Received my handlebars today, an eBay bargain at well under 50% of RRP 🙂 Lovely things, suit the frame really well! Now I 'just' need some wheels and a groupset 😆
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Now that...
...excuse me...
*sits down*
I like.
Once it's fully built would you mind posting a pic or two? What are the plans for it in terms of wheels and groupset? Oh...and most importantly, once built...how does it ride?!
Interesting! 😀
Does your ebay source have any more? if yes please email me a link.
Those things are silly money aren't they? £350?
SRAM red?
I think I'll go with Force tbh, most people are advising me Red isn't worth the extra jump in cost... leaves more for wheels at some point, for the moment I'm just hoping to source some decent 'training' wheels for £200-£250 or so...
You got the legs to justify that or ATGNI?
cynic-al - MemberYou got the legs to justify that or ATGNI?
Agreed, going to have to be quick to justify that bike.
Bloody nice though, and jealous.
Deep section carbon wheels?
ATGNI? what's that mean guv'ner?
You got the legs to justify that?
since when is it about justifying anything? 😆 But my legs are pretty good (or will be once I get back into 'proper' cycling again, part of the reason for this beauty 🙂 )
To (partly) allay the cries of 'more money than sense', it's all second-hand thus far, the R3 has a repaired righthand seatstay (very well done from what I can see, time will tell!), current spend is £730, which ain't bad at all! 8)
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what is the roadie obsession with large logos, it reminds me of chav fashion.
Came to this conclusion this week on the London to Paris, if you've got a fast bike you gotta be able to use it.
one guy on a very expensive Willer walking up climbs, just not good at all.
THat out of alignment stem cap would annoy me!
ATGNI = All The Gear No Idea, seems fitting, only sub 22 10 riders qualify for that frame.
Only having a laugh, whatever jets you out on your bike.
training wheel we're got mavic Aksiums at work, £189.99 the pair, with the mavic MP3 scheme you pay an admin fee (£14 on a pair of aksiums) and you get unlimited 2yr warranty with mavic.
That out of alignment stem cap would annoy me!
As it would me, if it was the finished build 😉
ATGNI = All The Gear No Idea, seems fitting, only sub 22 10 riders qualify for that
Ah, should've figured it out really! Sub 22 10, I assume you mean 22 minutes for a 10 mile TT? So around 43km/hr average... nope, I don't reckon I'm that quick, yet 😉 Have never done a TT but I used to be a pretty good triathlete a few years back, would be nice to regain some of that fitness! As I recall, my PB for 40km ride was around 1hr 7min or so (35km/hr average?), followed by 10km run (I think my PB was approx 36min for that...) Swim was always my weakest leg, I hated it!
Looking very nice so far. And if you like it, then it doesn't matter if you are ATGNI. I know I am!
i wouldn't clamp a carbon frame like that in a workstand...
bootiful!!!
Campag groupset please
Sorry to hijack psychle, but I am about to sell the wheels and groupset off my time trial bike as follows:
2010 Mavic Cosmic SLR (basically the clincher version of the Cosmic Ultimate)
SRAM Red Cassette
SRAM Red Rear Mech
SRAM Red Front Mech
SRAM Red Brakes
SRAM Red chain
Truvativ Ceramic BB
Because it is a tt bike, it has SRAM TT shifters and brake levers, so you would need to buy some SRAM Red shifters (or Force - they would work too).
It was built on a bit of a whim and a dream and has been ridden 50 miles so it is like absolutely new.
Let me know if it might be of interest and we can discuss a price.
i wouldn't clamp a carbon frame like that in a workstand...
It behaves quite elastically dontcha know. You would see it deform considerably before you did any damage.
i know, but i'd clamp any bike by the seatpost.
Fair enough, I thought it was an anti carbon comment!
more shiny carbonalicousness... courtesy of Solarider 🙂
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Pressures? I hope they are the training wheels!
All these dull ass new bits threads from pshycho are making me wonder what the 'ell he does for a living as well as the small hint of him being on here all the time 😛
Oh and very swish wheels.
You'll look uber 8) in the town centre outside cafe nero.
Pressures?
Not sure what you're asking there guv?
I hope they are the training wheels!
picked up a set of lightly used durace wheels off here for 'training' and general use... though to be honest, these Carbones are so damn lovely, I don't know if I'll ever want to take them off! been admiring them all day, such beautiful things they are 🙂
You'll look uber 8) in the town centre outside cafe nero.
