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[Closed] Jones: Worth selling rest of your bikes for?

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The elephant in the room here is how ugly those things are. Makes an Orange 5 look sophisticated.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 10:20 am
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Crikey. This forum is as respectful as ever.
Race you to the bottom of the [s]hill[/s] barrel.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 10:47 am
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Ale is shit, Jones are great.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 10:48 am
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No - I wouldn't have to. Jones are only as expensive as one of my bikes - not the lot! :p

Having said that I think I'll stick with what I've got - they're nicer/better than a Jones (IMO).


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 10:53 am
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brainwashing

That explains why it wouldn't work on you then.

You'd need to grow a brain first for it to be washed. 😛

It's just a bike nothing more nothing less.
It's better at some things than some of my other bikes and worse at some things than some of my other bikes.

It doesn't cause me to pass judgment on what someone else might be riding on a particular day though...


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 11:02 am
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This is all too sensible... so I'm going to bring down the tone...

Yes buy one... but only if you have an immense desire to look like a prize tit!


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 12:31 pm
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The original question is almost offensive and is pretty much the same as 'are you stupid'?

Nope it's not the question that's offensive.

If you don't want to talk about this then leave the thread alone and go find another that is about what you want to talk about.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 1:00 pm
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I'd not heard of Jones before this thread so I went to look at their website.

I saw pictures of lots of bikes I wouldn't want to own - so yes, this does seem to kill lots of birds with one stone.

I appreciate beauty is in the eye of the beholder but they do look a bit like the inbred offspring of a delivery boys bike and a vintage tractor.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 1:06 pm
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i'm with DrRS**** they don't look pretty, functional or well engineered to me, just some overpriced hipster shopping bike.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 1:18 pm
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I saw pictures of lots of bikes I wouldn't want to own - so yes, this does seem to kill lots of birds with one stone.

Now that, by contrast with some other posters, is quite witty!

I don't disagree on the looks but I'd like to try one. Most FS bikes and a lot of HTs are also pretty ugly IMO.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 1:21 pm
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I don't really know why people call them ugly.
For me it looks like Form Follows Function, and in that sense it's no more ugly than a boneshaker, a penny farthing, or most bikes for that matter.

I've never ridden one, but I would really like to (although I wouldn't really think I'd ridden the real thing unless it was a Ti Spaceframe).


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 1:22 pm
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I'd love to have a go on one to see if they live up to the hype but I can't honestly see it being as quick overall than my Five or being that much better than my singlespeed Curtis?


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 3:10 pm
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No. I think they're ugly, and I love my bouncy bike way too much.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 3:19 pm
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Oh, and there is the ugly problem. And the fact that I'd be selling my bikes with gears and bouncy forks and proper bars etc and ending up with one bike with 1 (probably) gear, rigid forks and some kind of oddball bars. I'd also have to think about my personal life in that my beard length would need to be massively increased from 'fashionably scruffy' to 'old testament'.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 3:23 pm
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I must be imagining things when I change gear on mine 😉

They're actually rather beautiful in the flesh.

Rocks you say? Gnar?

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Posted : 26/02/2013 4:15 pm
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I would love to go for a ride with jeff on some fast technically demanding singletrack just to see how quickly he can go. Those steep rock rolls aren't that impressive imo as i find the lack of sus (particularly front) helps since the bike doesn't wallow all the over place. The jump however.....

Different looking bikes for sure but no worse than a lot of full sus frames and if they ride well then who cares. Besides i think they look quite cool and would like to have a go on one to see if it works for my style of riding.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 4:37 pm
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if I sold all my wordly goods I wouldn't be able to buy one

good job they look awful 😉


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 4:44 pm
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Surely a bike is for riding first and foremost- alot of people seem to be suggesting they wouldnt like to own one because of what they look like on a photo
I havent got one but have ridden several and the format works extremely well- would I like one yes- is it a magic bullet- probably not bu would actually cover the majority of my riding ( would need two front wheel builds tho!)
And they look great in the flesh in a strange type of way
And £800 aint super expensive for a f&f option is it?


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 4:52 pm
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Different looking bikes for sure but no worse than a lot of full sus frames and if they ride well then who cares. Besides i think they look quite cool and would like to have a go on one to see if it works for my style of riding.

@gotama Biff the uk importer has offered to bring up a demo or 2 to our neck of the woods, you in?


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 4:56 pm
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futon river crossing's pictures have just reminded me: The other reason I couldn't get one is my lack of dodgy facial hair...


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 4:57 pm
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A mate of mine had a shot of one at Laggan and said it was just like riding a normal rigid bike, so no, I wouldn't have one.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 4:58 pm
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Matt - I was speaking to Biff about a demo but then shelved it for a couple of reasons as I didn't want to waste his time. However if he is coming up to let you have a go anyway then if you could keep me in the loop when you've sorted a date that would be great. You've got my email i think. By the way, Cycleworks have a demo day at holmbury on the 10th march if you're still looking to scratch that other itch


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 5:03 pm
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Lance was right on one thing, it's not about the bike - it's not the Jones that's letting him do that in those pics it's his skill. After watching Martyn Ashton's video with stunts on road bikes do you think people sold their jump bike fleet to buy one because he did things on it they couldn't do on a jump bike?


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 5:05 pm
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Each to their own,but I wouldn't swop my 25 yr old wheelbarrow for one.....


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 5:23 pm
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Gotama, nothing arranged, just a notional plan, he seems cool with coming. Yeah will let you know. C U @ Cycleworks maybe, I know about that.

FizzyWuzzy very valid point of view!


