[Closed] Knocked off on cycle path by dog - injured. What to do?

The SOAC has this to say on the matter

Recreation areas and public places:
avoid causing concern to others by keeping your dog [b]close at heel or on a short lead[/b].

[quote=rene59 ]The hypocrisy of some cyclists really makes me laugh. Some really do think they can do no wrong, are always correct and should never be held accountable for their actions.

Go on then - with an assertion like that I'm sure you can find an example to prove your point...

Highway Code Rule 56

"Do not let a dog out on the road on its own. Keep it on a short lead when walking on the pavement, road or path shared with cyclists or horse riders."

https://www.gov.uk/rules-about-animals-47-to-58/other-animals-56-to-58

This is a recommendation, not a legal requirement.

However the dog owner is negligent in allowing the dog off it's lead on a shared path.

One of the biggest hazards on urban shared paths is dog's off leads.

Are you too stupid or selfish to realise that you can do something about that? My sympathies are with Martin and the dog.

Don't you know? Dogs are great! They're brilliant! They're so adorable, and loyal and stuff! Everyone loves dogs, surely? They're mans best friend. They're just great!! You can't curtail their creativity by keeping them on a lead, or by not letting them jump up at people and bark and shite everywhere, because... well... dogs are great! They're brilliant! etc, etc, etc.....

Under absolutely no circumstances should they all be rounded up and shot! Lets just make that clear!

I'll call the police station later to find out if they found the dog/see how he/she is.

No helmet, bike, non permanent injury matters if a dog has died through the owners negligence. I know he'll be feeling bad vibes towards me too but if he's got any decency in him, he will know it wasn't intended. I got the impression of this as he was asking if I wanted to go to hospital. Like said earlier, he would have been upset and confused. He is worried for his dog and also for me. I was worried for the dog too, he knew that. It's a shame the dog has probably got injured as it was just doing it's thing :O/

rene59 » The hypocrisy of some cyclists really makes me laugh. Some really do think they can do no wrong, are always correct and should never be held accountable for their actions.

Go on then - with an assertion like that I'm sure you can find an example to prove your point...

Well I could, yes, but as I said some really think they can do no wrong and are always correct so I would be massively wasting my time.

Isnt the dog only deemed to be under control if it is on a lead? i know that insurers will only pay out if it was on a lead at the time of an accident!

This isn't true

Very depressing reading this thread ... Why are some people always looking to put all the blame on to others?

Take the hit. You got up and walked away ... you even happen to have a pretty good funny story to tell about it too.

[quote=seanbolton ]One of the biggest hazards on urban shared paths is dog's off leads.

Almost, but not quite as bad as grocers' apostrophes 😉

Some really do think they can do no wrong, are always correct and should never be held accountable for their actions.

[quote=rene59 ]Well I could, yes, but as I said some really think they can do no wrong and are always correct so I would be massively wasting my time.

Sounds like a bit of a circular argument. But I'll take that as a no, you can't actually find such an example, hence your assertion is a load of bollocks. Feel free to prove me wrong...

a black dog

Racist!

Given there are no witnesses to the accident, so it's your word against his, and you've already admitted to being unsighted by his lights immediately prior to passing him, you'll struggle to get anywhere with a compensation claim via insurance or the small claims court.

ditch_jockey - Member
Given there are no witnesses to the accident, so it's your word against his, and you've already admitted to being unsighted by his lights immediately prior to passing him, you'll struggle to get anywhere with a compensation claim via insurance or the small claims court.

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I am increasingly reminded of this chap reading the forum of late.

Ill declare one thing first. My other half screws dogs (and other things) back together.

Poor choice of place to put the parentheses, you don't want people pausing there, really, or they may end up with an ill informed view of your OH.

Considering what they get brought in for if a dog bounces off anythings its bloody lucky. The vet bills for stuff like this are generally large (5k as a starting point) so please don't go thinking that animals will learn or whatever from being hit by a bike.

What? So because vet bills are expensive, we shouldn't assume that a dog will learn from being hit?

[url= http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Torquay-man-prosecuted-walking-dog-lead/story-25924057-detail/story.html ]Just seen this in the local rag[/url]

Self portrait, rene?