Well, hopefully I'll look uber 8) fanging around Richmond Park and the Surrey Hills... really looking forward to working on my fitness, and this baby is going to be a big part of that 🙂
I meant you can't have a bling race bike without tubs and expect to be taken seriously, they set a true race bike apart from the other cervelos ridden round richmong park 😀
pressures= short for high pressure clinchers, ie not tubs.
It'll look very nice when it's done, but PLEASE take off the valve addenda...
pressures= short for high pressure clinchers, ie not tubs.
Ah, I see... not [i]au fait[/i] with the roadie lingo me 😆
I meant you can't have a bling race bike without tubs and expect to be taken seriously, they set a true race bike apart from the other cervelos
I know tubs are what a 'proper' race bike would have... but clinchers are still pretty good nowadays right?
working on my fitness, and this baby is going to be a big part of that
That's what I used to tell myself until I woke up next to cafe nero and realised it was just bull talking me into parting with money to buy a bike.
Your time will come 😆
Least you have plans anyway, nice ride and it gets the thumbs up from me.
Iirc the athertons race arouund on Cervelo's to train on just for a hoot.
but clinchers are still pretty good nowadays right?
They're absolutely fine! mostly just a question of one-upmanship really, which is what a lot of cycling is about 😉
They're absolutely fine! mostly just a question of one-upmanship really, which is what a lot of cycling is about
LOLs at the irony on this thread.
Love Sir velo, gonna save for an S2/3 when/if I get a job next year.
HOWEVER, those wheels ruin the aesthetic for me...sorry but I simply don't go for what is essentially an average quality rim with a spoiler on it.
If your gonna do those whees, they simply HAVE to be carbon tubs...darling.
You've been Gok'd
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http://www.rolfprima.com/products-carbonTdF38.php
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Zipp_303_Tubular_Rear_Road_Bike_Wheel/5360046069/
Love Sir velo, gonna save for an S2/3 when/if I get a job next year.
HOWEVER, those wheels ruin the aesthetic for me...sorry but I simply don't go for what is essentially an average quality rim with a spoiler on it.
If your gonna do those whees, they simply HAVE to be carbon tubs...darling.
You've been Gok'd
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http://www.rolfprima.com/products-carbonTdF38.php
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Zipp_303_Tubular_Rear_Road_Bike_Wheel/5360046069/
a fine choice of wheels. That bike is looking serious mate, top job. I do like the SRAM cranks, nice and chunky.
I'm currently speccing out my dream road bike, to be build up over the winter, I'm going with campag chorus 11....
One more thing, those seat stays are insane!
Who did the repair?
Tubs are for clueless poseurs and sponsored racers only (oh, and triathletes). Given the increase in RR you get from using tub tape or imperfect gluing and the quality of 'open tubular' type clinchers, i've yet to read a convincing argument in their favour.
Who did the repair?
[url=www.carboncyclerepairs.co.uk]Carbon Cycle Repairs (CBR)[/url] carried it out, looks pretty solid to me, I'm no expert though 😆 ! I think I'll get the chainstay painted at some point, though for now will leave it naked just to keep an eye on it...
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I'm going to chomp here....Tubs are for clueless poseurs and sponsored racers only (oh, and triathletes
Why is it teams that spends 100s of thousands of pounds getting the most efficient bikes use tubs (GB track team for example), even those sponsored by companies that don't do tubs anymore?
Rolling resistance arguments aside, tub rims are lighter and/or stronger, less prone to pinch punctures and are safer in the event of a puncture. Tubs do deform better due to their shape and so grip harder too
Maybe the photo doesn't do it justice (probably the case).... but that 'repair' looks interesting....
Oh, and...
Why is it teams that spends 100s of thousands of pounds getting the most efficient bikes use tubs (GB track team for example), even those sponsored by companies that don't do tubs anymore?Rolling resistance arguments aside, tub rims are lighter and/or stronger, less prone to pinch punctures and are safer in the event of a puncture. Tubs do deform better due to their shape and so grip harder too
All true and very real benefits.... provided you have a team car following you to hand up a wheel in the event of a flat....
Who cares if the bike is for poseurs or too much bike for the average user.
It looks great. And will keep you enthusiastic about riding it.
I like...
provided you have a team car following you to hand up a wheel in the event of a flat....
Exactly. What does a decent tub cost, £50? And for puncture repairs you need to post them off to that chap who advertises in the back of the comic at i don't know, £10 a time? Surely the disadvantages outweigh the benefits (which i don't deny) for 'average' users? Or maybe i'm just a spendthrift.
