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Happy days, based on what I'm reading above I'll be buying a solo C S medium as soon as it's available. I'm tempted to hang on for a carbon scout but there's no telling when that will appear. Also transition has yet to be tested in the carbon department so maybe SC is a safer bet frame-wise.

Missed all the links, is the new solo only available in blue and what type of blue is it? I have a 2015 Chameleon in bright blue/orange graphics which looks stunning but I'd not want two bikes in the same colour!


 
Posted : 04/09/2015 8:28 am
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Also transition has yet to be tested in the carbon department so maybe SC is a safer bet frame-wise.

Erm......
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Posted : 04/09/2015 8:34 am
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The blue Solo pic is still on google images if you refine by 'last 24 hours'.


 
Posted : 04/09/2015 9:16 am
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Missed all the links, is the new solo only available in blue and what type of blue is it?

It will also be available in a matte black and yellow.
Blue is called 'process blue' but looks like the old SC seabright blue to me.


 
Posted : 04/09/2015 9:32 am
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Also transition has yet to be tested in the carbon department so maybe SC is a safer bet frame-wise.

They did make a rather lovely carbon Covert, although it wasn't a light frame compared to the competition.


 
Posted : 04/09/2015 9:33 am
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Oh, and in the future companies ought to think twice about putting live pages on a website way in advance of a release date even if they don't supply links as you only have to type in the wrong URL and all their secrets are unveiled...
I'm sure they did think twice about putting it live 🙄


 
Posted : 04/09/2015 10:05 am
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Looking at the geometry for the new 5010; the ETT has increased by 1cm and the CS decreased by 1cm. So, the effect is to move the C0G of the rider back by 1cm (i.e. the thickness of my little finger). It's hard to imagine that the effect will be dramatic (especially when standing up and moving around).

Stems will presumably be a bit shorter to compensate for the longer ETT, which will speed the steering up a bit. But then the HA is one degree slacker, which slows it down a bit.

Maybe the change of colour is the biggest change 🙂


 
Posted : 04/09/2015 10:38 am
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Is this it?

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Posted : 05/09/2015 12:49 am
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^ thats the solo.


 
Posted : 05/09/2015 1:04 am
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I'll be having one of those when I win the lottery


 
Posted : 05/09/2015 10:36 am
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I reckon the image will be gone shortly... like all the other ones


 
Posted : 05/09/2015 10:43 am
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I didn't know if that was it, I'd remove it but it doesn't let me.

That image is off a simple google search.


 
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Edit.


 
Posted : 05/09/2015 10:47 am
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Got any Tallboy LT pics eddiebaby?


 
Posted : 05/09/2015 10:48 am
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If it's under and embargo STW will have signed something saying they won't publish - there are lots of empty posts in here which have pic discussions after them. It's part of how you do a full release - mate was on the Rocky Mountain DH launch, not allowed to talk about anything until they let it go but then everyone has their stories written ready to go.


 
Posted : 05/09/2015 10:51 am
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Nice flip-flops Mosey

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Posted : 05/09/2015 10:52 am
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Ha ha ha that's the wife's they were the wife's, she was selling them.


 
Posted : 05/09/2015 10:55 am
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The problem was that SC had pages up for the new bikes but hadn't put the new links in place or added any permissions. A google search came up with an image and TBH once you know something is there and have a clue of where you can simply experiment with different URLs until you find what you want. It took all of 5 minutes.


 
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The problem was that SC had pages up for the new bikes but hadn't put the new links in place or added any permissions

Yeah but every time one of those pics ends up on a site that has signed the form then it's a potential black mark and telling off for the site owner. It's that great problem with forums and the like.


 
Posted : 05/09/2015 11:01 am
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Ive got a 2014 carbon 5010 XL for sale if anyone is interested its a great bike. XT build with kashima shock £2500.


 
Posted : 05/09/2015 12:05 pm
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The problem was that SC had pages up for the new bikes but hadn't put the new links in place or added any permissions

Yeah but every time one of those pics ends up on a site that has signed the form then it's a potential black mark and telling off for the site owner. It's that great problem with forums and the like.

I wasn't aware of that. I shall amend my behaviour accordingly.


 
Posted : 05/09/2015 12:10 pm
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It's only my guess but it does explain why pics last about 30 mins throughout the thread - this being a Saturday somebody probably isn't working. The Shimano 11sp stuff threads got wiped too when they had a leaked mockup ad in them.


 
Posted : 05/09/2015 12:13 pm
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Solo looks to be a great evolution of an already great bike especially if the build kits come with 140mm pikes. I hope the blue grows on me - the old orange was so much nicer. Generally the new solo and bronson colours aren't great imo. What's with that pink and yellow colourway!? Normally they look better first hand than in pics though.