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/wirral-dog-accident-cyclist-may-7577154

and since then quite a few dog walkers seemto have fitted their dogs with reflective collars and flasding led lights when out in the dark

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6375616/Hotel-owner-faces-ruin-after-customer-hit-by-dog.html

also a freind who had just took early retirement was recently hit by an uncontrolled dog, the idiot owner refused to help or call an ambulance and just walked off, result broken leg, 3 days in hospital and 12 weeks recovery so far.

[quote=project > http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/wirral-dog-accident-cyclist-may-7577154

Headline appears to be totally wrong for that story!

I’m in the accidents happen category.

But also learn from stuff category,

I'm guessing animal owner won’t be riding with an animal (especially at night) having realized what harm can come to his animal though inability to control the animal when a bike/ runner /car/space hopper is approaching.

And I would imagine OP will s**t himself and slow down anytime he can’t see a full 20 yards ahead.

I personally will substitute the word "animal" for "child who has just learned to ride"

I’m almost certain we will all revert to our previous behaviours before too long, because lets face it bikes are fun!

Hope you get better soon OP

Looks like he's nursing a boner in that pic? Maybe the dog was attracted to that 😆

Mooman wrote:

mooman - Member
Very depressing reading this thread ... Why are some people always looking to put all the blame on to others?

Take the hit. You got up and walked away ... you even happen to have a pretty good funny story to tell about it too.

A dog is injured or dead, I'm hurt. Shouldn't you be over at Liveleek?

My boss called, he said something along the lines of 'I take it this didn't happen on *Dog Dodgers descent then?!'

*A part of the Strathpuffer course!

What a joke, generation of mommy's boys, so you fell over big deal. No broken bones, no time off work. 3 god damn pages of this tripe.
You continued to go forward though you admit you couldn't see and the dog was off the lead, look where your going or stop if you can't see.

Custard Cream anyone?

Was the other cyclist actually in control of his dog? Nope, thought not. Spot the dog owners in this thread!

Cyclist Wins Compensation From Dog Owner
24-Nov
A cyclist has been awarded £14,000 in compensation after he was injured when a dog ran under the wheel of his bicycle.

Ken MacLennan, 65, was cycling though a park when a spaniel that had been let off its lead ran into his path. Mr MacLennan was thrown over the handlebars and suffered a fractured pelvis.

After the accident, Mr MacLennan was in hospital for a month and was forced to use crutches for a further three months. In total he had to have six months off work and was unable to cycle, walk or drive without experiencing pain. It is unlikely that he will ever recover fully from the injury he sustained.

Pet owners have a legal responsibility to safeguard others from the potential dangers posed by their animals. If pets cause an accident, their owners may be liable for any resulting damages.

If you have been injured by an animal as a result of the owner’s failure to control it, you could be entitled to compensation.

Admittedly from what looks like an ambulance chasing website.

Welcome pitch pro ....the worlds slowest troll... I guess he has just got up given its just past 3 pm

C-G I dont think it is a dog owner v non dog owner thing but idiots v not idiots.

*puts flameproof suit on*
Dogs are horrible animals that poo everywhere, bark at and chase cyclists, and like humping things. All dog owners should be forced to give up their dogs and get a cat, much more relaxing. Discuss.

P.s. some of my best friends own dogs, but still, meh.

2011pitchpro gets it, I despair at the direction this country is headed....

...."I'm hurt, waaaah, who can I blame?"....

Some people on STW would be better off sat safely at home wrapped in cotton wool instead of venturing out into the big wide world....the frightening thought is that these people will breed leading to an even more spineless generation of incompetents.

(Cats are horrible creatures and their owners shouldn't be trusted, if everybody grew up with a dog in the family the world would be a better place)

Pretty sure some on STW would be better of just satying inside and shouting their hate filled Bollocks safe from the actual consequences of saying it to peoples faces...oh the Irony that its keyboard warriors calling every one else softies and spineless.

You are so brave and virile I am getting dizzy from your testosterone and I guess if we met [ a boy can dream eh] I would get pregnant just from your awesomeness

Its such a shame you did not get enough cuddles as a child

Christ trolling it so easy WTF is the point ?

What a joke, generation of mommy's boys, so you fell over big deal. No broken bones, no time off work.

