[Closed] Is this right? (LBS-installed Hope headset)

As an aside, what's the innertube on the seatpost?

I guess it's some form of mudguard for the Reverb.

It seems odd that you would slide the saddle back a bit on the rails AND have your bars so high.

You could lose 1/2kg* of steerer and spacers there!

*exageration

I guess it's some form of mudguard for the Reverb.

Correct. It does a pretty good job as it sits clear of the bit where the seal is, so doesn't just funnel grime down onto it.

As for the 'holy god' comments, well, up yours. I like [u]riding[/u] it, not looking at it, and I seem to pass a reasonable amount of full sussers on rocky stuff in the Peaks, so it can't be that bad.

Thanks for all the constructive comments.

OP I'm being constructive here:

Those bars look like they are rotated forward quite a lot and your brakes and shifters quite vertical. I would try dropping the bars 20mm, rotating them back a bit and getting your controls a bit more horizontal to drop your wrists.

Try it and see how you go.

I seem to pass a reasonable amount of full sussers on rocky stuff in the Peaks

You iz teh AWSUMZ.
Try passing all of them to be a true Trailboss ™.

More power to Dannyh.

It's a weapon, not an ornament.

Nicely said Danny!
BTW - your original question...I would say that's deffo NOT right as you suggest yourself.
That LBS - is it the one in the town I live in, opposite the chippy? (without naming names) 😉

Sometimes there are honestly no words that quite seem appropriate.

Genuine lol at the pictures of the bike. Amazeballs.

you cant tell if they are lined up or not as you can only see one cup.

two things to line up - cups with each other (agree we can't see that), and cups with head tube logos. Straight assuming central logo/badge, or aligned appropriately if not.

Has Jamie altered those pictures for a laugh?

Danny, nice bike matey 🙂
What LBS was it out of interest?

Why do all your really long hoses and cables go down the same side?

[i]Shudders[/i]

Why do all your really long hoses and cables go down the same side?

Because that's where I put them.

Amazeballs.

Thanks (although I don't think that was your sentiment).

You iz teh AWSUMZ.
Try passing all of them to be a true Trailboss ™.

See you next Tuesday(?)

WARNING: Never use more than 30 mm of height of steerer stem spacers under the steerer stem, as this condition can cause the steerer tube to fail, causing a loss of control resulting in SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH.

http://www.ridefox.com/help.php?m=bike&id=59#installingyourfork

Only 10mm out mind.

See you next Tuesday

Wednesdays are better for me. 8)

Seriously.
Your LBS missed a seal off your headset.
Not great but a simple mistake.
Then you post a pictures of the bike.
Maybe they lost the seal when they were rolling around laughing at it. 😆

modern hope headsets have 3 at 90 degrees to each other

You mean 3 at 120 degrees so they are on each third?

Errrr... Ummmm.... Well... Errrr.... (raised eyebrows wince)
Some obvious stw code of practice errors but I guess it's your bike and if it works for you.
At least shorten the cables before you lassoo some innocent passer by.

Jesus Christ. Note to self, stop coming on singletrack when on a chemical come down.

MATE. WTAF.

I think people are being a little bit harsh here. It's the guys pride and joy. If there is anything dangerous, then yeah point it out, but it's not [i]that bad.[/i]

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Agreed, taking the piss out of someone's bike isn't really on and isn't helping him at all.

I'm impressed that the valves don't even line up with the rim stickers, let alone the tyre logo's.

Top work.

Spacers are personal choice though.

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Those bars look like they are rotated forward quite a lot and your brakes and shifters quite vertical. I would try dropping the bars 20mm, rotating them back a bit and getting your controls a bit more horizontal to drop your wrists.

I have tried this, but I quite like riding elbows out and 'squared up', especially when descending.

Agreed, taking the piss out of someone's bike isn't really on and isn't helping him at all.

Thanks, I appreciate the sentiment, but it's alright, I can take it. If I was to start getting all offended by people taking the piss out of what is essentially a toy, then I think I would be losing a bit of perspective.

Sometimes there are honestly no words that quite seem appropriate.

Easy solution, then. Don't use any.

Is that a smile on the T Rex's face, though?

Good on him, riding his bike rather than fretting about what it looks like.

He should wear a helmet, mind.

I quite like riding elbows out and 'squared up

of course i do andy - proof that 3 nights on 3hrs intermittent sleep pickles your brain 😀

It isn't that bad and probably rides ok. Being over defensive to a bit of ribbing probably didn't help. This is STW where a bike is judged on valve/ tyre/ rim alignment, lawn condition and state of wooden surfaces visible in the pic after all!

