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i want a new hardtail !
29' wheels, boost axles, 2x gears 120mm forks, light weight- for winter play/xc/adventure races. 'modern' geometry if possible. i don't mind last years models, or 2nd hand,in fact probably so as this year's models all seem to be 1x. any suggestions welcome ( size large )also open to frame only and build up


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 6:41 pm
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my new solaris is all that.


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 6:43 pm
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My Stanton sherpa is all that.


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 6:47 pm
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2nd the Stanton Sherpa, you described it exactly!


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 6:48 pm
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My SolarisMAX and Sherpa are/could be that (except the Stanton has B+ wheels and the Cotic has just got 29er wheels...).

I had to go custom on both to get 2x but both companies accommodated no problem.

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Just squint a little and think 29er instead.... ๐Ÿ˜‰

Both are large, Cotic has a sideswing FM which seems better (not sure if Stanton can route for it). Cotic is longer and (for me) has a more comfortable position. Stanton is more 'playful' but only has 100mm forks. Also has 142 bolt through rear (but I believe they have drop outs to suit Boost now making it a little more versatile in that 3 options). No, I don't really need two B+ bikes.... I'd sell the Stanton first (due to the Cotic being more comfortable and its main use for me is bikepacking...). Apologies if this is a ramble... ๐Ÿ˜ณ

Hold on, is that better?:

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Posted : 20/08/2017 7:01 pm
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I will be moving on my barely used medium Solaris max frame with a few extra bits if your interested OP .Brilliant bike but just not getting used .


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 7:11 pm
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Pivot Les, if budget isn't a factor 8)


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 7:12 pm
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Ha - if budget isn't a factor I'd go Chromag. Surface is amazing - and mine is last models spec (so not as slack as I'd like)

Edit - not got a boost rear but front is fine

You well btw? (Q to TomHoward)


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 7:26 pm
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I could be tempted by the rumoured new Soul...


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 7:40 pm
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Aye, not too shabby, currently lamenting only just being able to ride (non assisted...) for the first time in a month as done something to my hip meaning i had limited movement, all the while bricking it as torq 12:12 is in a week, I'm doing 12 hr solo...

Will we see you on the next shop ride?


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 7:46 pm
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Eek - sounds bad! Glad you're out again tho.

Re the shop ride I'm unlikely - now living darn sarf near Reading so making do with beech lined bridleways instead of rocks n mud.


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 7:57 pm
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Surely something lighter than steel for adventure races?


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 7:58 pm
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In the vain of recommending what you've got, I'll put forward the genesis tarn, my size large frame has longer reach (465mm) than the XL size Stanton or Cotic while having a short enough seat tube to allow me to run a long dropper.


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 7:59 pm
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My steel HT (Solaris) comes out at 11.5Kg with a carbon fork so not too shabby for "adventure racing". Got a Spearfish frame on the way (weigh?), not too sure on what the front end is going to be (I've got three options) but I don't think it will be more than 13Kg whichever I choose.


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 8:05 pm
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thanks guys for the suggestions. i have had look through them. are there any carbon or aluminium frames that fit the bill and a little lighter ?
i have just bought a new ibis ripley which i love, now need a winter equivalent hardtail, but funds not available for a high end option


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 8:07 pm
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are there any carbon

pivot les 29


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 8:09 pm
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That pivot les looks lovely, but a little short. Any alternatives?


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 8:16 pm
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I was wondering why everyone is recommending steel when the OP asked for light.

Surely carbon is the way to go


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 8:20 pm
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Trek Superfly//Procaliber - but only 100mm fork.


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 8:21 pm
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In a similar dilemma myself.
The Solaris Max, Stanton Sherpa and Santa Cruz Chameleon are the three I am mulling over.


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 8:27 pm
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And on the light carbon ones, stealth droplets don't seem to be catered for.


 
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And on the light carbon ones, stealth droplets don't seem to be catered for.

Piv... oh right yeah, short... is it really obvious what I want next?

I imagine because race light carbonistas don't run droppers, mainly.


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:25 pm
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But the pivot claims to be a ride all day rather than a race frame but a stealth dropper isn't possible without a 1x set up and a bit of drilling.


 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:49 pm
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Is the chameleon not suitable here?


 
Posted : 21/08/2017 7:54 am
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Isn't that a bit hefty?


 
Posted : 21/08/2017 7:57 am
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Transition Vanquish: https://www.transitionbikes.com/Bikes_Vanquish.cfm. Stealthy black for me please.

Frame 3.3lbs / 1500g. You'll wince when you see the price.


 
Posted : 21/08/2017 8:06 am
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Not sure on the fork, not 100% tech head here, but would the Kona Honzo CR range, carbon frame run 29er wheels and 120mm?

James


 
Posted : 21/08/2017 8:07 am
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The Vanquish is stunning. Was mulling one over when Kingdom came out with their X2 offer...


 
Posted : 21/08/2017 10:19 am
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New Niner Air 9


 
Posted : 21/08/2017 10:40 am
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yep, new inner air it is. just makes my eyes water at the price !


 
Posted : 22/08/2017 7:23 am
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The niner looks good. Wish it took a stealth dropper.

That Transition might be in the lead for me. Someone said it was an open mould bike but I can't find it anywhere.


 
Posted : 22/08/2017 9:21 am
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New Niner Air 9

Anyone found the UK pricing yet and I presume it would take a stealth dropper? Unless people are looking at the old frames on Stif?


 
Posted : 22/08/2017 9:35 am
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Looking on the niner site, it looks like it's still 27.2


 
Posted : 22/08/2017 9:46 am
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Nope 30.9


 
Posted : 22/08/2017 10:00 am
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Hard to trust the internet, I just found a Spanish site saying it was 31.6. Looking at the geometry though, it looks like getting a size that is long enough would mean I couldn't touch the floor sat on the top tube.


 
Posted : 22/08/2017 10:34 am
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Pics on Niner site show it built with a dropper and it says 30.9


 
Posted : 22/08/2017 10:58 am
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That explains it, I was looking at the carbon ones.


 
Posted : 22/08/2017 11:42 am