 
Posted : 05/09/2015 4:46 pm
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lol the other legal point is it's a 5010, solo is a Rocky Mountain CX bike 😉
My mate actually found one and has it in the shop next to the SC Solo frame and got cracked.
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Posted : 05/09/2015 4:49 pm
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I wish they'd hurry up and make the announcement, I cant wait to get my hands on a new blue 5010.
Chipps was/is in Downieville now for the press release....


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 4:06 pm
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Was there any suggestion of an updated heckler too?


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 9:46 pm
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Definitely a new Bronson and 5010, possibly a Tallboy LTc.
Not sure about any others.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 9:53 pm
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Will probably be a couple of months behind, I'd imagine.

Don't seem to see many of the current Heckler about though, compared to the Bronson & Nomad anyway.


 
Posted : 10/09/2015 9:24 am
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Properly announced now - [url= http://shop.18bikes.co.uk/news.php?articleid=202 ]here's our quick blurb on it [/url]

[url= http://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en/uk/bronson ]Bronson on the US site[/url]

[url= http://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en/uk/5010 ]5010 on the US site[/url]

I'd be surprised to see Heckler and SL stay in the lineup for much longer, but who knows?


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 8:52 am
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Solo looks to be a great evolution of an already great bike especially if the build kits come with 140mm pikes

take my money!


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 9:12 am
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slightly steeper head angle

they mean slacker, Bronson and Solo 1 degree slacker


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 9:14 am
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Raspberry?

Looks more like rhubarb and custard to me.


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 9:14 am
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Looking at the geometry for the new 5010; the ETT has increased by 1cm and the CS decreased by 1cm. So, the effect is to move the C0G of the rider back by 1cm

THey shortened the stays by 6mm, but steepened the seat angle, so rider is in basically the same place relative to the back wheel... front end is longer, and slacker too


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 9:20 am
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Should be some interesting attempts at keeping the mud away from these bearings:

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Posted : 11/09/2015 9:51 am
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my mistake, now sorted. slacker HA, steeper SA


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 10:02 am
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Interested to see the older lower link, because that looks like a maintenance nightmare. You would need to be very handy at cleaning and using the grease gun.


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 10:09 am
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Think I'd rather have the older link smacking the ground than that new one - that's gonna collect so much crap :/

Wonder if SC's advice on washing will change...

Stop washing your bike so much. We did some experiments with bikes that were washed a lot but ridden infrequently, bikes that were ridden a lot but washed infrequently, and bikes that were both washed and ridden a lot. Guess what? Your bike hates only being washed and not being ridden. This test group had the worst results. They became creaky and not much fun to be around, much like the people who own bikes like that. Don't get all angry (you know who you are), you can still wash your bike from time to time - and there are those times where it has to be done after every ride. Everything needs more attention during those times. BUT, maybe you should examine your priorities. It's a mountain bike. You can get dirt on it. It's OK.


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 11:20 am
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Old/current one wasn't really any different - just lower down. I guess you could argue that the bridge between the drive and non-drive shielded the area a little, but doubt it had much affect.

http://www.santacruzbicycles.com/es/uk/node/461


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 11:32 am
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I was going to say the same thing - it's always been there! Maybe slightly less of a shelf, but I don't see Newmad owners complaining.


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 1:47 pm
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The old one is more closed and the linkage is shorter providing less of a 'shelf'. Nomad riders ain't complaining because theirs is completely different and shielded...

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Posted : 11/09/2015 2:05 pm
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Love that spiel from SC on bike washing, something I'd worked out myself in recent years.

Can't see a lot of their owners following it though.

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Posted : 11/09/2015 2:14 pm
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Fail on the boost front. Disappointing, as SC normally don't go for daft standards.


 
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Maybe because it isn't daft and has actual benfits...


 
Posted : 11/09/2015 2:39 pm
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Hi, first time poster long time lurked here. I test rode a bronson in May and was unable to get one as they had sold out everywhere so as soon as 2016 bronson appeared on leisure lakes website I ordered one. Got a phone call today at 0900 from them saying the new bronson had been announced which was confusing seeing as the one on their website said 2016 when I ordered a week ago and was pretty much the same as the 2015s. Anyways I have changed my order to the new one in bright pink, they said they would call me again early next week to let me know when I would receive the bike. Not sure what to think about the top tube becoming a bit longer, I'm a 5''5 long legged short torsoed woman and the bronson is the first bike iv ever ridden that felt like it fits, all others I feel like I'm having to over reach for the bars so this has got me apprehensive.


 
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