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lack of action by the ministry of STW is rather lame IMHO
I'm sure they'll tell us it's their site so they can do what they want, but it really smacks of double standards to me
They did delete a couple of threads that were pointed out as tangobravo AKA fruit AKA neil AKA Superpooper components had been puffing his tat on.
I think by letting this thread run and letting Fruit hang himself, they're doing more than enough.
I told you.... He's probably done himself in by now!!!
Just another statistic for little ginger's commiting scuicide!!!
Hora I fixed your post.
[i]IF it was my business. I would have sold it after a month for a loss and then spent months trying to buy one just like it for more money.[/i]
I've cancelled my order with the idiot.
Can’t believe this is still rumbling on without any response from tangobravo/fruit/neil.
I’ve also re-read the post he made yesterday that set this whole thing rolling
[i]What’s all this threats of leagal crap, cant you bloody read? Smells of trolls to me, its the same superstar bashing crew as always just [b]changing their names using the STW loophole[/b] by the sounds of it.[/i]
You do really have to laugh at the ‘changing their names’ comment amongst other things.
As I said yesterday he’s certainly lost me as a customer for acting like such an idiot. I honestly wouldn’t trust him now. Perhaps if he now posted on this thread as himself instead of being spineless I would change my mind. I’m sure others feel the same.
I also believe the first post was trolling at its finest. Perhaps it was fruit who posted it himself – who knows.
I don’t believe even Brant would stoop this low.
Any mods wish to explain to me why my original thread was deleted yesterday? Have checked my emails, but don't have any explanation yet.
[i]Any mods wish to explain to me why my original thread was deleted yesterday? Have checked my emails, but don't have any explanation yet. [/i]
If your that concerned email them.
The post is still cheap though and why not give it a bash eh? (Not with a rock mind) I like playing with fire so of to order one now!!!
Just another statistic for little ginger's commiting scuicide!!!
Thats abit harsh.
I can;t seem to find any TangoBravo thread posts. Have they all been deleted??!??
Pook - some are still there
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/profile/tangobravo
aha - good work Holmes
The more of those 'met Neil' posts I read the more I think that tangobravo/neil/fruit has mental issues.
take a look at this when talking about grips, after he 'met' neil at some event.
[i]He said he would email me pictures of his samples, hoping the pattern will be xtra grippy. Im waiting till then to see [/i]
But you are Neil you fool! Mental, he's twice as mad as a very mad thing. Totally bonkers if you ask me.
Oh my sides! I'm loving this thread 🙂
How do you spell schadenfreude again cos I'll have a large helping please?
Gary_M - MemberThe more of those 'met Neil' posts I read the more I think that tangobravo/neil/fruit has mental issues.
I came to that conclusion some time ago but felt it was unfair to raise them on this forum.
The more of those 'met Neil' posts I read the more I think that tangobravo/neil/fruit has mental issues.
You think multiple personality issues, Gary? 😉
Shouldn't STW be pulling all his magazine ads for this sort of behaviour? If it were my mag, that's what I'd do.
WHere is he, the wee schizofrenic nutcase?
[i]Shouldn't STW be pulling all his magazine ads for this sort of behaviour? If it were my mag, that's what I'd do.[/i]
Eh I think it would be pretty daft to pull his ads, who would loose out the most from that one? To be honest after this thread he's be as well cancelling his ads anyway.
I get the feeling someone else would come along and replace him quite quickly. Since he's been advertising for free and slagging off other companies I'd say that they'd lost a bit of money like that.
To be honest after this thread he's be as well cancelling his ads anyway.
Do you really think so? How many of his existing and potential customers will actually be following this post? And how many people *really* care whether he's a twot or not?
E.g. Ryanair is pretty sh*t and their CEO is an utter tube, but their product is cheap as chips, and that's what seems to count. If consumers really heeded their moral compass, McDonalds and Nike would have disappeared years ago... Superstar might experience a dip in sales for a few days, but i doubt anything more significant will happen to them following this STW debacle.
Components fail from every company, no matter how costly or prestigious- customer service varies from day to day, depending on the mood of staff and indeed the attitude with which the customer themself presents the problem.
With that in mind, I think this stinks- everything has been blown out of proportion and is now just some kind of farcical witch hunt- it would seem Fruit had a number of enemies on here, maybe in part because the components he sells aren't quite in vogue like Chris King or the latest prada hubs daaaarling- if (and it is still an if) tangobravo does prove to be one and the same, is it not understandable that he might want a more anonymous persona to express his opinions without preconceptions of a clicky set of bitchy schoolgirls.
Personally I have had multiple dealings with Neil and SSC and have been more than happy with the service I received and the quality of components in relation to their cost.
I'm off to ride my bike- maybe you ladies should rifle through your wardrobes and powder your noses- Fashion week is less than a month away girls... still time to scour rock pools and beaches for this season's must have accessory.
Superstar might experience a dip in sales for a few days
Or might already have been dipping. Hence his behaviour?
...It would seem Fruit had a number of enemies on here, maybe in part because the components he sells aren't quite in vogue like Chris King or the latest prada hubs daaaarling- if (and it is still an if) tangobravo does prove to be one and the same, is it not understandable that he might want a more anonymous persona to express his opinions without preconceptions of a clicky set of bitchy schoolgirls.
