[Closed] Layforward seat post.. Thomson?

A guy on here posted a pic up of his bike with it mounted that way recently, looked like it worked fine.

That pic was on a Maverick. Anything would look fine on one of them 🙂

I've seen photos of Time Triallers using a back-to-front Thomson to get the saddle forward, so it should work fine.

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They don't adjust as much in reverse, you may have triuble getting the nose low enough. Whether it would be enough, I don't know and I don't have one anymore to check, sorry

Thanks chaps, confident now to hunt for a 410mm, 27.2mm layback thomson 2nd hand to try.

Andy

just been sick

C'est moi...

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Did this mainly to get the correct saddle angle, rather than get it far enough forward, as an inline Thomson with the Spesh saddle resulted in the saddle nose pointing skyward even at the extreme of adjustment due to the slack seat tube.

I think the Maverick is about the only bike where that looks ok mboy 🙂

slightly better, still making me queasy.

Here's another one (not mine)...

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Just for tracknicko of course... 😉

It does look almost meant-to-be on the Maverick.

At vast expense you could go for a carbon profile design fast forward seatpost. It might also come in alloy for a more sensible price, but the thomson one is sold as reversible. You could try some of the roadie or triathlon forums if you are looking for a second hand one.

what did the Maverick's designers intend someone to do if not use a thomson? 😕

wheelies.

exactly. very odd.

Maverick seat tubes are in reality nothing like as slack as they look. The seat tube starts a long way forward of "normal", so with the saddle at normal pedalling height it's got an equivalent of approximately 71/72 degree seat angle surprisingly!

Running a layback Thomson back to front on one is to tackle the seat angle issue. Saddles like old Flites mount on an inline Thomson easily because of the relaxed angle of the saddle rails on them. I remember when I used to run a Flite, it was a nightmare keeping it still as it would constantly slide backwards cos of the saddle rail angle! The Specialized saddles have totally flat rail angle, but if you try to run that on an inline Thomson on a Maverick, the nose points skywards... Ergo the layback run back to front.

In a similar vein Ive recently turned around a Bontrager Race X Lite ACC post, it has a clamp similar to a crank brothers joplin where the clamp could be done up in any angle

Im only one ride in, so no idea how the layup will deal with it beinbg used backwards? (only a 5mm setback version though). On a Sanderson with 120mm forks, so the seat angle is pretty slack. Reversed seatpost should give a slightly better seat angle and bring down the long ETT a touch

Actually, I've decided instead to buy a new frame and spend a few hours transferring all the rest of the kit to it.

I'll buy some gold jockey wheels too.

yer maverick looks great - jealous of your DUC32s. weird thing is i cant even see need for that curvy seat tube. they could have gone straight up (from that point forward of the bb) and got a normal seat angle and the rear triangle would still clear it? just with slightly longer top shock mount.

Those Mavericks look great. Though I hope there's a snake charmer just out of shot.

In a similar vein Ive recently turned around a Bontrager Race X Lite ACC post, it has a clamp similar to a crank brothers joplin where the clamp could be done up in any angle

It's not just similar, it's the same. Maverick licensed the clamp off Bontrager when they designed the Speedball iirc, which later Crank Bros bought off them and rebadged the Joplin.

On a Sanderson with 120mm forks, so the seat angle is pretty slack.

Those Sanderson's are oddly slack aren't they! I liked the look of them years ago, was all set to buy one, then had a sit on one in a shop with 120mm Manitou's on it (which were actually shorter than the forks I had at the time to stick on it) and it felt way too slack. Didn't buy in the end.

yer maverick looks great - jealous of your DUC32s.

Cheers, though not many people are jealous of it or think it looks great! The DUC's tend to crop up quite frequently on ebay by the way, don't fetch much money either. Last pair I had before these I think I sold for £180, and the market has definitely dropped since.

Hear what you're saying about the design not requiring such a bent seat tube, as long as it had a slightly larger top shock mount, but in a way I think that would spoil the "Maverickness" about it, certainly though it may look less radical it would have a different eyesore in a more prominent top shock mount. I'm just glad they eventually steepened the seat angle for the Durance from the ML7's, as the ML7's were quite slack.

no i bet it rides great. i have an SC32 and only thing i don't like about that is the flex.
shame maverick went bust.. anyway we're going OT :p

forward layback clearly works as long as there's enough tilt adjust.

My sanderson was an ebay buy, so no biggie, but wasnt quite what I was after, even with a 100mm fork. Looking at the sanderson site, they dont publish the seat angle, and the pics they use are '3D'. Maybe it really is quite slack and blaming climbing on the bike isnt entirely unjustified ..
Then again maybe my saddle up descending isnt all I thought it was either

I used to use a Thomson post back to front when racing tri. No problems at all,other than the aesthetics