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Ok maybe they're not all fed up with going out in Scotland.
I'd like to see the media focusing on the overwhelming compliance rather than just the odd exception though.
People need to be told they're doing well to motivate them to continue, as this isn't gonna be over for months.
imnot - post a comment on their strava a/c.
Ok maybe they’re not all fed up with going out in Scotland.
Those photos from Strathclyde Country Park made it look sunny. You know that the chances of another sunny day down in there in the next three months are close to zero.
Those photos from Strathclyde Country Park made it look sunny. You know that the chances of another sunny day down in there in the next three months are close to zero.
And folk from Scotland's black country only get a few days out of the pit/stampworks/foundry, they'll be back in the dark tomoro.
^^^ Colin and Greg, you both saw my FB post yesterday on this. Strava feed loaded with locals popping out regular daily 80 plus mile rides, incl some semi pro riders, ****in ejits.. 😟
I went out for a 2 mile run round the community centre, which has gates shut at the weekend. First exercise outside my garden in 8 days.
Was ace, put in a right wee short tempo effort, along with 30 mins exercise via YouTube, and some kettlebells, that's am hour a day.
An hour a day of quite high intensity will see me through, it'll have to when we get reigned in even further this week due to selfish dicks.
Your entitled to your opinion Iain. We all have different perceptions on risk and impacts on wellbeing. I’m taking the advice from the Scottish government and the CMO. If that changes I will align with it.
^^^ aye, I’m sure Jason Leitch would support you on that....
Well, the cold wind seems to have kept a lot of the 'new outdoor' crowd in and the Beeb haven't been fed much propaganda this weekend from what I have seen, so we might get to next weekend without full lockdown.
I may be wrong. I hope not.
One of my favourite song writters John Prine critical with Covid.
Had a great ride at 9 pm tonight down the TPT for about 50 mins locally. The cold and dark seems to keep the pests away :D. Sadly the evenings are only going to get warmed and lighter. May have to get up at 6 am over the summer for same.
Went out for a four hour ride today
Well you really are a loony then 😟
Oh, and you manage to say ‘I’ 4 times, it’s not about you, it’s about everyone. Very selfish approach.
Eh, unless someone can explain otherwise I really can't see the problem with a ride straight from the door?? We're supposed to be avoiding other people right, and also not taking unnecessary risks. A 4 hour solo ride on quiet roads definitely ticks the first box.... and the increased risk of having an accident has got to be really pretty marginal.
Hoping to find an hour or two in between trying to hold a job down and keep the kids entertained and schooled to do the same myself this week.
DfT stats tell us in 2018 99 cyclists died on Britain’s roads in 2018 and 3,707 were seriously injured. So if the lock down lasts 3 months we could normally expect about 25 deaths and 930 serious injuries in that period. However 90% of killed or seriously injured cyclists were involved in an accident with a motor vehicle so say road traffic has reduced by 70% because of corona virus we could expect about 9 deaths and 345 serious injuries during a three month lock down. However the number if bike journeys is probably much reduced as people will not be commuting to work so probably even less will be KSI. So logically cycling just now is a pretty low risk activity however when has logic ever been used to guide government policy? So even if the risk to the health service of 4 hour ride is negligible if the press start publicizing cyclists regularly doing big 4 hour rides that will be looked on as taking the piss and we'll probably be stopped from cycling all together. So if you are going to do it just keep it to yourself and don't post on social media
I went for a ride at about 6am Saturday, still a fair few people driving to places to walk their dogs. Only managed about 8 miles just keeps the legs ticking over.
Aye, if there’s a further lock-down it’ll all be the fault of a few cyclists
The narcissism expressed on this thread is something wondrous to behold. The idea that the actions of one or two people doing a few extra miles than the average person will effect govt policy is incredible. I think some folk need to perhaps step away from this thread.
I agree with you but I think that was sarcasm ^
I always wondered why people enthusiastically volunteered to inform for the Stasi and stuff like that.
It's been quite interesting how a small but not insignificant group of people are getting semis over enforcing these rules. The chance to enforce and inform on your fellow citizens seems to give some people at lot of satisfaction. The threat of CV justifies everything.
The vast majority of folk are doing a good job here to cut down the spread. It's working amazingly well.
I wonder how long it'll take before folk really kick off. No jobs, no liberty and nothing to do. The last of our worries will be whether a 1 or 2 hour ride is ok if this goes on for months.
2 hours out yesterday. I avoided cycle paths and used roads instead which was great because they were deserted. The only bit that wasn't deserted was my local neighbourhood, where lots of people were getting their daily exercise.
Where I live it would seem to be far less of a risk to go out road riding in the countryside than staying close to home, because I really did see no-one once I got away from my local streets.
@tomd I was thinking the same regarding informers.
Re. the general cyclist hate, its classic tabloid, find an enemy that can be villifed without affecting much of their readership. If tabloids/daytime tv went against pensioners having a natter outside the shops it would piss off a big section of their target audience. Half their core viewer/readership already hate cyclists so its a win-win.
Personally I have no issue with people going for longish steady rides alone; I'm not sure the general public keep an eye on strava so won't really be able to tell how long someone has been out for.
I'm sticking to the turbo purely because only being allowed out once a day, its better to use ti taking child out to throw a ball around a bit.
Slightly off topic, but anyone who is getting into turboing for the first time and not doing any real riding, rember to do some core/support muscle excersizes to avoid issues in knees etc. Particularly glutes in my experiance.
I always wondered why people enthusiastically volunteered to inform for the Stasi and stuff like that.