All true and very real benefits.... provided you have a team car following you to hand up a wheel in the event of a flat....
Even at a crappy level, most road races have a neutral service vehicle. However if not, you're buggered anyway, it's not as if you're going to be able to swap a tube and then chase to get back on
I agree a £10 repair is more expensive than a £5 tube or a 50p patch, but if you ride a carbon cervelo....
Maybe the photo doesn't do it justice (probably the case).... but that 'repair' looks interesting....
The flash picks the fibres up pretty brightly, it looks fine in natural light (to me). It's obviously not unidirectional like (I think?) the original was, but it should be strong enough, given that the stays don't take a massive amount of load (apparently, so I've read!)... time will tell I guess! 😯
Even at a crappy level, most road races have a neutral service vehicle. However if not, you're buggered anyway, it's not as if you're going to be able to swap a tube and then chase to get back on
What I meant was that on an average Sunday bimble - not a race - a flat with tubs is going to be a monumental PITA. I'm not disagreeing that tubs have advantages (though the gap is closing), but for the average Joe - even one who races a bit, but mostly 'just rides' - it's not worth the hastle.
The flash picks the fibres up pretty brightly, it looks fine in natural light (to me).
Fair enough - the outline/edges do look to follow the line of the original profile.... it's just the reflection of the flash down the middle make sit look VERY uneven. Time will tell...
the stays don't take a massive amount of load (apparently, so I've read!)... time will tell I guess
Genuinely interested where you read that? 😯
I've read/heard that too and it makes sense to me.
Genuinely interested where you read that? 😯
Bike Radar had this to say in their review of the 2008 R3 (which mine is):
"The squared-off Squoval main tubes and chainstays are basically so stiff that the seatstays don’t need to add any vertical strength, just torsional stiffness"
I've read (and heard) the same elsewhere. Stands to reason, I mean, look how skinny they are, they're obviously not taking a massive amount of vertical loading!
I guess if you consider (simplistically) the rear triangle in isolation, the chain stays are necessarily stiffer than the seat stays to react pedaling/chain loads and therefore have a considerable stiffness against vertical bending as well. If you are prepared to keep on beefing up the chain stays then the seat says can be thinned out, giving the effect of some decoupling of the riders ar$e from the rear wheel. So yes, fair enough.
EDIT: Too slow 😉
A while back I did some FE analysis for someone-who-shall-remain-nameless on a new type of pivotless 'full-suspension' frame design. It was interesting [s]a complete nightmare[/s] trying to balance the vertical stiffness/lateral stiffness/fatigue life/weld strength. Didn't go anywhere as the final form looked a bit odd! 😉
Am I right in thinking Beloki's crash was due to melting glue on a tub?
And the melting tarmac.....
A while back I did some FE analysis for someone-who-shall-remain-nameless on a new type of pivotless 'full-suspension' frame design. It was interesting a complete nightmare trying to balance the vertical stiffness/lateral stiffness/fatigue life/weld strength. Didn't go anywhere as the final form looked a bit odd!
Odder than this? 🙂
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Hell yeah - odder-squared!! 😆
i'm not going to click on that beloti video, makes me feel sick every time i see it.
Nice frame, verrrry nice wheelz Guv. If the repair was done by a pukka Company, presumably they'll warrant it? If so, gerrit painted and cut the naysayers off in their first breath.
Who gives a flying f...errr fig if this is too much/too little/not tubs/wired on (excuse me 'clincher' is dammed 'merican not British you see). The only reason you're getting this sort of feedback is it's a roadbike. These silly comments don't seem to follow a pic of a Mojo SL tricked up to the eyeballs does it?
I'd like them Cosmics if your feeling the heat of public humiliation 🙂
those who dis are just jealous! lovely looking bike and am sure you will have a lot of fun with it.
Can't resist wading into the wheel debate here. Tubs vs clinchers is a debate with no end (SRAM vs Shimano vs Campag anybody?). For the real world, you just can't beat a clincher. I have run tubs and clinchers on many bikes, using many rims. Anybody who can tell the difference between the 2 nowadays is kidding themselves.
Pros use tubs because:
1) They have support to hand them spare wheels if they puncture
2) You can ride them stone flat, which maters in a race
3) The rims are marginally lighter
At full inflation, you just can't tell the difference these days. BTW, Liquigas have been using these exact wheels to great effect.
Nice build mate. Looking good.