You must be drunk,surely? :O)
I didn't fall over. It is a deal. Does a fracture or broken bone mean it's so much worse than a swollen hand that has no grip or carrying capabilities? I've broken the same hand before and this, although shows no fractures, is far more of a pain in the ass. The swelling is like I've had implants. Like it's filled with jelly. I do have time off work. I can't use the hand, it's quiet at work and my boss said to take a few days off. I'm next to useless with my dominant hand today. Hopefully when he goes on holiday for 2 weeks I'll be able to do stuff as there's only 2 or 3 of us. I will be taking notes and answering the phone and that's about all I could do right now.

I struggle with long sentences. Has the dog been found yet?
Just as a discussion point, substitute dog with child. Who is to blame then? I always maintain that if you can't stop in the distance you can see ahead then you are going too fast.
I would slow down to walking pace if I saw someone coming the other way, purely out of shock and to have a chat, it never happens 🙂

Welcome pitch pro ....the worlds slowest troll... I guess he has just got up given its just past 3 pm Perhaps he justy like the number 3 Page 3 at 3 pm ?

C-G I dont think it is a dog owner v non dog owner thing but idiots v not idiots.

JY, why is it everytime anyone writes something on here that you disagree with they are either an idiot or a troll? Im genuinely interested ....

Ex dog owner here, I used to work in boarding kennels too. Find myself dismayed at the lack of responsibility that many dog owners exhibit, they fail to realise that training is on-going and not just a puppy class. As someone who only rides on their own I don't see why I should be subjected to someone's stupid dog making a nuisance of itself. Thank goodness for my large feet!

JY you're trolling and I'm not, that's the difference!

Don't like my views?....there is plenty of bollocks on here I don't like, such is life eh?...all you can do is try to avoid people with opposing views in real life then you don't have to be offended in a face to face situation by the whining simpering garbage that spews forth from their stupid fat faces.

(as others have said, you write off opposing views as trolling as it is your defence mechanism that allows you to feel more comfortable about the world, its what children do)

Trolls same old shit say something outrageous insist you mean it etc
Still you seem lovely with it

Anyway I have fed you enough return to the bridge

EDIT: Hahah not even a good one you had to go back to put in the goad in brackets.

That did make me laugh you are just so needing of attention and I am the child

Bless

[quote=devs ]Just as a discussion point, substitute dog with child.

"I was riding on a path that's used for walking and cycling last night. It was dark, I had my lights on and a cyclist was was approaching me with lights on too. We pass each other and his child, off a lead, runs from behind the bike"

I'm not sure it really works.

Two cyclists pass each other, how many would slow to a stop from 10mph knowing that the light ahead is another cyclist? You ride past. No child ran out, if it did, it doesn't have to be on a lead. The dog does. It's a dog, there's no point with 'what if's'

My brother said that if a dog ran out in front of me in the car and I swerved and crashed and caused injury to myself, then it would be a whole different matter. Usual just a cyclist attitude, but put a motorcycle or car into it all and it's a different matter. I could see the path ahead although his light was bright,I was focussed on the path, just like we do when riding motorbikes or driving cars, you soon learn after passing your test to not gaze into lights and look where you're going. The path was clear, a lit rider was approaching but I kept my eyes on the path. The path was clear, I had approx 1500 lumens on the third setting aiming (after considerately dipping it well in advance as to not blind him) to see ahead.

A dog ran out and I hit it. Regardless of dog colour or not, it ran straight across me. That's the last time I'm explaining this bit. If nobody can get it, then so be it.

I would get some proper legal advice, Leigh Day are the BC lawyers IIRC

Getting an ID for the dog owner is probably the biggest issue

Ignore the Internet trolling above

Can't believe the vitriol that this has resorted to!

Dogs should be kept under control in public places by law, not necessarily on a lead. The fact that the dog appears to have run in front of the op suggests to me it wasn't under control.

However, you shouldn't ride so fast that you can't stop in the distance that you can see to be safe. If you can't see, you slow down or stop. Oncoming riders are a pain on my commute in winter, but if I'm dazzled I brake.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Hope the op gets better soon.

[quote=deviant ]2011pitchpro gets it, I despair at the direction this country is headed....

Kids today don't know they're born.
It wasn't like this in my day.
...

However, you shouldn't ride so fast that you can't stop in the distance that you can see to be safe. If you can't see, you slow down or stop. Oncoming riders are a pain on my commute in winter, but if I'm dazzled I brake.

Why not call a no win no fee solicitor. Get as much cash as you can. You might even get a new bike.
There's no wonder our premiums are so bloody high to cover people who claim on this accident, I repeat accident with both parties partly to blame.