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Has the bike gone up by £100, or is it the same as non Maxle was?
Frame has gone up £100 to include the cost of the maxle rear end which was a £100 upgrade (and well worth it imo).
I always thought the extra £100 (or at least some of it) was due to the "custom order" nature of the maxle rear triangle. If it's now standard production, seems a bit cheeky to keep the extra £100 price tag. Can't see any noticble diffence in production costs between a QR and maxle rear end other than a slight increase in the component cost of the maxle axle itself.
Hmm, I liked the old bendy Five rear end and the way the rear wheel could plot its own wavy course. But I guess it makes sense, lots of people are obsessed with stiffness, especially journalists. MBR had to cheat in the last big trailbike test in order to avoid giving the win to the Zesty, that must have come as a shock to Orange...
Always seemed odd that they couldn't figure out a replacable dropout approach though.
Especially when they could just copy my old Commie 5.5 set-up 😕
Hmm, I liked the old bendy Five rear end and the way the rear wheel could plot its own wavy course. But I guess it makes sense, lots of people are obsessed with stiffness, especially journalists. MBR had to cheat in the last big trailbike test in order to avoid giving the win to the Zesty, that must have come as a shock to Orange...
Ding ding, we have a winner.
The best trail bike for grip I've ridden through a corner, was the original "flexy" Mojo SL without the Lopes link. I guess the flex acts as lateral suspension at lean angles where the forks and shocks don't operate effectively.
They may be all maxle rear, but the base model is QR fork up front ..
Also, a load of the 5s are still coming with far too narrow rims/too fat tyre combos IMO
All stupid- agreed. And the steel cassette on an alloy freehub body 🙄They may be all maxle rear, but the base model is QR fork up front ..
Also, a load of the 5s are still coming with far too narrow rims/too fat tyre combos IMO
A Mavic 319 rim with a 2.25 Advantage, and 321 rim with 2.35 High Roller/Minion, where is the issue there?
Check out Specialized for more of bolt thru rear and qr forks. My mate has a Stumpy Pro carbon 2012 @ about £4k with qr forks. At least you have the option of getting the Fox 15mm fork on the Orange for a bit extra.
Also, you may notice the Santa Cruz Nomad carbon now comes with a bolt thru rear end, due to popular demand as opposed to something necessary. That frame was already mega stiff.
I'll grant you the steel cassette though. 2013 spec yet to be fully confirmed so the Five S may be 10 speed, you never know. I've heard the Pro's, AMs etc will be with clutch mechs which is good.
"A Mavic 319 rim with a 2.25 Advantage, and 321 rim with 2.35 High Roller/Minion, where is the issue there? "
A 719 and 2.25" advantage is just about pushing it IMO/IME, but I've not complaint for that
going by orange website specs:
321 is on the FiveAM (with the smaller 2.35" tyres)
319 on the Five black/gold and 819 on the top model okay fine
Its the 31[b]7[/b]s on the other models that just seems crazy. These are perhaps the 2 that most people buy as well? (the S and Pro)
Also £££ Hope Pro II's laced onto 321 and 317's?
521s, 719s and maybe 319s on the S model would be more fitting?
Spesh QR forks yes, but would I be right in thinking they (all?) come with 9mm thru bolt DT RWS's? IIRC stumpjumpers (even entry level) have done for a while now. Stiffer and safer than a 5mm QR?
I can guarantee you that Pro's and S's come with 319 rims, not 317. I know the Orange site says differently but it just needs updating. I'll grant you it would be nice to see a lighter rim but at least it's Hope hubs as standard now.
I suppose DT skewers are an improvement over regular qr's but it still isn't as good as 15mm is it?