It’s been quite interesting how a small but not insignificant group of people are getting semis over enforcing these rules. The chance to enforce and inform on your fellow citizens seems to give some people at lot of satisfaction.
Ah, rise of the curtain twitchers.
It is mainly to do with be utter hypocrites whilst having an obsequious desire to please the higher ups in the vain hope of recognition.
See Chief ARP Warden Hodges in Dad's Army.
I'm not seeing much tabloid hate for cyclists tbh.
It's mostly folk on here.
I’m not seeing much tabloid hate for cyclists tbh.
It’s mostly folk on here.
check your local facebook page. the vitriol is strong on mine.
^
kicked off big time on one of my local ones, STW would have a field day given the subject matter....
In short (not me, someone on there and I paraphrase slightly to simplify)
My dogs are not great around other dogs and people; I walk them away from others because of that
They're both 35-40kg each and I can't control them both on leads at the same time, because I'm only 55kg myself.
So I have to go out for 2 walks morning and evening.
They're only lead walks with the dogs, so I also go out for exercise myself because my garden's not big enough to exercise in
If I drive somewhere I can let them off the lead away from others so they only need one walk and do a run myself = one trip but involving a short drive.
- blue touch paper well and truly lit there....... some folk are building a scaffold as we speak!!
I think that this a public link. The tale is from a few years ago and is of one very, very, luck bloke - https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/a-picture-with-a-story-to-tell/32352
the guy (Simon) at Rotec cycles died of a heart attack when out riding too..
However, that doesn't for a single second mean we should all stop cycling.
check your local facebook page. the vitriol is strong on mine.
Thought I'd check mine as there is usually bugger all on there (most of the villagey types are too old and the ones who work are too busy to curtain twitch).
Blow me down. Anti mountain bike vitriol.
Same two NIMBYs as normal.
"They think they own the place"
"Never use hand signals"
And implying that a vandalised gate was cyclist-related.
As soon as someone pointed out that the vast majority are fine and it is always just a minority they are falling over themselves to say 'it is always a few bad apples' etc.
But the default position was (and always is) 'all', 'totally', 'never'.
Bloody curtain twitching NIMBYs never really went away, did they....
Went out on the Arkose round some local back lanes yesterday, nice enough spin but it did remind me why I sold my Tarmac! I'm fortunate enough to live in the sticks, plenty of back roads and lonnings to explore.
Only ten minutes from the beach too so will head down on the fat bike when the tides/winds are right.
As soon as someone pointed out that the vast majority are fine and it is always just a minority they are falling over themselves to say ‘it is always a few bad apples’ etc.
Reply with dog walkers always leave dogcrap everywhere, and they soon notice that tarring everyone with the same brush isn't that nice when it's coming at you.
I always wondered why people enthusiastically volunteered to inform for the Stasi and stuff like that.
These rules are reasonable given the Covid-19 situation. You're like some adolescent with a need to defy-refuse.
My local facebook group in fantastic at the moment, not sure where these people are normally but they are out in force.
Daily conversations along these lines:
Person 1 - "I've just seen 3 separate families out walking their dogs in the field, when will people start to take this seriously"
Person 2 - "As long as they are keeping their distance and going out once per day, that is fine"
Person 1 - "Copy and paste link to number of deaths in Italy, we should all be indoors, my cousins brothers friend has mild asthma so I haven't opened the window in 3 weeks"
Person 3 - "I am a key worker (works in security for Sainsburys) and you should all stay at home.
And then they all chime in with anecdotes. I had a cold in 2012 and am vulnerable so I have been self isolating. Well, except for when I pick up my takeaway from the pub, or when my husband goes to work or when I went to get more paint from B&Q...but other than that, I have been home and you shouldn't be walking your dog.
Give it an hour and then there is another post. I cant stop watching, it is passing the time brilliantly
I always wondered why people enthusiastically volunteered to inform for the Stasi and stuff like that.
I can't remember if we've already reached Goodwins Law, surely it's not taken 29 pages?
OK I forgot sorry Covid trumps all and justifies everything.
They’re both 35-40kg each and I can’t control them both on leads at the same time, because I’m only 55kg myself.
So I have to go out for 2 walks morning and evening.
They’re only lead walks with the dogs, so I also go out for exercise myself because my garden’s not big enough to exercise in
That has to be a troll.....
I can’t remember if we’ve already reached Goodwins Law, surely it’s not taken 29 pages?
If that was directed at me it's Godwin's Law and the Stasi had nowt to do with the Nazis. It's a reference to their zeal for surveillance and turning citizens on each other.
Sometimes not. You do see the oddest things at times.
Many, many years ago, I think around 1981, I was on my first climbing trip to Scotland. We were camping by the river near the Clachaig as you were allowed to do so then and a Volvo estate pulls up. A big bloke gets out from the driver's side and his daughter, probably about 12, gets out of the passenger door. The bloke goes to the back of the car and gets the dogs out. Two massive Irish Wolfhounds. Walks over to his daughter and says "Hold them while I put the tent up". Now these dogs would have looked her in the eye had they not been scanning the surrounding area for something to chase. Her chances of holding them would have been nil.
from other responses I don't think so....... if it is it's brilliantly crafted.
🤦♀️
From yesterday's ride, I've now got the local RSPB to admit the signs they've put, restricting access to the forest, are wrong. I'm betting that actually changing them will be considered unnecessary work... 😊
Well done scotroutes, I bet you're dead chuffed with yourself?
What are you actually demanding?
vegetable rights and peace
What are you actually demanding?
I'd imagine that organisations follow the law?
But not you?
Well done scotroutes, I bet you’re dead chuffed with yourself?
Choughed, more like.
Aye, roll out the bunting.