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 5:24 pm
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i'm with DrRS**** they don't look pretty, functional or well engineered to me, just some overpriced hipster shopping bike.

Do enlighten me please.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 5:38 pm
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I bought one, couldnt afford to finish it due to baby arrival, sold it on, now Sheldon owns it, regretted it ever since...... I dont actually have any passion for riding at the moment, but if it ever comes back, I will get a Jones to see what I missed out on.........


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 5:38 pm
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Anything that polarises opinion is more interesting than the middle of the road, looks like Jeff's bikes score well there.

I should've clarified, when I said I'be happy on a Jones for all my riding - that's based on what I enjoy riding the most. The most fun bike. Not always the fastest or easiest to keep up with a group at all times on, sometimes may well be the fastest but that's not the point. Quite often a very adaptable, wide ranging bike. It's just what I appreciate. Function first.

And I love rocky descents ) Took it to spain and the alps last year. Not my usual terrain but copes fine on group rides with others on the different bikes that they like.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 9:16 pm
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I wouldn't want one. They turn you into a bell end and are rubbish on roots. My evidence isn't very scientific just based on one shouty bloke at SSUK a few years ago but I believe that is all the evidence that is required.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 9:26 pm
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Each to their own,but I wouldn't swop my 25 yr old wheelbarrow for one.....

You might be faster on your old wheelbarrow than on your all singing all dancing full susser.

Well you couldn't be much slower could you Eamon. 😮


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 9:36 pm
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In many respects, I think it's great that Mr Jones is thinking outside the box and it's nice to see innovation, but the mere suggestion of swapping my exotic hareem of talented beauties for a lifetime of commitment to a misshapen beast intent on snobbish individuality, who inevitably has a beard tucked away somewhere is just silliness.

This is all speculation~ perhaps if I swung a leg over one, and got the truss damp, my affections would get the better of me.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 9:41 pm
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Crikey. This forum is as respectful as ever.
Race you to the bottom of the hill barrel.

about as respectful as people who take money for fanzines they never actually produce i guess?


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 9:43 pm
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You might be faster on your old wheelbarrow than on your all singing all dancing full susser.Well you couldn't be much slower could you Eamon. 

One of several....;-)


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 10:22 pm
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Those pics show me nothing that couldn't be ridden easier, faster or more comfortably on a full sus. Oh, and cheaper on a full sus.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 10:24 pm
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[b]OFF TOPIC[/b]

[i]about as respectful as people who take money for fanzines they never actually produce i guess?[/i]

Ouch. Del, can't find any info in your profile to contact you directly or any recent emails from you in my biff@yesweareontheweb.com account relating to your Outcast sub so have to [i]say hello[/i] here. I am doing issue #25. The subscription is '£10 for four issues in as long as it takes us to do them' but if that's a problem for you do please email me and i'll refund you for any outstanding issues. I've got all [b]The Outcast[/b] subscriber details on my old G4 so nothing lost, nothing stolen. It's been said there never have been any outstanding issues.

Let's talk. Happy to do all my laundry in public.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 10:43 pm
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Easier? Faster? More comfortable?
Misses the point - [b]in my opinion[/b].

I respect other peoples' choices.
Not at all surprised by the bigotry.
Just a shame it stretches to [b]push bikes[/b].


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 10:52 pm
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One of several

Wheel barrows? 😆


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 10:56 pm
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Misses the point - in my opinion.

I really want a go on one because I need to see what the point is in spending more money on something slower, more uncomfortable and less easy to ride.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 11:06 pm
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you do get a lot of (sometimes maybe un-wanted) attention on a Jones, I rode most of the K100 with Biff, and he was constantly asked about his, and his answer summed it enough for ME to want one,if I remember correctly, it was " makes me smile like a new bike does, EVERY time I ride it..." like I said before, I dont have the passion for Bikes at the mo, but when it comes back it will be on a Jones.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 11:33 pm
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Easier? Faster? More comfortable?
Misses the point - in my opinion.

So it's not about how it rides, it's more of a lifestyle/fashion thing?

Not at all surprised by the bigotry.

The bigotry of snobby niche purists who look down on people for riding mainstream brands?


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 11:35 pm
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I see no looking down on anyone.

Ride what ever you want no one cares.


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 11:42 pm
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DBW, I could justify a steel jones a lot more easily than most sussers that cost a fair bit more, only a personal opinion tho and it's my money. But really who cares, spending money on anything like this could be seen as daft, it's a bike for grown men riding around in the mud, pointless unless it makes you happy.

So it's not about how it rides, it's more of a lifestyle/fashion thing
You've not seen me on or off a bike huh ) fashion and lifestyle passed me by, but I do recognise that pretty much nothing in MTB is 'fashionable'.. or nothing in cycling for that matter?


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 11:42 pm
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Biff nxt issue ready for ssUK's or ssEuros ? 😉


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 11:46 pm
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[i]The bigotry of snobby niche purists who look down on people for riding mainstream brands?[/i]

Sorry, how does "[b]I respect other peoples' choices[/b]" read to you?

[i]So it's not about how it rides, it's more of a lifestyle/fashion thing?[/i]

Not at all, but getting to the bottom of the hill as quickly and easily as possible isn't of paramount importance to me and my idea of fun might not tally with yours. I find a Jones very comfortable, a great ride. My cycling isn't about speed and **** all to do with fashion or lifestyle (whatever that is). I've had a Jones for nine years - so I must be out of fashion now surely?


 
Posted : 26/02/2013 11:51 pm
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[b]Keef[/b] - next issue before the end of March.


 
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