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 I’d expect suppliers to be wanting stock back ASAP if it’s not been paid for.

I'd imagine some suppliers had already put them on pro-forma a while ago.

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Posted : 30/10/2018 5:50 pm
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It'll be interesting to see if Norco who are imported into the UK by Evans sever ties with them now.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 5:51 pm
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Indeed. I cant see Norco or BMC (Or Spesh, Dale or Trek for that matter) wanting to see their brands in a concession in the corner of a grotty warehouse shop next to McDonald's in a business park.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 5:54 pm
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Looks like Zipp are already in Sports Direct

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/product-news/zipp-wheels-now-sold-sports-direct-398456


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:00 pm
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CaptainFlashheart - I remember you predicting something like this happening 10-12 years ago. What's it like being ahead of your time?


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:01 pm
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I can't see evans surviving as a repitable cycle store.

I for one will not buy anything from a store who treat there staff as they are reported to do.

RIP Evans cycles


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:02 pm
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Richardk, never mind Zipp, what about this bargain...   https://www.sportsdirect.com/no-name-name-nuts-for-axel-hub-937250?colcode=93725090

Martin, at some point, my omniscience will be acknowledged!


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:06 pm
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Doesn't Ashley own other, higher end high st stores?


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:08 pm
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Oh s**t.. Toon fan here, and now this cretin in pervades another of my hobbies... An utterly odious character.

Big sympathies for the staff involved, and for those staying after the cull..


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:09 pm
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Doesn’t Ashley own other, higher end high st stores?

He recently bought the House of Fraser chain.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:12 pm
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Ashley also owns Tri UK.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:12 pm
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Hopefully Evans have been bought as a going concern so vouchers, returns etc. will be honoured unlike the House of Fraser debacle.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:14 pm
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Hopefully Evans have been bought as a going concern so vouchers, returns etc. will be honoured unlike the House of Fraser debacle.

BBC article says Evans went into administration before being bought by Sports Direct.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:18 pm
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Well that's me no longer shopping at Evans.  They'll play off the brands perceived value for a while until everyone realises they've driven down quality too far.  Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of the big brands they stock pull out of supplying them, the lessons of what happened to Saracen with the Halfords deal back in the late 90s will be massively in their mind.  Feel for the staff who have helped make he shop good with their Pinnacle bikes etc.

On the plus side the independents should be able to hoover up the higher end customers while the bargain people go to Halfords.  Or they should if they have any sense.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:18 pm
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Nope Breatheeasy - pre-pack administration, so same as House of Fraser debacle for gift cards etc.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:19 pm
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Most commentaries refer to the chain of 60 stores, it's history back to the 1920s and the high street trading conditions along with other well known brands etc.

Were they that widespread to be a "household" name all those years or was it just a rush of stores opened since the VC gang got their teeth into it?

I walked into an Evans in Croydon in 1999 or 2000 and it didn't seem to be part of a larger operation.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:20 pm
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Not surprised to see a lot of stores will close.  Since about 2000 they've gone from 3(?) to 60 stores around the UK.    A fair few of those seem to have intentionally been opened near to other established shops and with often flaky or indifferent service I'm not sure how profitable a lot of those spaces can have been.

When they only had 3 stores they were good....


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:20 pm
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Forget Pinnacle, they'll be Lonsdale bikes now 😉


 
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Arse. Oh well, poor staff.

I wonder what frightened Halfords off?


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:43 pm
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The only positive from this is that every time I see Ashley on TV, he looks a few steps nearer to a massive heart-attack.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:45 pm
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BBC article says Evans went into administration before being bought by Sports Direct.

Have they done that just to avoid honouring gift vouchers etc, or does it let them close stores more easily?


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 6:53 pm
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Well that sucks. I can't stand Ashley and his retail model myself.


 
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The only positive from this is that every time I see Ashley on TV, he looks a few steps nearer to a massive heart-attack.

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You stay classy...

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Posted : 30/10/2018 7:03 pm
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If you do a bit of digging you'll find Ashley owns a fair few "reputable" brands.

For example, he now owns Lovell Rugby/Soccer/Hockey.

He's slapped Lovell on the Ospreys shirts the last ciiple of seasons and his VX3 rugby brand now outfit Worcester in the Premiership and the  Dragons in the Pro14.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 7:15 pm
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If you want to laugh inside just picture him in lycra on a road bike labouring up a hill.


 
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Have they done that just to avoid honouring gift vouchers etc, or does it let them close stores more easily?

A pre-pack allows the purchaser to essentially buy the assets of the business without being encumbered by its liabilities (like store cards and unfulfilled orders, as well as other creditors) - This isn't a Mike Ashley fabricated ploy, but would have been the mechanism used by any potential purchaser I'm afraid.......

To be fair, Sports Direct have been selling high end cycling stuff via their website, not in the stores, for years (especially clothing & shoes - I've picked up a few bargains there from Gore/Oakley/Giro) so I'm not sure you will see Lonsdale rebrands, and the Evans name appearing in SD stores. Ashley isn't a billionaire for nothing - as much as some of his business practices stink, he does know how to make money and I'm sure they know how to maintain a brand, and margins......as others have said, he already owns several high end brands

I think you'l see the retail footprint shrink and their online presence expand massively - which to be fair is what they should have done 5 years or more ago and they wouldn't have been in this situation.....


