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GEDA- out of curiosity, where did you see 5 bashing in this thread?
OK.. f the planet and decent wages and taxes give me the cheapest you have got from Taiwan.
I just googled, most of the worlds aluminium tube is made in China, not Halifax. Shame, I thought you really were saving the planet for a moment there.
Do motocross bikes have lots of fancy pivots or do they go by the simplicity rule as well?
No, but the power from an engine isn't (as) cyclic, like your legs.....meaning that they don't have to worry about peddling efficiency.
Also a motorbike doesn't weight around a sixth of its rider.
So are you saying that stuff made in the east is not cheaper due to the things I mentioned or is it 'just' economies of scale. The thing that makes me laugh is when people say that a single pivot is a compromised design that requires a special shock to make it work. Last time I checked the shock is an integral part of the bike and most bikes use the same shocks so who cares how a particular issue is solved? orange five bashing must be the longest, now dullest,troll/in joke on this forum, please no more. Maybe the issue is that at the end of the day it is not that you interesting talking about riding so most people talk about kit only the folk who like talking about kit either don't do enough riding or are a bit to obsessive about the whole thing.
Wow... I can just about understand why people would think 2 similiar bikes rode much the same, though I'd disagree. But a Five and a Superlight? Crazy talk frankly.
As far as most people on the planet are concerned there are things that are bikes and things that aren't. The number of people who would accept that you need a different bike for road and offroad riding is already quite small. The number that care about the difference between a Five and a Superlight? Well, they are probably all on this forum.
I'd agree that people who love riding bikes can feel the difference between different bikes. But even then I'm not sure it matters. As long as the bike is half way capable then my enjoyment depends a lot more on the trail, the conditions and on how I'm feeling than any subtle differences in the way the bike handles.
That doesn't mean that all bikes are equally good but it does mean that other factors (such as who made it, where and how etc) are just as important (to me at least) as tiny differences in how it feels. Especially since they are almost always compromises i.e. bike X is better than bike Y at doing A, but is not as good at doing B.
Cheers,
Andy
Totally agree with everything you said Roverpig.
Thanks, at least there are two of us then 🙂