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[Closed] Increasing reach - by reducing fork pressure?!?!

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Maybe I'm going crazy, or I'm misreading this - but from a review I've just come across:

Because of the super-slack head angle thereโ€™s no need to run the 150mm RockShox Yari fork overly firm, and with the recommended 25 per cent sag, the frame pitches forward more than normal, which in turn increases the reach measurement.

Can anyone explain this? Surely fork pressure has zero impact on reach?


 
Posted : 06/11/2017 5:16 pm
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Well I can't see how a change in fork pressure can alter the length of a top tube either.


 
Posted : 06/11/2017 5:18 pm
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I can't think of a way to explain it without pictures but yes it will and reach isn't top tube length.


 
Posted : 06/11/2017 5:20 pm
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Just found this handy thread with pictures

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/suspension-and-effect-on-reach


 
Posted : 06/11/2017 5:26 pm
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Told you I needed pictures


 
Posted : 07/11/2017 8:13 am
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Who is responsible for the review? They need berating for coming out with that!


 
Posted : 07/11/2017 8:29 am
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Who is responsible for the review? They need berating for coming out with that!

For speaking the truth?

Since I put a Works -2 deg headset on my bike I've taken to running the fork a bit softer than before. Why? Because without the angleset I liked the extra slackness from having more shock than fork sag. Now it's so slack already I don't need to do that - and with more fork sag the bike feels longer when I stand up.


 
Posted : 07/11/2017 8:45 am
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Just found this handy thread with pictures

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/suspension-and-effect-on-reach

That has to be the most frustrating thread I've ever read on STW and that really is saying something.


 
Posted : 07/11/2017 8:49 am
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That has to be the most frustrating thread I've ever read on STW and that really is saying something.

Mm. It's like the one about stopping a fixie without a front brake.

"Here's some maths and physics."
"Yeah but no but maths and physics are wrong and I'm right."
"No, you're just refusing to consider the possibility that you're wrong."
"Yeah but I'm right."
*sigh*


 
Posted : 07/11/2017 10:12 am
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It's not as if that sort of argument is confined to here though. Without these sorts of discussions most forums (and pubs etc) would be like the internet without porn or kittens, no less functional but largely empty.


 
Posted : 07/11/2017 10:26 am
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Oh, for sure. The general "facts/yeah but opinion" interaction model is pretty rife ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 07/11/2017 10:35 am
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I'm nearly already confused but yes the reach will increase........but then that's nothing new it's always been that way.

Does it matter, will you notice, I very much doubt it.

Maybe on a HT but on a FS.....I mean, ooo my arms extended a few mm, my arse moved, my legs bend, ankles bend, cranks move, the ground is rocky....and so on. It would have to be a very big change to matter.


 
Posted : 07/11/2017 10:41 am
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would the lower pressure be to assist with weighting the front on a slacker bike? this may be a silly question i know!


 
Posted : 07/11/2017 11:18 am
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Shirley running more sag is like slamming your stem or putting on flat(ter) baahs?


 
Posted : 07/11/2017 12:48 pm