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 7:20 pm
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The new TriUK store is near where I live and I have to say they have some seriously nice bikes in stock (and a heck of a lot of them as well). I had a chat with the manager and they’ll be keeping their own identity. I wonder if some Evans locations will become TriUK?


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 7:22 pm
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If any sense, the ones that close are the large retail space high rent places. They look nice but it's a big shop with not much that probably sells sufficiently except the cheap end bikes.

I can't see it surviving though even with half the stores. Though downscale and focus on the maintenance side maybe.

Still, oversized Evans mugs?

I wonder what frightened Halfords off?

They had no idea what to do with the decent bikes. Or they saw all the forks were on the right way round and realised they couldn't live up to that quality.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 7:28 pm
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Probably the worst "rescue package" Evans staff could have hoped for.

Hope those who stay in jobs don't all end up on zero hours contracts to line that odious ****'s pockets even further.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 7:34 pm
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I can’t see it surviving though even with half the stores. Though downscale and focus on the maintenance side maybe.

Do you think the plan is for them to survive?

Strip, gut, extract and try and cash in on the name for as long as he can. Once the purchase price is recouped then dump what you need.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 7:34 pm
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A pre-pack allows the purchaser to essentially buy the assets of the business without being encumbered by its liabilities (like store cards and unfulfilled orders, as well as other creditors) – This isn’t a Mike Ashley fabricated ploy, but would have been the mechanism used by any potential purchaser I’m afraid…….

Cool thanks - so does that mean anyone who has placed an order for xmas is screwed?


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 7:49 pm
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What about warranty repairs, gift cards, bikes in for repair,stuff on order, product returns,cyclescheme, etc


 
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Do you think the plan is for them to survive?

Strip, gut, extract and try and cash in on the name for as long as he can. Once the purchase price is recouped then dump what you need.

Yeah basically any value is in the brand. Most people would rather buy a bike from 'Evans' than 'Sports Direct'. So they integrate the brand into the Sports Direct infrastructure and management system.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 8:02 pm
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Hmmm, presumably that means my warranty for my arkose has gone as well (pinnacle = evans right?)....

Also they've been spamming my inbox with lots of offers - anyone who's bought a bike in the last few weeks but not had it delivered / picked it up yet is presumably f***ed for several grand.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 8:04 pm
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I tell you what I really glad I didn't buy a gravel bike from them on pre-order. I was close to doing this last month before I went overseas to work for 6 weeks. Instead I ordered on CRC and had it delivered to my parents.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 8:05 pm
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 So they integrate the brand into the Sports Direct infrastructure and management system.

The management system?

Pile high, sell cheap.

They are going to need to keep the good staff, keep the good will of the customers and undercut some of the biggest web based bike shops.


 
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The management system?

Pile high, sell cheap.

They are going to need to keep the good staff, keep the good will of the customers and undercut some of the biggest web based bike shops.

Yeah I'm under no illusion about what the odious Sports Direct do. They are basically a massive market stall and as classy as such, and their management is ruthless as **** a bit like Amazon.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 8:13 pm
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It really is a sorry tale.

In 1999 Wiggle (trading at Butlers cycles) was a small Portsmouth LBS - a bit ratty to be honest but a nice bloke ran it. I remember getting a bit of a bollocking from him for upturning a big cardboard box he had in the middle of the store in place of a proper stand of past season triathlon and cycling kit as a clubmate said there was some good stuff hidden at the bottom. At the same time Evans was a proper little chain of 'posh' bike shops and had a catalogue distributed nationally. If you asked a cyclist to name a big bike retail specialist they'd probably have named Evans.

If I'd had to put my newly purchased first house on which  of the two would go on to dominate the UK market and which would make a string of poor choices, go into administration and be bought up by a slash and burn race to the bottom merchant there is no doubt which way I'd have bet.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 8:18 pm
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Ewww. Bought by sports direct.

Well, there's me not spending any money in evans any more 🙁


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 8:25 pm
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Just read this news and panicked cos I have 130 quid in vouchers to spend. Just used them online and they seem to have worked. Will report back if I hear otherwise.


 
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Bugger, for the staff especially. Tough times, not knowing what's going to happen, and now knowing your boss is a ruthless complete to55er before finding out which stores will stay and which will go.

I will not give Ashley a single penny of my money, and haven't since 2004. Its personal with me, particularly the way his business dealt with friends and colleagues of mine in the stores when Karrimor went bump, compared with the very human way Karrimor had previously taken over the business I worked for. Exactly the same scenario in both cases, company bought out at point of going into administration, completely different attitude, and it stank. I seriously hope the Evans staff don't have to deal with "management" staff coming in and treating them like shite, whilst offloading stock out of the back door. I believe at least 2 of our managers had the balls to call the police on them!


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 10:31 pm
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Ewww. Bought by sports direct.

Well, there’s me not spending any money in evans any more

Same here


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 10:36 pm
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particularly the way his business dealt with friends and colleagues of mine in the stores when Karrimor went bump, compared with the very human way Karrimor had previously taken over the business I worked for.

Yep. Absolutely.


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 11:07 pm
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compared with the very human way Karrimor had previously taken over the business I worked for.

YHA?


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 11:31 pm
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Me too.

I had a brief encounter with one of his companies recently. Never again!


 
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