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"I don't want your death on my hands just because you're an idiot"
Really? I may have been hearing things but what I thought he said when challenged on the fact that he knew there were cyclists on his left hand side, was 'I don't give a ****, you were in the wrong lane'. Maybe I'm being overly critical but if a driver had said that to me after hitting me from behind then i wouldn't be overly happy.
Why you calling him a hero? all it does is make me question your impartiality.
I'm not impartial. I'm a regular bike commuter I'm predisposed to side with the guy on the bike. Unless they do something so obviously fkn stupid that its almost impossible to defend.
I may have been hearing things but what I thought he said when challenged on the fact that he knew there were cyclists on his left hand side, was 'I don't give a *, you were in the wrong lane'.
Listen again....
He is told "this is London, there are always cycles on the inside"
to which he replies "I don't give a *, you were in the wrong lane"
he then goes into the fact information is widely available NOT to do this.
I agree with southern yeti .... that is how I interpret this.. but I am willing to see there are other interpretations...
I'd go beyond Southern yeti and say what the driver is trying to express is that
"you just nearly got yourself killed doing something that is widely publicised as a good way to get yourself killed and is illegal [b]and you are shouting at me[/b]" .... hence the not giving a ****....
but that's my interpretation partly based on the driver swerving away when he impacted and the general confusion created by the "camera guy" and how I've felt when someone has through their own stupidity nearly caused a serious injury then started shouting at someone
Only Sunday I encountered 2 riders going the wrong way along a one way trail.
After flying down with my kid they then shouted at us for essentially them going the right way and having to get out of our way ..... I was still in shock from their sudden appearance round a blind bend whilst I had no wheels even on the ground... what do they want me to do brake in mid-air???
Despite being with my kid (and not usually acting like this or saying **** in front of my kid) told them they were going the f**cking wrong way so shut the **** up ...
[b]The irony[/b] being I was angry and upset because I'd nearly hurt them... but they had accused me of behaving irresponsibly... but shouting accusations at someone who is actually in the right when their concern was you could have hurt/killed them is a bad start.
I regretted what I'd said 10 minutes later and explained to the kid I was very upset because I was scared I was going to hurt them but shouldn't have said what I did but at the time
That's it, you've hit the nail on the head. I don't know why you're all getting so hung up on what's said afterwards.
NOTHING they say to each other for the first 5-15+ mins after this event is going to be coherent.
- One's just been hit and quite lucky to have not been killed frankly on a normally mundane commute.
- The other has just nearly badly hurt/killed someone while working.
When was the last time you had a very close call with a 1+ton piece of machinery when out on your bike. Once that flight or fight adrenaline kicks then whatever you say in the initial moments is not you/ how you normally conduct yourself.
When was the last time you had a very close call with a 1+ton piece of machinery when out on your bike. Once that flight or fight adrenaline kicks then whatever you say in the initial moments is not you/ how you normally conduct yourself.
I think this does apply to a lot of the interaction after, including the lack of reflection on the part of both the cyclist(s) and the driver.
I wonder how it may have panned out if Muppet man with the camera hadn't have been there to antagonise the driver with his frankly ridiculous comments.
At the end of the day the cyclists acted like dickheads and I would say 100% the fault of the cyclist. He created the entire situation by being where he was. If a car had done the same thing this thread would have been two pages at the most. Did he deserve to get hurt, of course not, nobody does. Genuinely hope he's learnt from this bad experience and will stop dicing with HGVS as a result
All those cyclists should be forced to join the Tuffty club.
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Is it time for co-drivers in london? One to drive and one act as spotter?
Is it time for co-drivers in london? One to drive and one act as spotter?
People keep mentioning this sort of thing, but think it through. How on earth would it work in practice? In aviation you have two pilots, but they are highly trained, in a predicatble evnvironment and there is a lot of work on how they perform together. You can't just have some bloke yelling "Bike on the Inside!!" or whatever. Apart from anything else think about the legal implications. Who is to blame if the spotter doesn't spot or the driver reacts and hits someone else. Non starter.
Funny, just seen the STW feed on Facebook - under vid says "Lorry in a hurry from the lights side swipes a cyclist
YOUTUBE". 😆
Glad to see the cyclist wasn't injured. Hopefully looking at the footage he will realise how stupid he was. How can the truck driver possibly see whats going on in his blind spot.
This is London?
THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAA!
lol **** cyclists