The issue with the bike is more that the steerer length out of the frame is probably more than a fork manufacturer would recommend so a bigger frame/ frame with different geo would probably suit the OP better while also probably being safer and more fun to ride too. That was the carefully hidden constructive input of the thread. Even Brant commented on the fit and set up and he presumably had a hand designing the thing.

Trail boss - pmsl

Well, I've dropped the stack height under the stem by 10mm as someone helpfully (not sarcastic) pointed out that this could be dangerous. I've genuinely learnt something there, so cheers for that.

Stack of 5mm spacers? I'd argue that this is the best option for maximising the options when it comes to bar height, so that's why I did it.

Orange mudguard? Celebrations box lids in red aren't quite big enough, but Jacob's biscuits for cheese are.

Inner tube reverb mudguard? Seems to work, don't want to spend any more time than absolutely necessary servicing a reverb.

Long hoses? Can't be arsed with the faff of cutting, bleeding and reconnecting. When it comes time to service the reverb I probably will lop a bit off, but not until.

Tyre logos don't line up with rim stickers? I don't give a shit.

Rim logos don't line up with valves? Merlin built the wheels are they are absolutely brilliant. Otherwise, I don't give a shit.

Shed needs creosote? I'll get round to that, eventually.

Grass needs trimming? Too busy riding my bike.

Seat back on rails? Don't really know, but it feels comfy to me, no knee or back pain etc.

I've enjoyed this thread (honestly) and I've learned something genuinely useful in the process. A win-win.

Just a question, did you supply the headset to the LBS? Are you positive the seal was on the headset if you supplied it, whilst I think maybe they should have pointed out that it was missing, if they don't normally fit Hope headsets they may not know it's missing. They might help you sort it out if this is the case, if you go in like US army you might not get much help.

😆

A simply excellent bedtime read.

Cheers Danny

Did you know that you can achieve the same bar position like this.
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Superficial - do you really have nothing better to do than Photoshop Danny's pic to get yourself a few back-slaps off your fellow STWers?

You could have at least Photo shopped the logos in line.. or maybe even made the steerer comedy long.. Oh Wait

It's a weapon, not an ornament.

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STW thread of the year for me so far 😀

I hope you manage to get the headset sorted DannyH, and certainly the head-doctor returned; an LBS keeping parts from components supplied by the customer is very bad form IMO.

I learned 4 useful things on this thread.

1: Too many spacers under the stem puts too much load on the steerer tube (which makes sense).

2: Angling the levers down can put them in an easier position to reach when you've got your elbows out (which also makes sense - at least, when I move my elbows out the tops of my hands tend to rotate down).

3: Doing stuff yourself is always best (but I knew this anyway).

4: Some people on STW are complete bell ends. Taking the piss out of people's grass / fence / shed / valve stem - tyre logo alignment is expected, and I'm not shy when it comes to dishing it out. But all the "arrggh my eyes, this bike is a crime against humanity" shit is disappointing and in clear violation of the "try not to be a dick" rule. We're all free to ride what we like without the ****ing STW trail-centre-only weekend-warrior hipster crowd bellyaching that they don't like how someone's bike look. Nobs.

It seems odd that you would slide the saddle back a bit on the rails AND have your bars so high

*high fives stupid amount of spacers but not giving a toss buddy*

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Blimey, some people have been busy in here..........

Update - LBS have given me back the bits they didn't use, but no top seal. I have rang Hope and they are going to sort me out with a seal in the next few days, so big thanks to them. LBS may or may not be in the black book.

My answers to the bike critics out there remain the same(!)

The most worrying thing about this thread is that mr belowski is wading in on my side - he normally just takes the piss vehemently, so I guess 'dissing' another man's ride can unite as well as divide.......

As for the 'try not to be dick rule' - well I haven't seen much evidence of that ever being obeyed on STW by some folk.

I think your bike may look a little 'special', but I respect your right to ride what the hell you like without being ridiculed for it by a load of keyboard warriors on the interwebz.

If the seal wasn't there, surely a decent LBS would have spotted this and told you about it?

2 pieces of wood and a hammer. If only you'd listened to me in the first place

2 pieces of wood and a hammer. If only you'd listened to me in the first place

I did mine last week with a C-clamp from Homebase, worked really well.

I'm fitting another one today but need to get the old headset cups out, what would you recommend for that in the absence of the correct tools?

"Recommend" isn't really the right word, but I can tell you what I used. I just tapped it out with a socket bar extension and a hammer, little taps. Someone else suggested using the inner bit of an axle stand. The principle's the same - stick something long into the head tube so it rests on the lip of the cup, tap it, move to the opposite side of of the cup, tap again. Repeat a little at a time till it's out

As above but with a round metal tube, 25mm metal conduit.
I have a length of threaded rod with a couple of big/thick washers and a couple of nuts.