I think you're missing the point. Regardless of the quality of his own components, whatever it may be, the level of his customer service, whatever it may be, and the fashionability (or not, is that even a word?) of his brand the point for me is the IMO dishonest practice of actively pretending to be someone else to actively slag off his competitors products. And that's not something seemingly done in passing, but to me looks like a purposeful, intended act. The fact that he's also slipped into comically talking about having conversations with himself is by-the-by.
It's that which means that I certainly wouldn't buy from him, no more than I'd buy anything off anyone else who was discovered acting in such a shifty fashion. I suspect he couldn't give a t0ss though..
He's been dishonest. He's affectively hoodwinked his customers, pretending to be someone else.
His product is awful though. Every item I've ever had of his has failed or arrived blatantly faulty. 3 chainsets (each a replacement for the other), 3 BBs, every set of brake pads. In fact, I don't know a single person who's bought a chainset off him and it not failed.
The fact that he accuses his customers of being liars (there have been a fair few) and then comes out with this, essentially a big lie, is dishonest and that's the issue with it.
Interesting choice of name and [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/profile/duditude ]first post[/url] is all I'll say:
[url= http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=duditude ][b]duditude[/b][/url] - The unfounded belief, mostly held by men or dudes, that everything will all work out just fine despite the very real possibility that it won't.
My boyfriend was exhibiting overt duditude when he said he doesn't need to wear a motorcycle helmet because he's "not going to get into an accident."
Oh he hasn't wheeled out the girlfriend with the Oxbridge degree to defend him again has he? *yawn*
Although I was quite fancying a bit of a race at Cwm Carn.
For some reason this thread reminds me of watching the really bad acts on that X Factor show, like modern day bear baiting......
*waves@fruit's burd*
He's called in reinforcements has he?
Re: duditude
It seems unlikely that anyone possessing a degree of any sort could even begin to consider defending the douchebaggery on display by the fruity tangobozo. It's clear to the impartial observer (ie. me, having never met nor bought anything from SS) that the man's a deceitful ****.
Oh, Neil! Neil! ... Orange peel!
This thread reminds me a little of playground culture - someone makes a fool of themselves for whatever reason and suddenly it's cool to jump on the underdog. Well I'm too old to care so I'll own up to having a Superstar sticker on my bike 🙄 and to having bought two (yes that's right, two!!) Superstar headsets and shock horror they've been fine (OK so only one is in regular use and at the price I wasn't expecting miracles but it looks as though even if it doesn't hold up to a Welsh winter that bearings will be dead easy to change anyway) - super quick shipping and communication too. And yeah, before any smart arse points it out, I am fully aware that I don't normally hang onto frames long enough to wear out a headset 😉 .
I'm sure that Superstar will survive this little glitch (heck look at some of the other companies who get grief on here) and that Neil will learn something from all this.
and suddenly it's cool to jump on the underdog.
Well, I think it's more the fact that 'underdog' has done his best to malign other companies' (particularly OO/Ragley) products under an assumed identity. That is douchebaggery. It's in the dictionary. "douchebaggery [i]n[/i]. The act of maligning other companies' products under an assumed identity."
Yeah, but do we all believe everything we read on the 'net? 😉
Yeah, but do we all believe everything we read on the 'net?
No but if you can back it up with evidence of IP addresses, phone numbers, names, links etc...its probably safe to.
Some people make a job out of it you know....
SSP
Going to be honest though, if you drum up business or promote your wares on forums you have to be prepared for the risks.
Its an open forum and anything can be written, unless there is a sensible and impartial mod.
It may be a tad unfair but superstar might see aspects of a vendetta and bad reviews in the short term. Nowt against the guy but he needs to conduct business abit better. Very crass.
Would I shop with him? I emailed him asking if he sells wheels seperately last week. No reply, not even 'sorry no'. Customers arent always current shoppers. I asked him previously if the pads had any sort of guarantee after hearing stories of his pads shearing- basically wanted reassurance that he had solved the problem. Again no reply (I had already ordered multiple sets of his pads so maybe he thought the money was already in the bank so couldnt be assed?).
Is it too late to laugh?
Hora - give the guy a break Dissociative Identity Disorder (as it now seems to be called) can be pretty time consuming 😉
What a silly billy he is!!
On a lighter note, I've just had an email from superstar with some Bank Holiday Special offers......... 😆
jojoA1 - Member
Oh my sides! I'm loving this thread
How do you spell schadenfreude again cos I'll have a large helping please?
You only know that word as you saw Lisa in the Simpsons use it!
What a thread! a suspicious post from there from duditude, it being his first and only and all that.
"Fashion week is less than a month away girls"
Hi Neil.
maybe this will all end next week when the schools go back and you all have homework to do?!
regardless of how bad the service or dissatisfied (yes I know I cant spell)you are with a product, slating the company on a forum doesnt help anyone and is, at the end of the day, more than a little bit sad. Go ride your bikes.
Rant over.
Here you go: http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/profile/duditude
Perhaps we could do a Fruit rant and accuse this person of being a troll..........
aaaaahhh! remember now!I have met Mr SSC.... 'Cocky' is not a word I use very often... 😐
I remember I just thought he was an employee from a competitor... but he was scouting me out... what for ? no idea...
Luckily for me my filthy disorganised shop which I started with hardly anything and pure talent 😆 , camouflaged the fact I'm a fuc*ing genius that just toys with fate due to boredom... 😯
But I wish I'd had the bank of mum and dad as well! 😉
I remember now... as he left I thought 'you arsehole!', and I'm not often wrong...

