount a guard, the outer for the rack that needs more space - or just use the outer one for guards only. Feedback was that no-one was bothered about seeing 2 mounts on the outside and using std bolts was easier so they were moved on a later batch.
